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This box is coming home to Poppa!

NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
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It will arrive shortly. But looking at the picture, I almost feel like keeping it sacred and not opening it and ripping every pack. Almost. Lord give me strength. Series 5th/6th/7th 1970 Baseball Wax...What is the smart thing to do?

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  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭


    << <i>What is the smart thing to do? >>



    The smart thing to do is to keep it sealed. Whatever you end up doing, Congrats!
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    I know for sure I would open it.I do not have any will power when it comes to opening boxes.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can barely leave a pack of 1990 Donruss unopened, so if you can go without opening that then you have a rare sort of will power my friend.
    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • al032184al032184 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭
    I cannot leave baseball unopened, that is why my unopened collection is football. You should put it in a safe that only your wife knows the combination to.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! That is high end! $300 a pack! High #s bring big bucks, good luck!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    I have no will power! I bought it with every intention of opening every pack! But it looks so beautiful...forget it, it doesn't have a prayer.
    Nikklos
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    It's a good gamble! People buy the wrappers, they buy the empty box, the hi-number commons...it's a worth ripping!
    Nikklos
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Hey Chris,

    I've been eyeing that box for awhile. Great, great pickup!!! Matt is right that the smart thing to do would be to leave it sealed if you can afford to. Not many high series 1970 BB wax boxes floating around these days. There is great potential in that box, but I would have no problem keeping them unopened. I have a feeling you will be ripping it sooner or later, but you may want to look at the packs carefully to see if you see any stars showing through as those packs would sell at a premium especially if you get it graded high by PSA which I would think would be the case with these packs.

    Let us know what you ultimately do with it, but most of all ENJOY!!!
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is the smart thing to do? >>



    A videotaped rip is always the answer to that question. But, we'd settle for pictures. image
  • dennis07dennis07 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭
    I collected 1970 as a thirteen year old. Last year I decide to complete a couple of sets so I did some buying on ebay.
    Seeing the box really brings back some memories. I can almost smell the gum. If you decide to open them I hope you get
    mostly 7th series. If you leave them as is they belong in a secure place.
    Collecting 1970 Topps baseball
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    That is great advice, CPAMike. I am going to do just what you said.

    I get the box by Friday. I am for sure going to post any and all rips. The video thing is interesting - I like those YouTube videos!
    Nikklos
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The smart thing to do is go to Youtube and watch the few dozen unopened vintage pack rips on there. After doing so, you may have little urge to rip them. Good luck if you do though.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Open the box and say to yourself, I'll only rip one pack...after ripping that pack, say to yourself, I'll only rip one more pack...then.....image
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭
    Is it just me? Does it not look like that poor NYM is trying to commit harakiri? (perhaps this year, but they had just won the World Series!)
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it just me? Does it not look like that poor NYM is trying to commit harakiri? (perhaps this year, but they had just won the World Series!) >>



    Maybe he was vampire.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is it just me? Does it not look like that poor NYM is trying to commit harakiri? (perhaps this year, but they had just won the World Series!) >>



    Maybe he was vampire. >>



    to Jerry Grote fans...come on it was only a joke. image
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    I will be highly disappointed if you don't rip that.
  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    That looks like fun image
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    How many autos or GU in a box like that?


  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We need you to rip...many of us here live vicariously thru other people's rips. image
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    Don't worry. I already am counting the minutes til the thing gets here...
    Nikklos
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    You are going to RIP that entire box? Man, and I thought THESE were big!!!

    image

    GOOD LUCK ... A VIDEO SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whatever ya do, don't listen to cpamike...he's been known to refuse to help old ladies cross the street, kick innocent little dogs, and steal candy from babies...but worst of all he is an unopened pack collector who doesn't rip packs. image
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Hamina-hamina-hamina-hamina!!!
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cpa mike said he'd have no problem keeping this box sealed? Why you don't say!! LOL..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    The year before I was born...I do not have the will power to not rip that.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I would go all "Ben Roethlisberger" on that box...
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Check and see if any stars are showing.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    gotta leave that one sealed
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,597 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cpa mike said he'd have no problem keeping this box sealed? Why you don't say!! LOL.. >>



    Mike would have the whole box slabbed if PSA offered that service. LOL

    Actually, that might not be a half bad idea for PSA to offer that??
  • captainthreeputtcaptainthreeputt Posts: 1,235 ✭✭
    As much as we would all love to see you RIP that BOX! In my opinion, this is one to save.

