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Albert Pujlos is a knob. Catches the foul ball and shows it to a fan in his glove and then takes it a way. Class act Albert, no wonder you team is 10.5 games back of the Crew. Karma Baby!!!!
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    Future First Ballot Hall-of-Famer... and likely Top 5 Player of All-Time!
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  • << <i>Future First Ballot Hall-of-Famer... and likely Top 5 Player of All-Time! >>



    not top 5

    ruth,rose,williams,aaron etc the list goes on.
  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Future First Ballot Hall-of-Famer... and likely Top 5 Player of All-Time! >>



    they said the same thing about Bonds.
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Albert Pujlos is a knob. Catches the foul ball and shows it to a fan in his glove and then takes it a way. Class act Albert, no wonder you team is 10.5 games back of the Crew. Karma Baby!!!! >>

    That was pretty bush.

    In spite of his well polished public persona, he can be a bit of a punk at times.
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who is Albert Pujlos?

    I saw the play. Though not the greatest way to endear himself to fans, I thought it was pretty funny. If he would have done that to a kid, it would have been totally different. This was some 60 year old slob that would have probably put the ball on Ebay. Also, nobody has brought up the fact that this was obviously pay back for what Nyger Morgan did in St Louis in the last series. With Pujols, there was only 2 outs. But with three outs, Nyger Morgan did the same thing in center field. He caught the third out, turned, and faked a throw to a fan in the bleaches, and as he headed for the dugout, grinned sarcastically.

    I hardly ever take up for Pujols on these boards. I gave that up a long, long time ago. I am not even taking up for him here. I wouldn't have done it, but it was simply payback for what Nyger Morgan did, and I thought is was kind of funny. Plus, what about the fact that Brewers fans mercilessly boo him every time he is introduced or does something.

    What I don't understand is the tendency on these boards to want to crucify one of the greatest players in the history of the game for anything he does; to automatically think that he is on PED's; and to overlook some of the great things he does off the field.

    I have been a Cardinals fan since I was 7, and this guy has been a joy to watch since he was brought up in 2001. If Pujols wins the triple crown next year, or bat's .400, or does something really great, most of you guys would just flame away and give the guy zero credit. I just don't understand that.

    Shane

  • Quotes like "top five player of all time" show some kool aid drinking...and there is a lot of that on here.

    People talking about him being such a 'saint' and using that to show that there is no way he could take PED's.

    Basically, the guys is just as full of S$@t as all the other guys in MLB...you Pujols guys just look at him with blinders, like there is a need to create a messiah.


    By the way Albert, I am still waiting for that public drug test you offered up. You know, that clever way of getting people off your back about PED's...knowing full well you never would have gone through with it. It worked for the mindless, I will give you that.

    And stop lying when you say "it isn't about the money." You know, like when you lied about your age when dating that older woman. Albert is not immune to lying...so stop thinking he is.

    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Quotes like "top five player of all time" show some kool aid drinking...and there is a lot of that on here.

    People talking about him being such a 'saint' and using that to show that there is no way he could take PED's.

    Basically, the guys is just as full of S$@t as all the other guys in MLB...you Pujols guys just look at him with blinders, like there is a need to create a messiah.


    By the way Albert, I am still waiting for that public drug test you offered up. You know, that clever way of getting people off your back about PED's...knowing full well you never would have gone through with it. It worked for the mindless, I will give you that.

    And stop lying when you say "it isn't about the money." You know, like when you lied about your age when dating that older woman. Albert is not immune to lying...so stop thinking he is. >>



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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Quotes like "top five player of all time" show some kool aid drinking...and there is a lot of that on here.

    People talking about him being such a 'saint' and using that to show that there is no way he could take PED's.

    Basically, the guys is just as full of S$@t as all the other guys in MLB...you Pujols guys just look at him with blinders, like there is a need to create a messiah. >>



    I have not done that. He's not perfect, just like everybody else. I simply admire what he has done on the baseball field and off the field. It's as simply as that. Let's have a little balance here. HE IS FAR FROM PERFECT!!!!!

    There, now why don't you concede a little bit and say he's a great player.

    I never said top 5. I just said one of the greatest. To argue against that ruins your credibility. No player in the history of the game has started there career with even TWO seasons of .300 avg, 30 HR, and 100 RBI's. He has done it TEN SEASONS. That is just to start a career. Lou Gehrig did it 8 seasons in a row in his prime, Babe Ruth did it 7 in his prime.

    I know what is coming next - "He has to be on PED's"? Were Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig on PED's? Look, I'm not saying that he is 100% for sure not on PED's. However, he has never tested positive, and his body has not drastically changed (nor his stats). Until this happens, I am going to give him (and anybody else) the benefit of the doubt.

