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Help with a colonial

As was another member, I am really interested in getting a 1791 washington cent.
This is one I found recently. Wondering what those of you who are familiar with colonials thought of this one. I really don't want to get an ungraded one since I have no means of sending it in, but it is a reasonable price and I'd like to get a lower grade one (possibly) to hold me off until I can get a nice one. Thanks!


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  • That sucker was badly cleaned and crappily retoned, or attempted will Dellar's.
  • Ya, I'm new to all this cleaning and fake toning business...that's why I ask about all these image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It has EF sharpness, but it's got a minor rim bump and the surfaces show corrosion. It’s probably been worked on to smooth out the surfaces and recolored. The spots remain.

    I’m not active in the market for these things to know what this is worth, but it’s not a nice coin, and the grade on the holder is much too high. The net grade would be in the Fine area.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭
    Doesn't look cleaned and recolored to me- just dark and lightly burnished (esp. on the obverse) in an attempt to minimize the surface oxidation/corrosion. Has some nasty rim issues as well.

    I would highly recommend just waiting until the right piece comes along. You will probably not be fully satisfied with a problem piece and it will be a money loser when the time comes to sell. When you do find that right piece you'll know it, and it will be that much more satisfying to purchase.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears to me that someone removed verdigris on the right side of the reverse, I can still see some green, I think. I would pass.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One thing to keep in mind. This IS NOT a Chain Cent. There is no reason to put with problems in order to acqaire one of these.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Ya, I agree. I definitely wouldnt be happy with anything like this. I think seeing the steep price these go for in high grades is scaring me a little, but I know it will be worth it when the right one comes along
    zackbaldwin.com
  • I guess my question would be... does the price tag for this piece correspond to an XF no problem whatsoever 1791 Washington cent? In other words, is the issue...that you want a real decent piece that you can afford? (In which case, maybe the PRICE--if not the stated grade-- is a winner). Or.. is it that you want to wait for a flawless piece because you'll pay the asking price for one, expensive or not?

    Of course these are questions that you yourself, and not anyone else here, can answer for you.



  • << <i>That sucker was badly cleaned and crappily retoned, or attempted will Dellar's. >>



    I am not seeing that at all.

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