    Brian
    1911 C55 hockey
    1935 National Chicle
    1961 Golden Press
    1962 Bell Brand Dodgers
    Top 200 cards in the hobby
    Top 250 cards in the hobby
    All time lakers
    All time Dodgers
    1957 Disney Characters
    1965 Donruss Disneyland
    1966 Get Smart
    Brian
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    But still check to see if there are stars showing. I would love to see a Pete Rose showing on the back! Or a Ryan!
    But keep it unopened pack wise.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    how many times are you gonna get the chance to do something like rip this box in this short life? If it doesn't hurt you financially one way or the other, then the entertainment factor is worth it. I buy singles and sets with the intention of selling for a profit, but I buy unopened with the pure intent to rip for the enjoyment. Nothing like getting crispy cards with the chance at 10's, especially on some this old.
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    OK I swear to keep my Ryan, Rose, Aaron, Bench and Mays backs unopened!
    Nikklos
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That a boy!!!
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    It may be worth while to rip a couple packs to get an idea of what kind of condition the cards/gum/wax are in. Look for any gum bleeding, factory marks, and look at the general centering, etc., then decide whether to have the rest slabbed or rip the rest. I would like to think I had that willpower, but I definitely don't. I suppose if you spent that much money on that box, you have probably made up your mind already. What is that, a $10k box?
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>he's been known to refuse to help old ladies cross the street, kick innocent little dogs, and steal candy from babies. >>



    You saw all that, damn. image

    I needed a good laugh today Steve, thanks. image

    Just think, when you guys are done ripping everything out there including the resealed junk when you run out of legit stuff, I'll still have my stash. By the way, I'm not going to kick innocent BIG dogs and babies aren't supposed to be eating candy anyway so I'm doing them a favor.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭
    I would SERIOUSLY be interested in taking a pack or two off your hands for the right price.
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It may be worth while to rip a couple packs to get an idea of what kind of condition the cards/gum/wax are in. Look for any gum bleeding, factory marks, and look at the general centering, etc., then decide whether to have the rest slabbed or rip the rest. I would like to think I had that willpower, but I definitely don't. I suppose if you spent that much money on that box, you have probably made up your mind already. What is that, a $10k box? >>



    Great points by Jeff regarding seeing the condition of the cards out of some of the non-star packs you rip first and then depending on the condition of the cards finishing the job off or submitting the remaining packs for grading.

    Does anyone know if the individual packs contain the same series or are they mixed series as well?

    Good Luck!!!

    BTW Jeff, I think you should go check for poppage now. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    Everybody is right. The right thing to do is keep it sealed. Jeff gives great advice regarding checking the first few packs, etc. It is a great idea to separate out the packs with stars on back (and resist the urge to rip those too!)

    What Corvette said really strikes the chord. I feel like a kid at Christmas. I can tell you for sure - that box is going to be opened. It's how many packs are going to be ripped is the question!
    Nikklos
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It may be worth while to rip a couple packs to get an idea of what kind of condition the cards/gum/wax are in. Look for any gum bleeding, factory marks, and look at the general centering, etc., then decide whether to have the rest slabbed or rip the rest. I would like to think I had that willpower, but I definitely don't. I suppose if you spent that much money on that box, you have probably made up your mind already. What is that, a $10k box? >>



    I think that's mostly what's left out there in terms of vintage unopened. If a box shows promising quality control, it gets busted. If it doesn't, it gets backfilled and gets resold.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    Bking - It wouldn't be worth it - I would charge a lot more than BBCE!
    Nikklos
  • relaxedrelaxed Posts: 569 ✭
    Probably a win win decision if you open the packs or you leave it intact.
    Collecting 1955 Topps BB
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that's mostly what's left out there in terms of vintage unopened. If a box shows promising quality control, it gets busted. If it doesn't, it gets backfilled and gets resold. >>



    I totally agree with you. There are many vintage boxes out on eBay that are like this. Sometimes you can tell by looking at the packs as the backfilled ones might not match up condition wise to the originals that weren't ripped. Another thing collectors will do if they realize the box has centering and/or other issues, is to get the remaining packs graded and sell them that way.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And 1970 marks the first year topps produced 10-card wax packs, so you have 240 cards for the box, or $30 per card! Good luck!

    Edit to add: There's also a definite premium for an original intact box like this as opposed to one that was pieced together with single packs.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And 1970 marks the first year topps produced 10-card wax packs, so you have 240 cards for the box, or $30 per card! Good luck!

    Edit to add: There's also a definite premium for an original intact box like this as opposed to one that was pieced together with single packs. >>



    Do we know that it wasn't pieced together? Just because it came from BBCE doesn't mean it came from a case. It could be a piecemeal box and still legit. Just playing devil's advocate.
    https://ebay.com/sch/gemint/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    I would think it is piecemeal as the description said the packs look great and range from NM to Mint. Yet another reason to rip!

    Around 260 cards combined in the series(es). 240 cards in the box. The mind reels....
    Nikklos
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gemmint,

    Anything is possible, but series 5/6/7 packs are very hard to come by individually and identified as such, so I'd suspect this particular box is original. JMHO.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be better than watching a 1986-87 Fleer BK box by 10x !!!
    Cant wait!
    So many HOF in those series
    I hope you get 3 or more ryans and the box is loaded!
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    I recently purchased an individual Series 5th/6th/7th pack from BBCE - didn't post as it revealed the vagaries of ripping vs. keeping intact! The box was a much better value - although never probably spent this much on baseball cards in my lifetime (even if you add it all up!)
    Nikklos
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