    I said all of that to say this - let's have a little balance around here. For him being my favorite player on my favorite team, I think I do have a balanced opinion of him. For most of you haters, all you can do is say something negative.

    (Thought to self: I knew I shouldn't have gotten into this argument - it's a no win situation)

    Shane



  • << <i>Quotes
    I know what is coming next - "He has to be on PED's"? Were Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig on PED's? Look, I'm not saying that he is 100% for sure not on PED's. However, he has never tested positive, and his body has not drastically changed (nor his stats). Until this happens, I am going to give him (and anybody else) the benefit of the doubt. >>





    His stats and body DID change...before he got drafted.


    Whenever anybody says, "he has never tested positive," that is one of the funniest things I ever hear. That test was, and is, an absolute joke.

    Albert, I am still waiting for that public drug test you offered up.
    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭
    It is more of the rivalry with the Brewers and the Cards. I have been a Brewer fan for my 40 years on this planet. Yeah, it has been a tough ride most of the time but the past few years against the Cards I have seen two teams bang it out game after game. LaRusa makes it even more fun to watch but shutting down a player of albert's caliber is always nice to see. We have owned his arse this year.

    And was it pay back? Probably. But why get revenge? Why payback? Oh yeah, that is what the manager institutes into his players heads. I honestly think LaRusa has lost his team too many games this year playing head games. It sure would be nice to have the cards playing for something but I guess not this year image
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is more of the rivalry with the Brewers and the Cards. I have been a Brewer fan for my 40 years on this planet. Yeah, it has been a tough ride most of the time but the past few years against the Cards I have seen two teams bang it out game after game. LaRusa makes it even more fun to watch but shutting down a player of albert's caliber is always nice to see. We have owned his arse this year.

    And was it pay back? Probably. But why get revenge? Why payback? Oh yeah, that is what the manager institutes into his players heads. I honestly think LaRusa has lost his team too many games this year playing head games. It sure would be nice to have the cards playing for something but I guess not this year image >>



    I actually agree about LaRussa. I think it's time for him to go.

    Shane

  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Quotes
    I know what is coming next - "He has to be on PED's"? Were Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig on PED's? Look, I'm not saying that he is 100% for sure not on PED's. However, he has never tested positive, and his body has not drastically changed (nor his stats). Until this happens, I am going to give him (and anybody else) the benefit of the doubt. >>





    His stats and body DID change...before he got drafted.


    Whenever anybody says, "he has never tested positive," that is one of the funniest things I ever hear. That test was, and is, an absolute joke.

    Albert, I am still waiting for that public drug test you offered up. >>




    His stats and body changed before he got drafted? THAT is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Don't most men mature and get a little bit bigger between high school and college? It is a natural process for men to get a little bigger after high school.

    Why do you think testing is a joke? Aren't the days of 60+ HR seasons over with now? Haven't a bunch of players gotten caught? Pujols/Kemp/Stanton lead the NL with 31 HR into September, and Bautista/Granderson lead the AL with 38 HR. That puts them on track for 40 something. In the late 90's, those numbers wouldn't have put them in the top 10, probably.

    As far as the public drug test goes, I wish he would do that too. Though I'm not sure about this, but I don't think the player's union would allow it. Could he do it anyway and tell the union to take a hike? Probably.

    Shane

  • GarabaldiGarabaldi Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭
    There is not a team out there that does not wish they had Pujlos on thier 25 man roster. Most MLB players are dinks, give me the one that hits bombs, drives in runs and bats over .300.
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭
    I will never understand the lack of appreciation for Pujols and what he's done. Quibble over him being a top 5 all time great, but he is surely on the path to be a top 10 guy. How many of those are post WW2 players? As for him wanting to get paid like he's the best, wouldn't you if you were him? I am not religious, but just because he is a man of faith who does a lot of charity work, etc, it seems people think he should be a nice guy and basically take less money (from his employers who have more than enough money). He understands his value - no reason he should be stupid about how he is compensated.
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  • NowPanicNowPanic Posts: 128 ✭✭
    Albert's stats back up the fact that he is one of the greatest to play of all time.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,159
    .....big baby. Did you see the way he pouted after the second strike was called in his first at bat last night? He looked at the umpire as if to say, "don't you know who I am?" The pitch was a strike. Then when the next pitch was ball 4, he flipped his bat on the plate as if to show up the umpire. He continued to pout all the way to first.

    You know a team owns you when you're begging to be walked so badly.
  • FrankHardy,

    Yeah, people mature after high school. They also take PED's, especially when they are immersed in the culture of high level baseball...a culture he was and is very much a part of.

