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Do you have any coins which cause you to stop and think about their history?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,203 ✭✭✭✭✭
A few coins in my collection come to mind:

1. 1794 Pole Cent in PO-2 to AG-3 condition - holding it in my hand takes me back to the early days of the US Mint in Philly and make me wonder if anyone famous [ Ben Franklin, George Washington, etc.] held this coin in their hand;

2. 1798/7 Cent in PO-2 to AG-3 condition - ditto #1;

3. 1890 CC Morgan in VG-10 condition that my aunt from Iowa found laying on the street in Denver in the 1950's that I inherited - wonder how it travelled from CC to Denver over 60+ years and how it ended up on the street; and

4. 1944 Walker in Fine 15 condition that I received from my business bank teller tray a few years ago, it has a hole in it and some engraving (Hawaii) along the leg of liberty - wonder if it was holed and engraved by a serviceman in WWII in Hawaii and then kept over the years back home on the mainland after the war was over; and wonder how it ended up at my business bank.

How about you?

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    Every one of my half dimes makes me think about their history. It is one of the most intriguing facets of this hobby, and the very reason I am attracted to the hobby in the first place.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found a decent (VF30) 1861 seated quarter in a roll of junk silver about a year ago. It's nothing special, but it's still the oldest coin in my collection. I wonder where it was during the civil war and how it hid out all of these years. There's plenty of modern junk that's seen more wear and abuse than this piece.
  • I essentially buy coins because of their history.
    Love thinking about the history of the Feuchtwanger cent I just got.
    Also, found an Indian head cent in my change the other day...couldn't help but think if it has been in circulation for the past 115 years...
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I try to sell them before we have a history.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,608 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have any coins which cause you to stop and think about their history? >>



    Ha. DOZENS of 'em.

    Take this, for example. This emperor ruled for about three months in 69 AD, the tumultuous "Year of Four Emperors" that resulted from the civil war after Nero's death. Not too many of these around, probably. Oh, sure, there are some, but I'll bet this is rarer than your typical 1909-S VDB cent or 1916-D Mercury dime.

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chopmarked Trade $'s make me wonder about their history.
    Trade $'s
  • tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    One of my favorite coins/tokens in my collection.
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I am often moved to stop and think about where my pocket change has been. I look at the date and think about what my life was like at the time the coin was minted. If the coin predates me I think about older people I know what their lives may have been like. Each coin feels like a little view back in time.
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes! That's why I collect them.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Do you have any coins which cause you to stop and think about their history? >>



    Ha. DOZENS of 'em.

    Take this, for example. This emperor ruled for about three months in 69 AD, the tumultuous "Year of Four Emperors" that resulted from the civil war after Nero's death. Not too many of these around, probably. Oh, sure, there are some, but I'll bet this is rarer than your typical 1909-S VDB cent or 1916-D Mercury dime.

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    Darn you LM, I WANT that! Very historic!
    That one and a Titus from 79
  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭
    A lot of rare variety colonials that come out of the woodwork always Mae me stop and think about their history. A lot of times these were found and tucked in an unsuspecting drawer for a hundred years and then finally come to market. Who used this coin in the 1790s? Who was the first colonial era person to receive this coin in Mint State condition? I always wonder what would/could of happened to that coin had it stayed in circulation.

    When I viewed the Brasher Doubloons at Heritage some years ago, I couldn't help but think what famous person(s) had the doubloon in their pocket in 1787!
    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • I always consider my cherry picks so precious.
    I just wonder how they were missed for so long.

    Anyways my favorite is a 1883 cc in g4, I received it in change last year after the giants won the world series.
    Of all nights and all places.
  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    This one is loaded with stories:

    1814 O.106a
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    So is this one. I sorta wish it didn't have quite so many stories, though...
    1830 O.114
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,608 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Darn you LM, I WANT that! Very historic!
    That one and a Titus from 79 >>



    You'll like my latest newp, then. image

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    But it's a year off from the date you want. I guess you want 79 AD because of Vesuvius, eh? Well, in 80 AD I think Titus dedicated the Colosseum. Historic enough, right?



    << <i>Titus Denarius, 80 AD, Rome.
    Obv: IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M, laureate head right.
    Rev: TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P, ornamented semicircular diadem(?) on draped seat or table.
    16-17 mm, 3.11 g
    RIC II, 124 (new), RIC II, 24 b (old)

    Fine, toned. >>



    Oh, and speaking of scarce, short-lived emperors from 69 AD, this one's comin' in the same package:



    << <i>Vitellius Denarius, 69 AD, Rome.
    Obv: A VITELLIVS GERM IMP AVG TR P, laureate head right.
    Rev: LIBERTAS RESTITVTA, Libertas, draped, standing facing, head right, holding pileus and long rod.
    16-19 mm, 3.05
    RIC I, 105 (R)

    Good fine, rare. >>


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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Quite a few. That's what makes the hobby fun.


  • << <i>One of my favorite coins/tokens in my collection.
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    That looks like a proof to me and I would check here if I was you
    • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
      Almost everyone of them.
    • this one has been around the block
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    • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Struck 44 BC, within a month or two of the infamous (and VERY historical) "Ides of March".

      Et tu, Brute?

      Yeah, OK, so it ain't the prettiest example, but it's a lifetime issue, with Caesar's own portrait, not a generic deity. All the more desirable for that.

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      And here's the "Tribute Penny" mentioned in the Bible.

      Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's... (but not until LordM hath rendered it unto NGC for encapsulation.)

