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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Im not a fan of the coin, but I will go with a random ms-63
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hard to tell from the image.

    MS64 if the luster is there.
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I really like it (although from the images it looks overdipped with re-toning)! image
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice sharp strike, guessing it looks better than the images provided. I don't see any rub or marks, but it's hard to gage the
    luster. I'll also go with MS63.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I won't say because I admired that coin on the NAI website for awhile. Glad to see it went to a good home. Enjoy it!

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it as it is and would imagine a grade of 64 if not a gennie.
    Jim

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  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    AU-58 or MS-65, either way I love it
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the coin in an old NGC holder? If so, I saw the coin in Vegas and it was amazing. I know you'll be happy with the coin as the toning was beautifully original and the coin exhibited incredible luster.
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  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    It has its appeal, that's for sure. Really hard to tell from these photos about the surface/possible cleaning and retoning. I think it probably is the latter. The coin is hammered, that's for sure.
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is the coin in an old NGC holder? If so, I saw the coin in Vegas and it was amazing. I know you'll be happy with the coin as the toning was beautifully original and the coin exhibited incredible luster. >>

    image It also has a CAC sticker as well,and the reverse is semi-PL.image
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell much of the coins surface. What I can see is the coin is fully struck and hammered look at those stars. I think the grade must me ms64 or better depending on the luster and surface. I cant recall when I have seen a CBH with such a strike stunning coin imo.
  • JBatDavidLawrenceJBatDavidLawrence Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Is the coin in an old NGC holder? If so, I saw the coin in Vegas and it was amazing. I know you'll be happy with the coin as the toning was beautifully original and the coin exhibited incredible luster. >>

    image It also has a CAC sticker as well,and the reverse is semi-PL.image >>



    That's the coin! Lovely piece...
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Very nice! MS64 is my first throught.
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way to "guess" the grade from the images provided. Of course I could go look in the archives, but I'm sure nobody else didimage.
    Not the way I like to see Bust halves look, but I know you likes you culla. Probably a decent late date half, with secondary album toning IMO. From what I can see.
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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Graded NICE!image
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Numismatic Americana is one of the few dealers that deal with what is most important to me along with quality,and thats straight shooting,wonderful coins,and most important,EYE APPEAL.Many thanks to Bill and Christine for filling a hole in my toned type set i am building,and BTW,the deal worked for us both.Will post the grade tomorrow,and will send to Todd for imaging along with a few other NEWPS,along with the finest toned PR IHC i have ever had the pleasure of owning,from another for now,class act,who mshall remain nameless until i have an image that does the coin justice,along with Todds image of this beauty.image
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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    I was somewhat surprised by the grade and price, as well as the CAC approval. But it is PL, and very few if any small marks.

    But not the original toning I like. This coin did have a dip at one time and re-toned within market bounds.
    TahoeDale
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dipped or not, it has tons of eye appeal, boasts a fabulous strike, and judging by the photo, nearly mark-free surfaces. From what I see, it's a 65.
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    wow,imagine what she looked like all blast white back in 1826
    and it looks early die state
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a 64 or 65.
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    << <i>Numismatic Americana is one of the few dealers that deal with what is most important to me along with quality,and thats straight shooting,wonderful coins,and most important,EYE APPEAL.Many thanks to Bill and Christine for filling a hole in my toned type set i am building,and BTW,the deal worked for us both.Will post the grade tomorrow,and will send to Todd for imaging along with a few other NEWPS,along with the finest toned PR IHC i have ever had the pleasure of owning,from another for now,class act,who mshall remain nameless until i have an image that does the coin justice,along with Todds image of this beauty.image >>



    I recently made my first purchase from NA and was very happy with the experience and, of course, THE COIN. When I get around to it, I will post a photo, but suffice to say, it would have made my modest ANA display.

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can imagine there were coin albums or rolls of coins 185 years ago. How does something that old get like that? There must be at least 2 distinguishable types of toning on that one. How many ways could it have been stored over the years if not for it's original holder? A carved out piece of square wood and a box?