    He could have ended it when he offered the public test...but maybe he had something to hide.

    Of course he is going to be a sure fire HOFer, and deservedly so.

    He is just full of S#@t...and when his fans buy into it and treat him like a god, that is the answer as to why a player of his stature gets slammed as much as he does.

    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
    I said Top Five Player of All-Time (future tense of course)... and hell yeah I stand by that statement!

    Here is my biggest problem on the subject of Albert Pujols... I don't respect that man. Personally, I think he's kind of a jerk and uses "God" as a crutch way too many times to justify his selfish actions. It honestly makes me sick. However, I have immense respect and admiration for Albert Pujols the baseball player. What he does between the chalk lines is out of this world. Conversely, I'm equally as disgusted by people who hate on Albert Pujols (the complete person/athlete) because they are jealous, natural born haters, or just plain moronic. I'm sorry, but if you are one that takes the definitive stance that Pujols is a POS while not accepting him as a flawed human being (aren't we all???) and completely discredit his extraordinary accomplishments on and off the diamond... well, you fall into one of those three categories... you absolutely do! Take offense if you want to, I don't care... but face the facts, you're jealous... a hater... and quite possibly a moron as well, it's as simple as that.

    Here are three things I believe to be 100% true about Pujols...

    1) He is not a PED user
    2) He is not the genuine, great, humble human being he's portrayed to be
    3) He will go down as one of the Top 5 players of all-time

    It's hard to see now, because what he does is right in front of us... it's happening now, and it's in the forefront of our mind daily. We don't yet have hindsight to look back from a historical perspective. But think about this... all these many years later, it's almost widely accepted that Jim Brown was quite possibly the BEST football player of all time. Jim Brown's career was even shorter than Albert Pujols' has already been. Jim Brown was so far seperated from the majority of his peers then... and did things and put up a body of stats that were unparalled at the time... sound familiar? Albert has done that and more... in a sport with decades upon decades of more history.

    I'm not here to sit down and tell you that Albert Pujols will go down in history as the greatest ever... better than Ruth, better than Aaron... but to say he won't be in the conversation (and at least Top 5)... is absolutely idiotic.

    Only one player in baseball has ever hit .300+ for a career, and racked up 600+ homeruns, 3000+ hits and 2000+ rbi... Hank Aaron. Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds were the only others to come close.

    Ruth didn't do it in 18 seasons as a position player. It took Hank Aaron until his 21st season to reach those statistical feats. Healthy, Albert should reach all of those milestones during his 17th season. Maybe he'll struggle a little, like this year... and it'll take him until his 18th season to do such. Wow, he still does it much faster than Hank (the only one to ever do such) and he'll do what Ruth couldn't... in the same amount of time!

    As for money... sure he wants it. I hate it, many of you hate it... and I really hate the fact that he'll mask his greed with statements about God, what's best for his family, what gives him the best chance to win, etc. Regardless, the guy is at the tops in a professional sport that dictates outlandish salaries/contracts. If you were the best at your job... wouldn't you want to be paid like it? If you say no, you're lying! Often, I just wish Pujols would take that stance... "I want to be paid commensurate to the player I am." I still get sick thinking about his last contract... and how "God" wanted him to have $100 million... lame!

    But to so passionately hate on Albert, like so many of you do, it's just as despicable... and moronic... and a waste of your own good time.

    Personally, I don't like Pujols the complete person that much at all. But I collect the hell out of his cards. Why the hell not? He's absolutely in that elite class of players that will be historically praised. I wasn't alive in the 60's to "not collect Mantle because he drank too much, smoked too much and was an womanizing prick"... so I'm not about to pass up on collecting Pujols here in the 20-teens!

    Cheers
  • TabeTabe Posts: 5,920 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Future First Ballot Hall-of-Famer... and likely Top 5 Player of All-Time! >>



    not top 5

    ruth,rose,williams,aaron etc the list goes on. >>


    Rose isn't even in the same stratosphere as Ruth, Williams, Aaron....or Pujols.

    Tabe
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,159


    << <i>Here are three things I believe to be 100% true about Pujols...

    1) He is not a PED user
    2) He is not the genuine, great, humble human being he's portrayed to be
    3) He will go down as one of the Top 5 players of all-time >>



    Which of those 3 would have been said about Tiger Woods just 2 years ago?

    Which would be said now?
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here are three things I believe to be 100% true about Pujols...

    1) He is not a PED user
    2) He is not the genuine, great, humble human being he's portrayed to be
    3) He will go down as one of the Top 5 players of all-time >>



    Which of those 3 would have been said about Tiger Woods just 2 years ago?

