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Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve and Government Deficit Spending
Ron Paul from over 20 years ago on the federal reserve and deficit spending


Have people been asleep while this guys been available to us? Jeeez.

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  • Haven't you heard? He believes in the consititution so that makes him right wing......and "out there". I've polled people at my work that I feel are conservative and even they have been swayed by the media into believing that Ron Paul is "out there". Very disheartening for me. The media has such a hold on this I begin to lose hope some days.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Media is trying to narrow it down to the two candidates of their choice. They will be successful until a dark horse jumps in at the last minute. Unfortunately the dark horse will not be good for the economy which means he/she will be good for PMs.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm all in for ending the Fed, haven't the Rothchilds, Warburgs, Morgans, Lazzards
    and the rest of the global rapists made enough money?
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm all in for ending the Fed, haven't the Rothchilds, Warburgs, Morgans, Lazzards
    and the rest of the global rapists made enough money? >>


    in our eyes yes, in thiers no way


  • << <i>Haven't you heard? He believes in the consititution so that makes him right wing......and "out there". I've polled people at my work that I feel are conservative and even they have been swayed by the media into believing that Ron Paul is "out there". Very disheartening for me. The media has such a hold on this I begin to lose hope some days. >>



    Maybe that will change in 2012...

    They try to make him out as "Crazy Uncle Ron" but he's kicking butt and taking names...




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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really? That's a 20 year old video? Sounds awfully familiar today.

    Great post.
  • Well after today...he can forget about being the President or the vice...stupid ...just stupid
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  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    Ron Paul on CIA COUP! Yet another Piece of the Puzzle called TYRANNY damasked by Dr. Paul!!

    i'd love to see him get the gig, but... it ain't happening. 220 million people could 'vote' for him but he won't get it. they already know who they want in there next, and it's not someone that thinks like that. i'm surprised they've let him live this long.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some things Paul says sound good, and he is right in some cases. However, he is very strange on many other issues. For example, he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination... among other things. He is not fit to be commander in chief. Cheers, RickO


  • << <i>Some things Paul says sound good, and he is right in some cases. However, he is very strange on many other issues. For example, he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination... among other things. He is not fit to be commander in chief. Cheers, RickO >>



    Care to put forward the name of who is ?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some things Paul says sound good, and he is right in some cases. However, he is very strange on many other issues. For example, he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination... among other things. He is not fit to be commander in chief. Cheers, RickO >>



    Right, murdering an American citizen without due process is really wacky. This country doesn't deserve a Ron Paul for president. Enjoy what you get as you're gonna get more of what you've been getting.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Some things Paul says sound good, and he is right in some cases. However, he is very strange on many other issues. For example, he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination... among other things. He is not fit to be commander in chief. Cheers, RickO >>



    Right, murdering an American citizen without due process is really wacky. This country doesn't deserve a Ron Paul for president. Enjoy what you get as you're gonna get more of what you've been getting. >>



    Now thats whats called a dumbazz comment!
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  • Whats so dumb about it ? Its easy to make comments without anything to back them up.


  • << <i>he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination >>





    webster: assasination To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack


    Its not reflection on the good or bad of the target, or the right or wrong of the act, but by definition it was an assasination.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Care to put forward the name of who is ? >>



    No. The elections are next year.



    << <i>Right, murdering an American citizen without due process is really wacky >>



    Due process in this case was given when Obama signed the kill order.

    Tired of bleeding hearts and those that think we can talk to these murdering sub-humans.

    Cheers, RickO
  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    *sigh*


  • << <i>

    << <i>Care to put forward the name of who is ? >>



    No. >>



    Didnt think so
    cheers
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Putting forth a name, is an exercise in futility. I am not the nominating committee. We shall soon know who the candidates are, and then I will know whom I will support. Each candidate has positives and negatives. I doubt if any individual - any at all competent to serve - would not have negatives. Right now, it is not even known who (for absolute certainty) will be the democrat's candidate. This will be an interesting election cycle. Cheers, RickO
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some things Paul says sound good, and he is right in some cases. However, he is very strange on many other issues. For example, he calls the killing of Awlaki an assassination... among other things. He is not fit to be commander in chief. Cheers, RickO >>