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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I recently made my first purchase from NA and was very happy with the experience and, of course, THE COIN. When I get around to it, I will post a photo, but suffice to say, it would have made my modest ANA display. >>



    Excellent. I look forward to reading the inevitable extremely critical reviews of your new piece here in the forum!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can imagine there were coin albums or rolls of coins 185 years ago. How does something that old get like that? There must be at least 2 distinguishable types of toning on that one. How many ways could it have been stored over the years if not for it's original holder? A carved out piece of square wood and a box? >>



    No coin rolls or albums existed 185 years ago... Coin cabinets for storing a collection did exist.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope the photo is extremely inaccurate otherwise I hope they have a strong return policy, sorry but it really does appear to be dipped and retoned ie not original imho. I really do hope i am completely incorrect with my comment. >>



    Do you feel all your lil CBHD's and CBD's are original as the day is long and aren't secondarily toned from album storage image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's better than one I've got which is over graded in the holder (One of my goofs), but something struck me as unoriginal about the general look and the toning. If there luster that is missing from the photo, it might just be problems with the photo.
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's better than one I've got which is over graded in the holder (One of my goofs), but something struck me as unoriginal about the general look and the toning. If there luster that is missing from the photo, it might just be problems with the photo. >>

    It is Billl.Tough coin to image,but Todd will get it right.image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    SOOOOOO, what's it grade image
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super pretty, but you might want to give that toning a quick wipe with your thumb. You know, just to be sure....image
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OH BABY!!! Very nice indeed!! You sure found yourself a true beauty!! I'm jealous!! Edited for the grade...I'll go 65 on this one....Superb....Joe
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  • CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    MS65-66? image That is one image lookin' CBH Lloyd! image
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    MS 64 CAC,should be a 64*+ ,IMHO
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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Excellent. I look forward to reading the inevitable extremely critical reviews of your new piece here in the forum! >>


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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    It looks like a portrait with clouds in the background. What amazing toning.image
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please post Todd's pix when available next to those in the OP. I'm sure he'll capture the surfaces much better. Congrats!
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Please post Todd's pix when available next to those in the OP. I'm sure he'll capture the surfaces much better. Congrats! >>

    Will do,and thanks!
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was somewhat surprised by the grade and price, as well as the CAC approval. But it is PL, and very few if any small marks.
    But not the original toning I like. This coin did have a dip at one time and re-toned within market bounds. >>



    I agree. In the photo provided has a sort of flat or matte look to it.

    But as a 64 CAC I think it's all within bounds. Knowing Lloyd's preferences for the highest graded coins available I just assumed this
    was a 66 or better. Personally, I'm not a fan of toned PL seated or bust coinage. And the reason is two fold. One is doesn't really
    bring any premium (ie not enough collectors of the series or type who care). Secondly, and most important, those PL or semi-PL
    surfaces can hide things, especially the quality of the surfaces. I find it much easier to assess a bust half that is fully lustrous.
    In other words following flow lines for me is far easier than trying to assess quality of mirrors under toning. Mirrors are so touchy
    under toning that they are tough to assess even out of the holder in a fully darkened room. And since PL coins have relatively less luster
    to start with, it's tougher to figure out when a bit more is missing...and sometimes toning can hide that.

    roadrunner


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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't wait to see Todd's images.

    With nice luster that David Lawerence coin (John) said it has in hand that coin will be mind blowingly gorgeous!
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can't wait to see Todd's images.

    With nice luster that David Lawerence coin (John) said it has in hand that coin will be mind blowingly gorgeous! >>

    Might just be that the luster gave it that clean almost mirrired look too.image
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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Exceptionally clean for a 64! Very pretty CBH bestclser...

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I recently made my first purchase from NA and was very happy with the experience and, of course, THE COIN. When I get around to it, I will post a photo, but suffice to say, it would have made my modest ANA display. >>



    Excellent. I look forward to reading the inevitable extremely critical reviews of your new piece here in the forum! >>




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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks very familiar to me.....image
    Libertys cheek has a small tick that I felt limited the grade, but the eye appeal in person is just as it appears in the picture.
    I didn't think the surfaces were totally original as the centers have no skin, they are pure white so perhaps dipped at one time, but still retoned amazing.
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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    image Without that tiny mark,the coin is gem +.Dr. Mike is correct,and seems to know the coin too.image
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  • littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭✭
    Once again, Lloyd, a true piece of numismatic art! And yes, Bill and Christine are great people to work with and talk too. They are professional, courteous, and willing to share their numismatic expertise with anyone. A real class act!


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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS 64 CAC,should be a 64*+ ,IMHO >>

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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first impression of the coin was: nice example!

    Congrat's!! image

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