Could you make some money on this item?

gecko109

1957 uncut sheet


At $2250, thats about $20/card.

If you carefully and professionaly cut this sheet up.....and sold the cards raw....it seems that they would easily sell for more than $20 each.

If you cut them and submitted them, how many 9s could be expected would you guess? Even common 9's have to be worth at least $125 apiece.

captainthreeputt

If I read the description in his text correctly, he states the condition is "Good". He also goes on to state holes, tears etc. etc. Rick Probstein is one of the most reputable sellers and frequents these boards. I would verify the description before you purchase it. I would hate to see you get disappointed on the quality, and if it is truly as I stated, I am sure Rick would not want you to be an unhappy customer.

Brian

handyman

That is a rare item. And I would love to have that on my wall! Very cool item!

gecko109

<< <i>If I read the description in his text correctly, he states the condition is "Good". He also goes on to state holes, tears etc. etc. Rick Probstein is one of the most reputable sellers and frequents these boards. I would verify the description before you purchase it. I would hate to see you get disappointed on the quality, and if it is truly as I stated, I am sure Rick would not want you to be an unhappy customer.

Brian >>





I read the description as being "good" overall....as evaluated by the whole piece. However, take any card you own in "good" condition.....then draw a grid on it with 110 tiny boxes. Now cut that "good" card into 110 equal pieces. Many of those pieces will be gem mint even though the card as a whole is simply a "good".

Does that make any sense? Im willing to wager there could be quite a few 9's and maybe a 10 or two if this sheet was carefully cut. Of course, there will be many cards that have creases as well.....but even those will have 4 razor sharp corners to compensate.

hhmag70

Sounds like a sure thing.

cwazzy

Just the thought of cutting up a piece like that makes me want to cry. Let's leave the cutting up of historic items to UD and Topps (ie: GU equipment). That's meant to stay in one piece and enjoyed as is, not cut up for profit.

captainthreeputt

I get your theory. You could be right. It does seem as most of the uncut sheet appears to be in nice shape. Once again, I would contact Rick.

Good luck, I would love to hear the outcome if you pull the trigger.

Brian

KbKards

You can't just cut up a sheet and send them in to a legitimate company for grading. It's like a card guy thinking he can buy circulated Morgans, then buff them up all nice and shiny and submit them to PCGS for grading. The cards would have to exhibit a cutting pattern consistent with the way original 1957's were cut.

theskypilot

cwazzy
at first i tend to agree with you keep it as is

But if you read the description it says top two rows have already been cut off.

So all you really have is a part of an uncut sheet.

cwazzy

<< <i>cwazzy
at first i tend to agree with you keep it as is

But if you read the description it says top two rows have already been cut off.

So all you really have is a part of an uncut sheet. >>



That may be the case. But it's still an item that should stay as is, IMHO. I understand that people like this hobby for different reasons. And that's fine. If making money is your main goal then that's your right. But something like that needs to be in the collection of someone who appreciates what it is for what it is and not how much it could be worth if cut up. Again, this is my opinion and I won't hate anyone for disagreeing with me. It would be more of a mild dislike.

frankhardy

I didn't think PSA would cut "sheet cut" cards? I think Beckett will. Not sure about SGC.

gecko109

If cut exactly to the size of regular cards, how does a grading company determine who cut them? Im not talking about letting my 4 year old cut the sheet with his safety scissors.

frankhardy

<< <i>If cut exactly to the size of regular cards, how does a grading company determine who cut them? Im not talking about letting my 4 year old cut the sheet with his safety scissors. >>



They can tell many times.

yankeeno7

Often times, sharpness of the cut and the color of the cardboard edge you can tell if its been recently cut.

fiveniner

Awesome Item.I have dealt with Probstien in the past and even consigned with him.Very Knowledgable,High Integrity.

cards651

<< <i>You can't just cut up a sheet and send them in to a legitimate company for grading. It's like a card guy thinking he can buy circulated Morgans, then buff them up all nice and shiny and submit them to PCGS for grading. The cards would have to exhibit a cutting pattern consistent with the way original 1957's were cut. >>



The voice of reason. Thank you KbKards.

mccardguy1

<< <i>If cut exactly to the size of regular cards, how does a grading company determine who cut them? Im not talking about letting my 4 year old cut the sheet with his safety scissors. >>



Why are you even considering buying this sheet and cutting them up? Are you jumping into something once again you have little to no knowledge of? (rare backs, ect.) PSA and SGC will not grade cards cut from this sheet as they will then be handcut cards. You will only get a authentic designation from them at best, ruining your hope of making any money on this sheet. This is something that needs to be framed and hung on a wall and not cut up and slabbed in 132 authentic PSA holders.

jasoneggert

And who knows how well the backs line up with the fronts. You could cut the fronts out t be perfectly centered, but that does not mean the backs will be centered too.

If you were to cut them out, I would find a commercial printing company and pay them to cut them out for you with a guillotine cutter.

-Jason

twiley

Beckett would grade them. I don't know if PSA or SGC would.

I have a feeling if you sent them to PSA even if they were perfectly cut to match the cuts made in 1957. PSA would give them EOT. The clean/fresh cuts on the old cardboard stock would be warning flags when they go over the cards with their black light. On the other hand Beckett will and does grade sheet cut cards. I bet you could make a good profit if they came back high grade from Beckett.

If I had the extra funds I would consider this opportunity myself.

KbKards

If you were to cut them out, I would find a commercial printing company and pay them to cut them out for you with a guillotine cutter.

The cards won't come out with cuts looking like the cards were cut in 1957. The process used to cut them originally was more like ripping a phone book in half rather than cutting your school pictures down to wallet size.