Same thing is happening as when we killed Osama...

jeremym · October 20, 2011 1:08AM

Now that the Lybian dictator's life has been ended, the same thing is happening to PMs as when we killed Osama.

Anyone care to chime in on what they think will happen? Is this short-term? Long-term?

derryb · October 20, 2011 1:26AM

unrelated. Note that "we" didn't kill him, his own people did (with our support of course).

<< Is this short-term? Long-term? >>

Death of foreign leaders who do not play ball with Washington is long term.

gsa1fan · October 20, 2011 2:05AM

cjmezz · October 20, 2011 2:49AM

Osama's dead???

mariner67 · October 20, 2011 3:08AM

Strong dollar = weak/lower commadities

cladking · October 20, 2011 3:37AM

The world is a better place with sadam and Bin Laden dead.

I'm not so confident it's richer with Qadaffi dead. I'm not confident it's better for Libya.

jeremym · October 20, 2011 3:45AM

<< unrelated. Note that "we" didn't kill him, his own people did (with our support of course).

<< Is this short-term? Long-term? >>

Death of foreign leaders who do not play ball with Washington is long term. >>

I beg to differ. How are they unrelated? No matter WHO killed them...we were still involved in both instances. Granted, "we" killed Osama directly. However, "we" were also directly targeted by him. "We" weren't directly targeted by Libyans past "leader" so it makes sense that "we" didn't kill him.

Still highly involved, though.

mhammerman · October 20, 2011 4:21AM

This sets a dangerous precident. There are courts to resolve these issues and that's the whole idea behind having courts, to limit barbarian behavior and place these issues within a court of law for civilized disposition of the situation. It invites the same behavior in return; not a good idea.

Not sure there is much correlation with physical gold.

gsa1fan · October 20, 2011 4:23AM

<< The world is a better place with sadam and Bin Laden dead.

I'm not so confident it's richer with Qadaffi dead. I'm not confident it's better for Libya. >>

That was one EVIL SOB! Nothing but smiles from me now that trash is DEAD! Next that Iran nut case

greatnortherncoin · October 20, 2011 7:42AM

oooooooh my

cladking · October 20, 2011 8:10AM

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<< The world is a better place with sadam and Bin Laden dead.

I'm not so confident it's richer with Qadaffi dead. I'm not confident it's better for Libya. >>

That was one EVIL SOB! Nothing but smiles from me now that trash is DEAD! Next that Iran nut case

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I have no warm feelings for Iran's leader either. But I don't think he's
done anything that warrants someone killing him in my name. It's one
thing to kill enemy combatants (sadam or Bin Laden) who call themselves
leaders of state (mass murderers) or terrorists. It's quite another to be
killing those who are enemies to the US. The former makes us victorious
and is fully justified but the latter brings us down to the level of our ene-
mies.

piecesofme · October 20, 2011 8:25AM

geez...I was happy when W couldn't run for another term after what he did to "us" in 8 years. I guess I'm just easier to please than some others.

Some need blood I guess, I was happy just with Democracy.

jeremym · October 20, 2011 8:40AM

I think we're getting off topic here. I was trying to pose the question, spark the thought and evoke the idea that the news of Gaddafi's death somehow impacted PMs. I was NOT trying to spark a political discussion.

gsa1fan · October 20, 2011 9:00AM

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<< The world is a better place with sadam and Bin Laden dead.

I'm not so confident it's richer with Qadaffi dead. I'm not confident it's better for Libya. >>

That was one EVIL SOB! Nothing but smiles from me now that trash is DEAD! Next that Iran nut case

>>

I have no warm feelings for Iran's leader either. But I don't think he's
done anything that warrants someone killing him in my name. It's one
thing to kill enemy combatants (sadam or Bin Laden) who call themselves
leaders of state (mass murderers) or terrorists. It's quite another to be
killing those who are enemies to the US. The former makes us victorious
and is fully justified but the latter brings us down to the level of our ene-
mies. >>

Damn, watch the evening news! He ordered all kinds of terror on Americans & his people! Lockerbie Scotland ring a bell? I suppose some folks don't remember when Iran took Americans hostage? No love here for then anti American MF's!!!
Lockerbie

Baley · October 20, 2011 9:03AM

Can anyone name anything, any event at all, that's both good for "the United States" or "the American public in general" and also good for gold prices? or

Is good news bad for prices of precious metals?

cohodk · October 20, 2011 9:18AM

As a Syracuse grad and a student there when the plane was bombed, im happy the Libyan people now have a chance to live their lives in freedom.

