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"I've lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: That God governs
in the affairs of men. If a sparrow cannont fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise
without his aide? Wev'e been assured in the sacred writings that unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in
vain who build it."
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<< <i>"I've lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: That God governs
in the affairs of men. If a sparrow cannont fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise
without his aide? Wev'e been assured in the sacred writings that unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in
vain who build it." >>
The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the gentleman who reads it.-- Robert Green Ingersoll
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
One thing for certain...regardless of anyone's religious or spiritual beliefs, as any soldier can tell you...there are no atheists in a foxhole.
good 'ole Ben. I wish the g'ment was full of people like him, Jefferson, and Adams today. Even though we are a far more advance society, the founding principles should always remain the same.
"The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the gentleman who reads it.-- Robert Green Ingersoll"
This is ignorance in and of itself.
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This appears to have been a little to easy for this group of Historians. I've enjoyed the respones; Foxholes, Half Dollar, Ignorance, Glad he was an American, and others.
The history revisionists and the die hard secularists when confronted with quotes from our
founding fathers such as this one from Ben Franklin can only answer back " I didn't know that" or "thats not so" etc.,
And these are college educated individuals whom take pride in their vast knowledge in the fields of political science and U.S. History.
Surley our colleges CAN produce better.
When I advised one that Thomas Jefferson, their (wall of seperation champion) bought and supplied Bibles to the schools, they had no answer.
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The history revisionists and the die hard secularists when confronted with quotes from our
founding fathers such as this one from Ben Franklin can only answer back " I didn't know that" or "thats not so" etc.,
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That all happened hundreds of years ago, get with the times.
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<< <i>"I've lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: That God governs
in the affairs of men. If a sparrow cannont fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise
without his aide? Wev'e been assured in the sacred writings that unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in
vain who build it." >>
The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the gentleman who reads it.-- Robert Green Ingersoll >>
Obviously, he never read it. I would venture he devoured the works of Moses Mordecai Levi.
Robert Green Ingersol (1833-1899)
"We are satisfied that there can be but little liberty on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven" - The Gods (1872). One of many tidbits of "enlightenment" on the website positiveatheism.org. Too bad he didn't get to see the consequences of worshipping earth-bound tyrants Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler... I'll stick with the "tyrant in heaven", thank you. I like my God given Liberty.
<< <i>Here we go again..... bible thumpers vs. logic .... oh well, everyone is entitled.... Cheers, RickO >>
Logic 101: Either: Or fallacy. Self-defeating. Wanna try again? Didn't stay awake for that lesson?
Try this. Using humanistic/naturalistic/materialistic/atheistic presuppostions, show us empirically & scientifically (biological, physics, chemical) step by step to the existence of abstract (nonmaterial) laws of logic, like noncontradiction, which you presuppose above?
I'm a bio major, not theology or philosophy but studied them all --HARD. I never argued in class or disrupted. I asked all my professors, on their time preference, after class to outline the theory of the steps required to something like, say SEXUAL reproduction. Let's work on this together. Become famous. Moved beyond 'theory.' The colleges have long abandoned Darwinistic gradualism and the Emperor with no clothes (call it: "punctuated equilibrium LOL" yes, I have read Dawkins, Gould, ALL of them), yet that's still in the gov't school texts.
Responses ranged from usually: gaping jaw, blank stares or soiled pants (hyperbole on the last one) Then a smug, 'go talk to the philosophy department.'
No, I want to talk Biology. Chemistry. Physics. Experiements. MECHANISMS. Actual Steps in DNA mutations, progression 'uphill' toward complexity. Interconnected organ systems and neuroendocrine hormones, enzymatic biochemistry, idiotype: anti-idiotype immune regulation, many more.
Nada. Zippo. 'go talk to your preacher then'
Relgious neuatrality is a myth. Everyone's got religion, it's which one is it? Currently, we are subsidizing a pseudoscientifc religion called 'evolution' in our gov't schools. I bet less than 2% of board members have read Darwin's "On the Origin..." and less than 10% of Bio majors, yet they think they know all they need to know. Ostriches. And Smug. We Americans purport to know about more things we have never even cracked a book on. It's sick.
George Washington, Ben Franklin, John Adams, JQA, James Madison, etc etc were all 'whackos' Thomas Jefferson made his true (nonChristian) beliefs known and edited/produced his own version of the "Bible" after his political career was over-- it's easy to buy a copy in any bookstore in Charlottesville at HIS university. He stripped out all the miracles and supernatural stuff and left the moral teachings that he liked. But I digress. Otis, Please don't poof this thread.
edited out a 'spontaneous emoticon-- Either
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
"Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist ." (from his autobiography)
<< <i> Thomas Jefferson made his true (nonChristian) beliefs known and edited/produced his own version of the "Bible" after his political career was over-- it's easy to buy a copy in any bookstore in Charlottesville at HIS university. He stripped out all the miracles and supernatural stuff and left the moral teachings that he liked. But I digress. Otis, Please don't poof this thread. >>
This is very well known, but Jefferson did in fact claim to be a Christian and a better one than most. A Christian in the sense that he believed that Christs moral teachings were
needed by all, especially if this country were to survive for any real lentgh of time in the course of history.
I have always hoped that he regained the Faith (in the divinity of Jesus Christ) before he passed, it would sure be a shame if he did not.
It's so much better to imagine his everlasting soul spending eternity in the nice place high up in the clouds, and not in the hot place deep underground.
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