Darn it...did I pull the trigger too fast? Has this Morgan Rainbow been cleaned and retoned?

uofa1285

Darn it...did I pull the trigger too fast? Has this Morgan Rainbow been cleaned and retoned?

Link to eBay auction that I used BIN

Thanks in advance, Doug

LanceNewmanOCC

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AT/NT

75/25% - IMHO
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the color looks a little thin to me but could just be the lighting
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if forced to go on the record about this particular coin, i choose to retract my opinion !
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TonedRarities

that coin is 100% with out a doubt AT.

Pokermandude

I'm thinking AT as well. MS70ish colors, just not as intense as most coin doctors make them tone. It has that "painted on" quality, and the crescent shape just isn't quite right either.

jmski52

The seller's repertoire of current auctions seems to include a lot of toned Morgans, most of which don't look so good.

crypto79

<< <i>I'm thinking AT as well. MS70ish colors, just not as intense as most coin doctors make them tone. It has that "painted on" quality, and the crescent shape just isn't quite right either. >>



This is a good answer and most likely dead on accurate

OchoReales

<< <i>I'm thinking AT as well. MS70ish colors, just not as intense as most coin doctors make them tone. It has that "painted on" quality, and the crescent shape just isn't quite right either. >>



As well as another '91 S with the same colors on the flip side of the obverse AGAIN!!!

ColonialCoinUnion

Doesn't look right to me.

PerryHall

Agree with the answers so far. Can you return it?

TheCoinGeezer

Looking at the seller's other auctions, it seems quite remarkable to me that he has many other Morgans with almost identical toning.
Coincidence? Perhaps but I think AT all the way.

BAJJERFAN

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<< <i>I'm thinking AT as well. MS70ish colors, just not as intense as most coin doctors make them tone. It has that "painted on" quality, and the crescent shape just isn't quite right either. >>



As well as another '91 S with the same colors on the flip side of the obverse AGAIN!!! >>



As well as being a date which is not known for providing many nice toners.

DoubleEagle59

If I had to choose between AT and NT, I'd go AT.

roadrunner

The color doesn't bother me as much as those luster "shadows" around the eagle, wreath, and reverse lettering....usually a sign of the exposed fields having once been played with.
I'd vote for cleaned. The NT/AT issue is of lesser importance after that.

roadrunner

AMRC

Coin has been processed. One thing about AT coins is that surfaces have to be fairly clean before toning can be done. So in most cases the coin is stripped before it goes through the AT process. So when in doubt about toning, also look for signs of cleaning.

segoja

concur + slide marks on the face

tincup

He does have a three day return policy.... money back but you have to pay the shipping cost to return, plus looks like he will withhold his shipping cost. I would hold up payment and ask that he void the sale... he does have 100% feedback so I would expect he would be willing to work something out.

FWIW... I also think it is AT; the reverse especially looks messed with to me.

messydesk

The halo under the eagle's wings, around the arrowheads, and by the cut end of the olive branch make the reverse look as though it had been polished.

Tiny

I think it is an AT coin. Did you look at the rest of his tones Morgans and
see that they all had very similar colors?

etexmike

Looks like I am not going to tell you anything new.

AT on this one from the pics.


Mike

astrorat

Cleaned AU and then retoned.

bestclser1

Cleaned and retoned = AT to me pal!

uofa1285

Thanks folks. Guess this was my 1 AM late night "shopping channel" purchase...lol. I will see if I can void the sale. I appreciate your help! Doug

Rampage

Very much obviously cleaned. Very easy to tell from the seller's provided images.

kryptonitecomics

AT

LindeDad

If needed use the 3 day return.

JamesM

100% at

GeorgeKellogg

I'm not sure about the toning, but at a fairly low price ($85), you don't have much downside risk. If I were you, I'd consider keeping the coin (since you initially liked it enough to pull the trigger). If it turns out to be AT, you can add it to your reference collection, which would be valuable for future coin evaluations. If we were talking "big bucks," it would be a different story.

morgandollar1878

I would call it AT, as it has the look of the toning "floating" on the coin.

SamByrd

AT. The reverse and obverse almost never match in a NT coin at least among the countless Morgan's one sees. The fact the seller has a lot of other coins that look the same is a big red flag as well.

Jinx86

Eh I dont think I would have bought it, but I like white Morgans anyways. The toning does look very thin and too abrupt of color changes. Looked any what else was listed from this seller and this caught my eye.....

1891-S toner

uofa1285

Update: The seller graciously and quickly reversed the transaction with a nice letter. I would recommend this seller to the forum members...the mistake was mine.

Thanks! Doug

TexasNationals

That coin is a AU train wreck, worth about 1/3 of what you paid, return it.

Chump4Change

<< <i>Update: The seller graciously and quickly reversed the transaction with a nice letter. I would recommend this seller to the forum members...the mistake was mine.

Thanks! Doug >>



Gee whiz thanks for the recommendation buddy...I will keep him in mind if I ever want overpriced, overgraded AT morgans.

uofa1285

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<< <i>Update: The seller graciously and quickly reversed the transaction with a nice letter. I would recommend this seller to the forum members...the mistake was mine.

Thanks! Doug >>



Gee whiz thanks for the recommendation buddy...I will keep him in mind if I ever want overpriced, overgraded AT morgans. >>



Haha...no, I just meant if he has OTHER material that you feel comfortable buying, he did the upright thing with me, even though I had already bought his auction. Other material could be slabbed items, circulated-can't-go-wrong items, etc. Doug

TomB

Nasty.

Elcontador

To je govno.

Shamika

The obverse doesn't look bad, but the reverse definitely isn't right.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Eh I dont think I would have bought it, but I like white Morgans anyways. The toning does look very thin and too abrupt of color changes. Looked any what else was listed from this seller and this caught my eye.....

1891-S toner >>



Same coin as the OP bought, just been relisted.

WTCG

Anybody who wants to dip their toes in the toned coin segment needs to learn how to distinguish between natural toning and artificial toning before they start spending big money on purchases. If they can't tell between what's obviously fake and what's legitimate they're better off throwing stacks of their money into a furnace.

atarian

Best part of this ad is a 3 day full money back . I suggest using that.

WoodenJefferson

"In house...expedited no waiting toning"

johnny9434

put in for a snad. see if you can get your money back. it just dont look right. jmo

lordmarcovan

I wouldn't know. It sorta looked OK to me.

Maybe that's why I'm not a collector of toned Morgans, and why AT/NT discrimination has never been my strong suit.

Edit to add: what's a "snad"?

(Something Not As Described?)