    I'd take the baggage of RP, Newt, Bachmann, Cain, etc., added together and multiplied by Christi's weight over Dear Leader's ideology any day.
  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    but, but... he used the word "assassination" instead of the phrase "was killed".... *obviously* he is not fit to be commander in chief
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Words are only words. It is the intent and context that convey the user's meaning. Cheers, RickO


  • << <i>Putting forth a name, is an exercise in futility. I am not the nominating committee. We shall soon know who the candidates are, and then I will know whom I will support. Each candidate has positives and negatives. I doubt if any individual - any at all competent to serve - would not have negatives. Right now, it is not even known who (for absolute certainty) will be the democrat's candidate. This will be an interesting election cycle. Cheers, RickO >>



    It wasnt really the question , your comment was Ron Paul wasn't fit to be president , i asked who in your opinion would be , not who is the candidates.Its not like some super duper dark horse candidate is waiting in the wings til the last minute to run.That's ok though , a cop out is fine.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chris Christie will face a new democrat in the finals (Hillary?). Incumbent will withdraw because party leadership will tell him to. He will use the excuse that he "needs to focus on the economy" to save face. If he doesn't bow out, democratic leadership knows it will cost them the senate as it did the house.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A cop out?? Your ignorance is exceeded only by your poor manners. Cheers, RickO
  • Thats what i said ricko COP OUT , i said it right after i said it's easy to pass comments with zero to back it up. Your response speaks for itself , rude and lacking intelligent discourse , good day to you.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Chris Christie will face a new democrat in the finals (Hillary?). Incumbent will withdraw because party leadership will tell him to. He will use the excuse that he "needs to focus on the economy" to save face. If he doesn't bow out, democratic leadership knows it will cost them the senate as it did the house. >>



    Interesting, an open election! Their desperation is palpable as seen by North Carolina's Governor comment that we should cancel elections for two years. Might as well strike through the first three words of the Constitution while we're at it. And we still have thirteen months to go!
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Chris Christie will face a new democrat in the finals (Hillary?). Incumbent will withdraw because party leadership will tell him to. He will use the excuse that he "needs to focus on the economy" to save face. If he doesn't bow out, democratic leadership knows it will cost them the senate as it did the house. >>



    Interesting, an open election! Their desperation is palpable as seen by North Carolina's Governor comment that we should cancel elections for two years. Might as well strike through the first three words of the Constitution while we're at it. And we still have thirteen months to go! >>




    Who needs that old thing anyway. The founders could have never forseen how "complex" a society this has become image ( I can think of a much more accurate smilely but it would be censoredimage )
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK... here is Ron Paul... no misinterpretation.. do not play word games.... this whacko should not even be in politics... Cheers, RickO


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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Jeez where do they come from. The only "whack job" is people like you who either don't know any better or who really enjoy the great job that you and your ilk have done with this economy, with this country. Now would you please go away? You are after all hijacking the thread and are totally off topic. Not that it should be a surprise considering the source but really.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sour grapes..you have no concept of the economy and what has driven it to this point. Cheers, RickO
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sour grapes..you have no concept of the economy and what has driven it to this point. Cheers, RickO >>




    Spare me the b/s and just go away.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,010 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK... here is Ron Paul... no misinterpretation.. do not play word games.... this whacko should not even be in politics... Cheers, RickO


    Text >>


    Paul is correct. It is an impeachable offense. The fact that most Americans dislike the citizen that was assasinated by the US is irrelevent when it comes to constitutional law. Even our most hated criminals and traitors are entitled to their day in court.

    Choosing which parts of the constitution to uphold is what sets the rest of the candidates apart from Dr. Paul. As unpopular as it may make him on certain issues (war on terrorism for example) I respect his refusal to budge on honoring the entire constitution. I would rather have a leader that tells me what I NEED to hear over one that tells me what he thinks I WANT to hear.

    Hitler explained why he had not relied on the courts to deal with conspirators: "In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I become the supreme judge of the German people. I gave the order to shoot the ringleaders in this treason."

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, if Paul were elected and got his ideas passed, the USA would fall into a Depression much worse than the 1930s.