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    • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
      most of the early american coinage and some federal stuff and what we went thru to get this country started.
    • All my 19th century coins have made me wonder about their history. My 1798 dollar is the oldest I have, and it's caused me to think about the time when it was made. My 5X great-grandparents, he from Ireland, she from Scotland, had immigrated and started farming about 20 miles from where I live now, in the mid 1780's. He worked new soil by himself, they fought off Indian raids, it was quite a rough life and there was no extra money to be had. I wonder if by 1798 he may have had a dollar like this in his pocket, and what he could've bought with it. George Washington died in 1799 - could he have held it?

      LM, to go back in time to your coins... it's fun to let the mind drift. I don't own one from that time, but bought my grandson a coin from the early 1600's - when he gets older, he and I shall dream together! I hope it gives him a boost with history and he likes it better than I did as a kid!
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    • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


      << <i>Quite a few. That's what makes the hobby fun. >>


      Agree, and that is why I tend to collect coins from pre-1870.
    • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
      My list starts with this one:

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      When in doubt, don't.
    • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Most any early U.S. coin (1792 - 1897) will have some history connected with them. The two leading pieces in my collection have a long history.

      The first is a medal, not a coin. The Libertas Americana medal was Benjamin Franklin’s pet project after the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 that ended the American Revolutionary War. Franklin conceived of the design, had it sketched by French artist, Esprit-Antoine Gibelin, commissioned his good friend, Augustin Dupre to cut the dies and paid have the medals struck in copper, silver and gold. Franklin personally distributed all or most them. This was as close as you will ever get to a medal that commemorates American independence.

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      The second piece is the 1792 half disme. This piece has a significant claim to the title, “first U.S. coin.” It was stuck under the standards provided by the Coinage Act of 1792, but it was not made at the first U.S. mint, which was not open at the time of its coinage. The entire mintage of 1,500 pieces was executed in the cellar of artisan, John Harper. Secretary of state, Thomas Jefferson, who had the cabinet level responsibility for coinage, noted that he received these coins on July 13, 1792. They were probably stuck under his supervision because no mint officials with the proper bonding authority were available.

      There are disputes as to weather or not George Washington supplied the silver. Washington did refer to them as, “a small beginning in the coinage of half dismes,” in his annual address to Congress on November 6, 1793. There are also stories that Jefferson and Washington may have handed out some these coins personally.

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    • Yes. All of my early Large Cents, and Colonial Coppers.

      I fantasize about who might have used these in the day of the birth of our nation! Could these have been used by George Washington? Jefferson, Franklin.....?

      The only 2 items that I own, that I know was from someone famous, is my early Pennsylvania Gazette newspaper, that was printed by Ben Franklin and has his name as the printer on the back page.

      The other is a precription and signature of Benjamin Rush, a Colonial doctor, and a signer of the Declaration of Independence.


      ......I collect old stuff......
    • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Got a sweet 1797 1c in VF that looks like hard chocolate. I keep it raw and like to hold it and dwell on the goings on in the fledgling U.S. Washington, Adams, and Jefferson could each have handled this coin as I do today.

      Also a really nice 1812 cent in AU that reminds me of America's "Second War for Independence"

      I like my 1841 proof cent. Not so much for its historical significance, but the fact that a mere 25 pieces were coined makes me feel close to numismatists of the day.

      Finally, my finest known CAM 1860 and and DCAM 1864 proof cents which draw a neat bracket around the Civil War, and always surprise me when I contemplate their incredible state of preservation over the past century and a half.
    • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,203 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Great replies and pictures so far.

      This thread is turning out to be very enjoyable. Hopefully is will have some legs.image
    • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
      Napoleon issued a decree on November 18, 1810. It basically said that the importation of British goods into France would be punishable by death.
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      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



      - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
    • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Who had this one? It was well worn/used, but not to the point of being worn smooth.
      It had a lot of value in those days, and there weren't millions of people in the US then.....so, did it get used by our 1st President at some point? Dan'l Boone? image

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    • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


      << <i>Who had this one? It was well worn/used, but not to the point of being worn smooth.
      It had a lot of value in those days, and there weren't millions of people in the US then.....so, did it get used by our 1st President at some point? Dan'l Boone? image

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      Actually from a sharpness perspective that coin is quite nice. The surfaces are little porous which keeps the piece from hitting a home run.

      As for the value of a half cent, even back then, the half cent had a certain stigma about it because many people viewed it as a “poor man’s coin.” Alexander Hamilton saw it as a way for those of meager means to stretch their limited resources. Shopkeepers didn’t like them because they felt that the coin cut into their profits.

      All of these factors kept these lovely little coins from enjoying regular production. Those holes in the series have discouraged more than few collectors from getting involved with these coins.
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    • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
      Reading last week about a financial collapse in 1893 and the subsequent recession, led me instantly to thoughts of my 1893-s barber half. Thought about how much that half buck would purchase and how it escaped commerce in XF.
      We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
    • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
      I find this piece very interesting. HOW did this get so worn?


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    • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


      << <i>I find this piece very interesting. HOW did this get so worn?


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      It was someone's LONG TIME pocket piece. It takes a lot of rubbing to get a copper-nickel piece down to that grade.
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    • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
      my pet theory is that they were confused with old bust dimes after awhile and circulated well into the late 1800s as dimes.
    • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


      << <i>my pet theory is that they were confused with old bust dimes after awhile and circulated well into the late 1800s as dimes. >>



      Maybe so, but even if that theory is correct, there's no way it could have gotten worn to that level in normal circulation. That piece was proably in somebody's pocket in the 1950s or later.
      Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
    • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
      My 1915 gold $5 peice. I bought it 'cause that's what the daily wage was for a Ford auto worker back then. (BIG money)
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    • Anything with an 18xx date or earlier. Since I'm younger than most here, I am in awe that I can hold a coin over 100 years old in my hand. Just thinking about how many people have touched the coin gets piques my interest.
    • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
      you keep that mindset there young feller and you will enjoy the heck out of this hobby.

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