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Counterfeit-looking 1803 Draped Bust Dollar on eBay...What do you guys think?

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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I agree. Not the real deal!
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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This seller has a lot of listings on ebay- I have emailed him asking if he can guarantee authenticity and asked him how much it weighs. See how he responds.
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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine, but with light to moderate damage.
    Moonlight Mint
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Genuine, but with light to moderate damage. >>



    That was my reaction also. Altered surfaces and/or repair in left field and at rim.

    Tom

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin looks like a Bolender 6, and my guess is that it is genuine but damaged. The picture is taken at an angle, probably for a reason that will not benefit the bidders.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only thing that looks bad is that the seller doesn't want the coin back. This is made clear with "NO RETURNS". This is an auction. My only issue with it being an auction is that it's not one I'd like to start the bidding at $1800 for.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Danger,danger Will Robinson!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree that it's real but with significant problems. Coins in this price range are best not bought raw off eBay.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks bad to me...



    -Paul >>



    Probably genuine but I would not pay over $1000 due to problems.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I also believe that it is genuine; having never seen a counterfeit 1803 also adds to the probability that it is authentic.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

    eBaystore
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only way to know for sure it to by it to examine it closer.
    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just to go back to the "good old days" in numismatics, the first Bust dollar I ever owned was a 1799 that I purchased circa 1969. I paid $210 for it. It was a VF-EF that had been dipped white, which was customary for those coins at that time. In 1973 I sold it to a dealer for $525 which was a very strong buying price at the time. He said I liked it, and I’m guessing that he probably had a want list for it. Today the “buy it now” price is $1,844.44 including the shipping for a problem piece with F-VF sharpness. image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The only way to know for sure it to by it to examine it closer. >>



    no returns. that isint good image
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the reply I got when i emailed him:



    << <i>32 yrs experience, weighs 26.8 g, yes we guarantee it. >>



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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is the reply I got when i emailed him:



    << <i>32 yrs experience, weighs 26.8 g, yes we guarantee it. >>

    >>



    I assume it's likely legit then. It really just looks odd from the photos. That's why I posted this particular coin...I could see it going either way.



    -Paul
    NGC 2.1 Census! PM me yours!
  • TwinturboTwinturbo Posts: 493
    Its been removed
    However appeared rough and improperly repaired.

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