To answer the OP, his death has zero impact on PMs.

TexasNationals · October 20, 2011 9:21AM

Someone told me once being dead is long term, but I don't think they knew what they were talking about.

Darin · October 20, 2011 9:54AM

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<< The world is a better place with sadam and Bin Laden dead.

I'm not so confident it's richer with Qadaffi dead. I'm not confident it's better for Libya. >>

That was one EVIL SOB! Nothing but smiles from me now that trash is DEAD! Next that Iran nut case

>>

I have no warm feelings for Iran's leader either. But I don't think he's
done anything that warrants someone killing him in my name. It's one
thing to kill enemy combatants (sadam or Bin Laden) who call themselves
leaders of state (mass murderers) or terrorists. It's quite another to be
killing those who are enemies to the US. The former makes us victorious
and is fully justified but the latter brings us down to the level of our ene-
mies. >>

Damn, watch the evening news! He ordered all kinds of terror on Americans & his people! Lockerbie Scotland ring a bell? I suppose some folks don't remember when Iran took Americans hostage? No love here for then anti American MF's!!!
Lockerbie >>

Thanks for posting that. I can remember during the eighties it looked like there was a good chance we would be going to war against Libya. Memory is kind of fuzzy so I don't remember why we didn't or how the tensions were settled, but he should have been taken out long ago.

derryb · October 20, 2011 9:55AM

<< Can anyone name anything, any event at all, that's both good for "the United States" or "the American public in general" and also good for gold prices? >>

Returning our currency to a gold standard.

Justacommeman · October 20, 2011 10:27AM

<< As a Syracuse grad and a student there when the plane was bombed, im happy the Libyan people now have a chance to live their lives in freedom.

To answer the OP, his death has zero impact on PMs. >>

less then zero..........MJ

pmcollectour · October 20, 2011 7:17PM

Imagine if we did this to one of our own presidents here in the United States ?
Imagine if we searched down Bush, or Obama, captured him, and treated him with such human indecency ?

Imagine if our president did things that this crazed man did ?

We really have to be thankful that we live in a civilized society. Thank God for our founding fathers, and thank God
for our way of life.

What we see happening over there is simply animalistic.

jeremym · October 21, 2011 1:24AM

<< As a Syracuse grad and a student there when the plane was bombed, im happy the Libyan people now have a chance to live their lives in freedom.

To answer the OP, his death has zero impact on PMs. >>

Syracuse, NY? That's my hometown.

mrearlygold · October 21, 2011 1:26AM

Are you kidding? If OUR drone didn't stop that guy from fleeing that mob wouldn't have happened. That's what WE support. This is civilized? The president of the united states with no authorization from Congress spent billions of dollars without congressional approval to drop bombs on a foreign country killing hundreds-thousands of innocent people who had nothing to do with any of this and somebody somewhere is going to lose there home becuase of the destruction to the dollar this crap does and some who don't pay the taxes to support this type of un-constitutional unauthorized military action to kill a guy and support al queda. This is something to be thank ful for?

The founding fathers? As close as you'll ever see one is running for president right now and you see how he's being treated and how ignorant people are?

P.S. here's a video from a former CIA about the realities of Libya

9/11 Whistleblower Susan Lindauer: 'Libyan Opposition Is Al-Qaeda'

cohodk · October 21, 2011 1:42AM

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<< As a Syracuse grad and a student there when the plane was bombed, im happy the Libyan people now have a chance to live their lives in freedom.

To answer the OP, his death has zero impact on PMs. >>

Syracuse, NY? That's my hometown. >>

You have my condolences.

jmski52 · October 21, 2011 3:22AM

This should have happened 20 years ago with a a few strategic strikes instead of an orchestrated "uprising", and that should have been the end of it. It might have made a difference in how the US is viewed around the Middle East, but instead - we gave them every reason to laugh at us for over 20 years. Same thing for Bin Laden. Same thing for Kolmeni. Let's review - they each declared war on us, and they each attacked us directly - and we dithered.