    For example, if the FED were abolished, do you know how high the dollar would go? Do you know what that would mean for global economies?
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,010 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately, if Paul were elected and got his ideas passed, the USA would fall into a Depression much worse than the 1930s.

    For example, if the FED were abolished, do you know how high the dollar would go? Do you know what that would mean for global economies? >>


    Government/FED intervention made the depression worse and it will do the same with the greater depression.
    Markets correct/fix themselve through equilibrium. Governments/central banks prolong natural correction with intervention. Political leaders want the pain to be suffered during the next administration, not the current one. It's gonna take a true patriot of a leader to do what needs to be done; are there any out there?

    I remember Treasury Secretary Volcker allowing interest rates to naturally hit double digits. Painful, but quick resolution.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ron Paul appears to be the kooky little Ross Perot for a new generation image

    Right about some things, wildly unrealistic about others. Plus, occasionally kranky!

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    You talking to me? I really don't want to get into this here. I'll do so one time. I am not a well versed guy in the financial markets. I don't understand the stock market, made money in the futures market by dumb luck. What I do know how to do though is build a successful business and I've done so the old fashioned way, as well as the high tech way and I assure you the extent of my own personal "high tech" is an old nokia cell phone that I bought on ebay for $20 bucks. However, building a business from virtually zero to a point of being very independent in a matter of a decade, that I know how to do and I've done it on 2 different continents. I also know that every administration, republican and democrat for at least the last 50 years has strived to suck the life out of this country by doing it's dangest to build the empire abroad, involve us in as many internal affairs as possible, create more and more government offices here and abroad, and as a result of that and many other immoral, il-advised and un-affordable spending sprees, the middle class in this country is disintigrating and in almost all cases have become too ignorant to even know it.

    Higher taxes in every form are guaranteed for future generations and the very word American has morphed into a different meaning around the world because of our behavior. If a Ron Paul were elected to the highest office in the land, I believe that the people around the world who are true seekers of freedom would see that America has begun the long journey of changing back to obeyance of the Constitution, of limited government and sound fiscal money and policies, with a true Constitutionalist in the White House who has an undisputable history of obeying the spirit of what I believe is the worlds greatest document ( do you disagree? ), then they would also see a huge increase of investment, jobs and the dark days of all the decades of what's been done to this place would be replaced with perhaps the greatest and longest time of prosperity we have ever seen.

    EVERY one of them in my lifetime has lied in a big way and has NOT upheld their oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. EVERY one of them in one way or another started some kind of military action over nebulous reasons somewhere, or propped up some dictator somewhere only to support the next guy somewhere, EVERY one of them has increased the size of government by creating new departments and new legions of bureacrats spending money in such a way that forces most people to have to work 5, 10 maybe 20 years more of their lifes because of the lack of buying power the dollar has. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

    Again, maybe I'm just missing the boat here. Maybe I should get behind he who promises the most! But it seems to me that every one of those guys has been doing this place and the sheeple keep "electing" a facsimile of the previous guy with small variations. Maybe the average guy likes getting it? Either that or the system really is bannana-republic-like in which case people should be real mad but they're not so I have to think that most of you enjoy getting it.

    Has to be one or the other. In either case I trust and I support Ron Paul and while I don't "know" how to explain why I trust what this country was built upon previous to the introduction of the federal reserve, the irs, and all the wonderful wars and other things government has done since that time, I'll just go with what my guts tell me about a man who has been the most consistent defender of the Constitution in the house of representatives in at least the last 25 years and probably more than that.

    But certainly your opinion may be more valid than mine. image



  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Due process in this case was given when Obama signed the kill order.

    I am not familiar with that legal precedent. Please elaborate.
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  • fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭
    Obama will run. Period. To do otherwise, would be to admit he is and was wrong. That is something he pathologically cannot do.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    What the heck does that have to do with Ron Paul on the Federal Reserve and Government Deficit Spending ?

    Here's another far out guy who agrees on the other o/t issue

    Michael Savage Agrees with Ron Paul


    WAKE UP!
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bravo Tom, I agree wholeheartedly. I too have had several successful businesses. Retired now but I remember
    the pain and long hours to get where I got. Enough said about me but the fact that Ron Paul will stand up for
    the Constitution over and over tells me he understands what made this country great. And it was not big government,
    it was business, big and small that made this country great.

