Raw Morgan Reverse toner purchase...pics and price inside...ALL opinions please! :)

uofa1285

Raw Morgan Reverse toner purchase...$105.00...ALL opinions please!






Thanks!

Doug

magikbilly

at

tightbudget

Doesn't look right

kryptonitecomics

I don't have a good feeling about this one and the picture sucks so it's really a crap shoot but the obverse looks circulated and the reverse looks suspect but I can't say for sure it's AT based on the picture.

kerikow

pics arent the best, but looks ok to me

Frankcoins

Don't expect to get it in a no-problem slab.

Twinturbo

Appears to be AU
Doesnt appear to be market acceptable toning, if it gets slabbed your in luck
In addition i was taught blues and purples dont appear togther typically, like a tell tale sign of AT? could be wrong on that one, would need better pics to tell.

uofa1285

Interesting...lots of gun shy opinions on my raw toneage. haha. I guarantee pcgs ms-63 first time submission. In fact, I would bet on it...any takers? Nothing big...maybe a donation to the YN program? It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

))

TorinoCobra71

<< <i>Interesting...lots of gun shy opinions on my raw toneage. haha. I guarantee pcgs ms-63 first time submission. In fact, I would bet on it...any takers? Nothing big...maybe a donation to the YN program? It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

)) >>



Coin APPEARS to be UNC. I just never understand why people pay premiums for toning.......

Good Luck on getting it into a PCGS problem free slab.

Manorcourtman

Looks AT. Raw eBay purchase?

golfer72

Coin APPEARS to be UNC. I just never understand why people pay premiums for toning....... Perhaps because toners are nicer and more interesting than plain ole blast white coins?

HMMMMM;

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>

<< <i>Interesting...lots of gun shy opinions on my raw toneage. haha. I guarantee pcgs ms-63 first time submission. In fact, I would bet on it...any takers? Nothing big...maybe a donation to the YN program? It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

)) >>



Coin APPEARS to be UNC. I just never understand why people pay premiums for toning.......

Good Luck on getting it into a PCGS problem free slab. >>



Eye appeal man; it's all about eye appeal. A really nice toner has eye appeal that goes through the roof.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Interesting...lots of gun shy opinions on my raw toneage. haha. I guarantee pcgs ms-63 first time submission. In fact, I would bet on it...any takers? Nothing big...maybe a donation to the YN program? It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

)) >>



The first thing that should have tipped you off is the date. The year 1890 is not known as a date flush with nice toners. A 63 with legit toning like that should have brought a lot more than you paid. Just sayin.

cheezhed

Impossible to provide an opinion based on those photos.

JJM

looks AT to me...............

JJM

I would bet on it...any takers?


im game, i say it will not holder pcgs ms63.........
side bet,.....Genuine

HighRelief

Hard to determine anything from your pictures, sorry.

TorinoCobra71

<< <i>Coin APPEARS to be UNC. I just never understand why people pay premiums for toning....... Perhaps because toners are nicer and more interesting than plain ole blast white coins?

HMMMMM; >>



Its a matter or PERSPECTIVE. Some people like Toners. Some like Blast White. I like both, I just understand why toners command such premiums.

dragon

<<< The first thing that should have tipped you off is the date. The year 1890 is not known as a date flush with nice toners. >>>








BAJJERFAN is correct. Here's my modest 1890-P in 64 with some color on it.

al410

I would guess AT, reminds me of the colors on this ebay sellers coins> cwbyup1051 <
Just my opinion

AL

KeyLargoRareCoins

<< <i>Interesting...lots of gun shy opinions on my raw toneage. haha. I guarantee pcgs ms-63 first time submission. In fact, I would bet on it...any takers? Nothing big...maybe a donation to the YN program? It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

)) >>




I think you should take a good image before trying to teach anything. You cant judge anything from that picture, not color, not grade, just a plain shot in the dark. Its not suprising that you are getting the types of opinions so far.

TomB

From the images provided that coin doesn't look right at all.

TheCoinGeezer

Based on the somewhat unclear pictures provided, I'd say something doesn't look quite Kosher.
The reverse appears to be AT but I'm no expert.
Just my 2¢

7Jaguars

Yikes, AT to me but some on these boards will "NT" anything.
Also, although admittedly not the best image, I have 62s that look a whole lot less bagged/abraded...

magikbilly

Tel us more bout the Rainbow Liberty Head VC and others you have sold. Neat purple. I sill don't understand how you thought this looked good even from these horrid pics is looks AU, altered and AT.

