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2008 Gold Buffalo Set

cjmezzcjmezz Posts: 467
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There is a small local auction coming up at the end of the month in my area. They have the following to sell:

2008 4 coin Gold Buffalo set Graded Proof 70 Ultra Cameo, 1st Strike

Any help as to the value of this set? I've looked on ebay and seen asking prices of 7500-18,000?


Thanks for the help.
CJ
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    8,500 would be my max bid, but I don't want one that badly.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The last few ebay auctions for PR-70 FS were between $14,000 and $16,500 - but I don't know how long ago they were held. The non-1st strike PR-70s show a precipitous decline to $8,000 to $9,000 from the loft levels of $13,000 to $17,000 (again, I can't say when they were held).

    Clearly, the high end of your ebay research is someone's pipe dream. And if there is an asking price on one for $7,500 - is that a B-I-N or a starting price for a real auction?

    I'm thinking along the same lines as derryb for the set, HOWEVER - the price histories for the individual coins look to be holding some premiums and a middle of the road estimate for the individual PCGS PR-70 FS coins comes in around $11,500. My data for individual coins is more plentiful and possibly a bit more reliable because it is also somewhat more current.

    There is a real discrepancy there which also creates much more uncertainty on the real value. That's why they invented auctions!image

    Hope that helps, some at least.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    someone I know just sold a PR70 PCGS 1st strike set for 12000

    I'd rather spend that money on 90% silver, some gold bullion, and some cheaper numismatic gold than waste it on 1.85 oz of gold.......
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this reads like NGC but also like PCGS

    the terminology is mixed.

    "Ultra Cameo" is NGC
    "First Strike" is PCGS


    which is it?
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  • cjmezzcjmezz Posts: 467
    Thanks for the input.....the listing doesn't say NGC or PCGS..it list it just as I typed it.

    I'm not looking to keep them, just wondering if they could possibly be purchased low and flipped

    Thanks
    CJ
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Give it a try except I will say my friend had trouble selling it. Took 1 yr......
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Comrade jmski, do you have any data on raw 2008-W Buf uncs? Not selling, just inquiring.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the input.....the listing doesn't say NGC or PCGS..it list it just as I typed it.

    I'm not looking to keep them, just wondering if they could possibly be purchased low and flipped

    Thanks
    CJ >>


    They were low in 2008. image

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Comrade jmski, do you have any data on raw 2008-W Buf uncs? Not selling, just inquiring.

    Yes, I track ebay sales on all the 2008-W gold Buffs, in every grade listed by NGC & PCGS and raw or in the box. I don't log the dates, but I save my spreadsheets. Whatcha need?image
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  • mhammermanmhammerman Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭
    "I save my spreadsheets. Whatcha need?"

    What's the wholesale book on a raw, boxed set of uncs as issued?
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's the wholesale book on a raw, boxed set of uncs as issued?

    Best guess............around $5,800 if sold on ebay, before fees. Range, something like $5,500 to $6,300 - trending down, but not crashing - imo.
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thx
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I'd rather spend that money on 90% silver, some gold bullion, and some cheaper numismatic gold than waste it on 1.85 oz of gold.......

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