    Abolish the Fed now. Oh, would there be ramifications here and worldwide? Yes, of course. But, it will have to be
    done and soon or this country will be indebted to and owned by the bankers and those on Wall and Broad streets.

    Fiat currency is just not cutting it. Billions used to be a big number. I think it still is, but the government and the Fed
    poo poo billions in favor of trillions. A billion seconds ago was 1900 years ago. A billion days ago was 2.7 million years
    ago. A billion dollars ago (per Fed spending) was a mere 8 hours and twenty minutes ago. And now we have to deal
    with trillions of dollars. Not comprehensible to the majority of college educated folks out there.

    Back the currency with something solid. I don't care if it is wheat or corn or silver or whatever. Just base government
    spending on something concrete and not imaginary.

    bob
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  • << <i>You talking to me? I really don't want to get into this here. I'll do so one time. I am not a well versed guy in the financial markets. I don't understand the stock market, made money in the futures market by dumb luck. What I do know how to do though is build a successful business and I've done so the old fashioned way, as well as the high tech way and I assure you the extent of my own personal "high tech" is an old nokia cell phone that I bought on ebay for $20 bucks. However, building a business from virtually zero to a point of being very independent in a matter of a decade, that I know how to do and I've done it on 2 different continents. I also know that every administration, republican and democrat for at least the last 50 years has strived to suck the life out of this country by doing it's dangest to build the empire abroad, involve us in as many internal affairs as possible, create more and more government offices here and abroad, and as a result of that and many other immoral, il-advised and un-affordable spending sprees, the middle class in this country is disintigrating and in almost all cases have become too ignorant to even know it.

    Higher taxes in every form are guaranteed for future generations and the very word American has morphed into a different meaning around the world because of our behavior. If a Ron Paul were elected to the highest office in the land, I believe that the people around the world who are true seekers of freedom would see that America has begun the long journey of changing back to obeyance of the Constitution, of limited government and sound fiscal money and policies, with a true Constitutionalist in the White House who has an undisputable history of obeying the spirit of what I believe is the worlds greatest document ( do you disagree? ), then they would also see a huge increase of investment, jobs and the dark days of all the decades of what's been done to this place would be replaced with perhaps the greatest and longest time of prosperity we have ever seen.

    EVERY one of them in my lifetime has lied in a big way and has NOT upheld their oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. EVERY one of them in one way or another started some kind of military action over nebulous reasons somewhere, or propped up some dictator somewhere only to support the next guy somewhere, EVERY one of them has increased the size of government by creating new departments and new legions of bureacrats spending money in such a way that forces most people to have to work 5, 10 maybe 20 years more of their lifes because of the lack of buying power the dollar has. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

    Again, maybe I'm just missing the boat here. Maybe I should get behind he who promises the most! But it seems to me that every one of those guys has been doing this place and the sheeple keep "electing" a facsimile of the previous guy with small variations. Maybe the average guy likes getting it? Either that or the system really is bannana-republic-like in which case people should be real mad but they're not so I have to think that most of you enjoy getting it.

    Has to be one or the other. In either case I trust and I support Ron Paul and while I don't "know" how to explain why I trust what this country was built upon previous to the introduction of the federal reserve, the irs, and all the wonderful wars and other things government has done since that time, I'll just go with what my guts tell me about a man who has been the most consistent defender of the Constitution in the house of representatives in at least the last 25 years and probably more than that.

    But certainly your opinion may be more valid than mine. image >>


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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,242 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mostly agree with you mrearlygold. I also am HIGHLY confident that if Paul were to be elected--and most importantly effective--, our society would revert to 1932. Texasnationals would be well prepared for the socio-economic outcome.



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    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's amazing how most Americans have been brainwashed into believing we can't survive without big government and bailouts.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The Walburgs, Rothchilds etc, have enough money, what they want even more than money
    is complete control over every human beings life. Gradualism at its finest.

    Don't worry it will happen soon enough.


    Good for you.
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