It's odd that the US is always declared to be wrong in how we fight wars, as if war should be "kinder and gentler" when the US conducts a war, but it can be "anything goes" without criticism of any kind when the enemy wants to go asymetrical. I call BS. Ignoring reality is a sure way to get kicked bad one day.

If someone declares war on you, you have to declare war on them and then win it decisively. And then tell them never to do it again. And if you make a mistake, you correct it and make it right as best you can. There's nothing subtle about it, and there's nothing to be gained from having a State Dept. that gives away concessions and money like candy to people who hate you.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · October 21, 2011 3:37AM

IMO his killing has no effect on PMs - but pleases me to no end.

cladking · October 21, 2011 7:19AM

<< Damn, watch the evening news! He ordered all kinds of terror on Americans & his people! Lockerbie Scotland ring a bell? I suppose some folks don't remember when Iran took Americans hostage? No love here for then anti American MF's!!!
Lockerbie >>

A terrorist is essentially an enemy combattant and is a legimate target even
as chief of state. But Qadaffi renounced terrorism many years ago. This means
there is no justification to consider him a target. Working against him as an unfriendly
might be justified but the American people are no longer briefed on specific matters of
state so I don't know what the basis or scope of the efforts against him might be just-
ified. But it definitely does not include murder.

I hope our involvement was limited to stopping the convoy.

gsa1fan · October 21, 2011 8:52AM

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<< Damn, watch the evening news! He ordered all kinds of terror on Americans & his people! Lockerbie Scotland ring a bell? I suppose some folks don't remember when Iran took Americans hostage? No love here for then anti American MF's!!!
Lockerbie >>

A terrorist is essentially an enemy combattant and is a legimate target even
as chief of state. But Qadaffi renounced terrorism many years ago. This means
there is no justification to consider him a target. Working against him as an unfriendly
might be justified but the American people are no longer briefed on specific matters of
state so I don't know what the basis or scope of the efforts against him might be just-
ified. But it definitely does not include murder.

I hope our involvement was limited to stopping the convoy. >>

Right!

I hear Charlie Manson denounced murder too! Why don't you go free him?

derryb · October 21, 2011 9:20AM

Maybe someone wanted his 144 tons of gold.

What is being overlooked by many was his announced intention to quit accepting US$ for oil and to begin accepting only gold for oil. Sadaam made the same fatal mistake. Strange how their appearance on the hit list coincided with their planned abolishment of pertrodollars.

cladking · October 21, 2011 9:35AM

<< 
Right!

I hear Charlie Manson denounced murder too! Why don't you go free him? >>

Manson wasn't at war with Sharon Tate.

Terrorism is either war or it doesn't justify assassination. You can't have it both ways.

It is barbaric to assassinate foreign leaders if you aren't at war.

gsa1fan · October 21, 2011 9:38AM

Well the MF is a dead ASS & I be HAPPY!

cladking · October 21, 2011 10:41AM

<< Well the MF is a dead ASS & I be HAPPY! >>

This is likely reason to celebrate.

jeremym · October 22, 2011 12:37AM

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<< As a Syracuse grad and a student there when the plane was bombed, im happy the Libyan people now have a chance to live their lives in freedom.

To answer the OP, his death has zero impact on PMs. >>

Syracuse, NY? That's my hometown. >>

You have my condolences.

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Oh, I moved long ago. At least I didn't choose it.

ricko · October 22, 2011 4:34AM

The death of Libya's dictator pleases me, mainly because he was an enemy of the U.S. (although he claimed otherwise, Lockerbie was his and no doubt other efforts as well). I am concerned about what may replace him... and all the 'new' administrations as a result of 'Arab spring'....I believe we may see much worse. Cheers, RickO

TwoSides2aCoin · October 22, 2011 1:40PM

How many people die every minute ? The market has it's own heartbeat.

TexasNationals · October 22, 2011 2:10PM

As Ricko stated, his death whether "legal" or not pleases me to no end, but what grows from the seed sometimes turns out to be far worse than the tree you cut down to plant the seed. I see a very violent and difficult ME/USA future/relations.

You can't hide your actions behind a paveway and history rarely forgets.

johnny9434 · October 23, 2011 5:25AM

what goes around comes around. lets be careful out there

Same thing is happening as when we killed Osama...

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