Eric

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Yikes, AT to me but some on these boards will "NT" anything.
Also, although admittedly not the best image, I have 62s that look a whole lot less bagged/abraded... >>



The 1890 is generally known to afford a lot of baggy looking coins and as such there is a BIG price jump from 64 to 65

crypto79

I will take all the "PCGS grades first try" action being given out on that coin.

KeyLargoRareCoins

Here is an 1890 that will knock your socks off The best 1890 I have ever seen to date.

BAJJERFAN

<<Hi Doug,

I will take you up on your "guarantee" and "bet". I will bet the coin either doesn&#146;t receive a numerical grade, or if it does, grades less than MS63, the first time. It looks AT (and quite possibly less than MS63) to me. So I have two ways to win. And the loser donates $100 to the ANA's YN program. Are you willing to back up your braggadocio?

Sincerely,
Mark Feld>>

Justlooking

Looks 63 to me. And Shake 'n' Baked.

Twinturbo

I'll take you up on the little side bet as well, I'll do a giveaway to a YN on the board for a VG Morgan 1896

Myqqy

Count me in on the "it doesn't look right" group. It doesn't look right from what the pics are showing...

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uofa1285

Haha...thanks all! Thought I might get flamed a LOT worse than this! I appreciate your restraint from getting pesonal...back in "the day" (5 years or so ago), some guys would get torched for smart alec remarks like mine.

Anyway, I will have to take you all up on a Group bet then...My max is $100 to YN vs all the naysayers...you all can take the other side of it in pieces or even more. Either way, I win, as I love the hobby and want the YNs to have a little more budget money.

Let's have fun! I will send it in with my next Economy shipping with other horribly AT Morgans and such. lol.

Doug

silverpop

AT

TexasNationals

Someone clipped a coupon for $1.00 off any shake and bake!

Tiny

From the PICTURES I say the coin is AT and I wouldn't even want to try and assign a grade.
Get better pics and I might change my mind but I doubt it.




I missed this earlier from the OP's second post:

It appears I have lots to teach the forum toned coin newbies.

coinkid855

Not a fan at all. AT, AU.



-Paul

uofa1285

ok, AU experts...point out the rub for me?

TexasNationals

I didn't say AU, but I think it is, breast feathers and hair around ear.

TN

bestclser1

Sorry,AT.Chris,your 1890 is 3rd nicest color coin i have seen on one,but still alot for the grade.VERY tough date with nice color though.

uofa1285

Lloyd! No way! But, as fellow experts I will defer to agree to disagree with you out of my utmost respect for your toning knowledge and taste. Your friend, Doug

bestclser1

Let me know what it grades pal.

uofa1285

<< <i>Let me know what it grades pal. >>



I will, buddy.

Rampage

The coin look AU and AT to me. Though your pictures are not the best, the fields on the obverse make the coin look AU.

BillJones

The color on the reverse looks weird and unnatural. I know you didn’t buy the coin for the obverse, but the dab of color in Ms. Liberty’s ear looks AT to me.

magikbilly

Hi Bill,

that blue in the area of the ear bothered me too an the overall cleaning look.

Eric

KeyLargoRareCoins

<< <i>Sorry,AT.Chris,your 1890 is 3rd nicest color coin i have seen on one,but still alot for the grade.VERY tough date with nice color though. >>




Thanks Lloyd.

coindeuce

I'll go with banged up and boinked.

uofa1285

I just got it in hand from the mail today. The pics didn't do it justice. Definitely NT. The ear color is practically non existant and the obv is fully PL. The reverse is a perfect tone layer...not all applied or chemicaled up.

I raise my bet to $200 to the YN. Please add your name and promise to this thread? This is all in good fun, folks. No mean intentions.

Doug

AUandAG

If you got it in hand how about some accurate pics and then I'll take a guess. But, based on the pics
you posted I'd say AT and MS60/61 at best.
A couple of years ago I attended a class through PCGS at the Vegas show. Hour long or so and
the presenter (I don't remember who, shame on me) said that if the toning looks painted on it's AT.
This looks just like a paint brushed dollar.

bob