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What do you make of this $20G?

lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Opinions? It's not mine and I'm not interested in buying it. It looks suspicious to me. Is that putty?

It's in an old PCGS holder, FWIW, and being offered for sale.
Lance.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not the putty expert here, but I'd say YES.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of scratches and hits is all I see and a spot in the left field. It's in a PCGS holder so it's OK.

    What grade is it?
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a 60, Jon. Does the lighter color, smooth surface concern you?
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  • TheCoinGeezerTheCoinGeezer Posts: 408
    Me not likey. There's something that doesn't appear quite kosher about the coin, at least in that picture.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, but I don't know Gold and trust PCGS. I would not buy Gold raw or in another holder other than PCGS.

    It looked like a low grade unc to me...so 60 sounds right to me. The coin doesn't do much for me, but I would think it's real and OK being in a PCGS holder.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No, but I don't know Gold and trust PCGS. I would not buy Gold raw or in another holder other than PCGS.

    It looked like a low grade unc to me...so 60 sounds right to me. The coin doesn't do much for me, but I would think it's real and OK being in a PCGS holder. >>


    I think there was a thread a while ago that was talking about how there are a lot of puttied gold coins in PCGS holders.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look fine to me. The recessed areas are protected and retain their original mint frost and luster while the higher areas are unprotected and have lost their frost/luster due to rubbing and scuffing from handling. Hence, the MS60 grade.

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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I don't see putty but I do see wear. It is grade market UNC no doubt
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No, but I don't know Gold and trust PCGS. I would not buy Gold raw or in another holder other than PCGS.

    It looked like a low grade unc to me...so 60 sounds right to me. The coin doesn't do much for me, but I would think it's real and OK being in a PCGS holder. >>


    I think there was a thread a while ago that was talking about how there are a lot of puttied gold coins in PCGS holders. >>



    You mean this one? image

    It looks like a 60/61 coin to me. I do not see any evidence of putty in the photo, but that does not mean that it is not there.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think a coin with this much wear would be a good candidate for a putty job which is usually performed on higher graded coins to hide hairline scratches.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Look fine to me. The recessed areas are protected and retain their original mint frost and luster while the higher areas are unprotected and have lost their frost/luster due to rubbing and scuffing from handling. Hence, the MS60 grade. >>



    I agree totally. Just a typical well scuffed up unc $20 Lib. And at this price level there's no reason to go for the putty can as there is no real price advantage to a 61 or 62.
    And you would need a gallon of putty to make this into a 64. Would say it has orig surfaces as well.

    roadrunner
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think this coin got hit with the ugly stick, but that stick didn't have any putty on it.
    As for blind trust in an opinion....oh well.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice copper spot and not much of a premium for that one.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>I can't believe you made the above statement.....the last sentence to be exact. So now TPG's can't make mistakes correct, because that is what you are saying, and all this time I really thought you had a mind of your own.<<<

    Alan, I don't see anything wrong in my statement at all. I do trust PCGS and said like most others that it's OK. It's not a coin I would buy unless it was a really hard to find dime and/or dime variety. Too scuffy and I don't like the carbon spot. But the coin is what it is!image
  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see a coppery luster below the contact surfaces.
    Looks 60-62image
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    I dont see any putty. Putty would cover up all of those blemishes. If someone actually did putty the coin, they did a lousy job!
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  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭
    Original MS61 or so from the image (But AU under the old ANA technical grading standards)
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not see evidence of putty in the picture.... In hand, there are ways to detect putty... Cheers, RickO
  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    That coin is not MS! image
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Why would you even consider a coin you thought has problems?? DO NOT buy it. Wait for one you like.
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003

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