    Which would be said now? >>



    I'm confused by this question? I would think all 3, then and now.... admittedly, I don't follow golf that closely at all... has Tiger been tied to PEDs and I'm just learning about it now??? Otherwise, I said "not" genuine, humble, etc... thus my confusion!
  • epatmythes,

    You are welcome to believe what you wish.

    Your 100% assertion that he did not do any PED's. That is great you believe in that...but that type of 'blind eye' toward Pujols is part of why people don't give him the credit you seek.

    As for Top Five of All-Time. THat ain't gonna happen.


    He will not surpass Bonds! Of course, what will you say about Bonds to lessen his accomplishments??

    Looking at your logo and what you collect, there is no question bias is entrenched in your evaluations.

    I like how you tried to pick the least offenses of evils that Pujols possesses, and point them out, so that you make it 'look like' you aren't biased toward his PED use, LOL.

    Kind of like the guy who kills someone, and says, "Yeah, I jaywalked. After all, I am human. But I didn't kill the guy buried in my basement floor."

    Also, I have a box of Kleenex for you to wipe the Pujols goo off your chin. Keep the sample, we may find traces of PED use in it.
    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>epatmythes,

    You are welcome to believe what you wish.

    Your 100% assertion that he did not do any PED's. That is great you believe in that...but that type of 'blind eye' toward Pujols is part of why people don't give him the credit you seek.

    As for Top Five of All-Time. THat ain't gonna happen.


    He will not surpass Bonds! Of course, what will you say about Bonds to lessen his accomplishments??

    Looking at your logo and what you collect, there is no question bias is entrenched in your evaluations.

    I like how you tried to pick the least offenses of evils that Pujols possesses, and point them out, so that you make it 'look like' you aren't biased toward his PED use, LOL.

    Kind of like the guy who kills someone, and says, "Yeah, I jaywalked. After all, I am human. But I didn't kill the guy buried in my basement floor."

    Also, I have a box of Kleenex for you to wipe the Pujols goo off your chin. Keep the sample, we may find traces of PED use in it. >>



    "biased toward his PED use"??? I said I don't believe he's used them... where is the bias in that? You seem to believe he does/has/whatever... with zero proof what so ever.

    On the bright side, congratulations, your response helped to clearly identify which of my previously three mentioned categories you fall into.

    Have a great day!
  • You are biased young man, otherwise you would not be able to offer that "100%" certainty claim. Only a fool would make such a claim about a player in this era. A fool, or somebody who is in love with him(and in need of a Kleenex).

    I don't have to offer proof...Pujols does. In fact, HE DID offer it. Except he never followed through with it...because it was simply a smoke screen.

    Pujols's 'accomplishments' are just as questionable as everybody else from this era. So no need to get too excited about his on field accomplishments.

    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You are biased young man, otherwise you would not be able to offer that "100%" certainty claim. Only a fool would make such a claim about a player in this era. A fool, or somebody who is in love with him(and in need of a Kleenex).

    I don't have to offer proof...Pujols does. In fact, HE DID offer it. Except he never followed through with it...because it was simply a smoke screen.

    Pujols's 'accomplishments' are just as questionable as everybody else from this era. So no need to get too excited about his on field accomplishments. >>





    What difference does it make that Pujols never followed up on his offer to take a voluntary test? Aren't MLB players tested twice a year anyway?
  • cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257


    << <i>You are biased young man, otherwise you would not be able to offer that "100%" certainty claim. Only a fool would make such a claim about a player in this era. A fool, or somebody who is in love with him(and in need of a Kleenex).

    I don't have to offer proof...Pujols does. In fact, HE DID offer it. Except he never followed through with it...because it was simply a smoke screen.

    Pujols's 'accomplishments' are just as questionable as everybody else from this era. So no need to get too excited about his on field accomplishments. >>



    Dude, everyone's entitled to their opinions and Eric has told you his reasons for feeling the way he does. Everyone has bias. He is no more bias for Pujols then you are against him. Chill out. You're about to have a coronary.

    And as far as PEDs are concerned: ballplayers have ALWAYS looked for an edge. Popping a greeny before a game was apparently VERY common in the '60s and '70s and I don't here an outcry about the unfair advantage that the extra energy, focus, etc. gave them. It is what it is. Do I agree with it? Absolutely not. But I'm also not going to jump to the assumption that someone is taking PEDs just because they've accomplished something that no one else has. There are people with talent that are clean. I suppose Griffey and Thomas had to be doping because there is obviously no way they could have hit 500 or 600 HRs without it, right?
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  • lanemyer85lanemyer85 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Quotes like "top five player of all time" show some kool aid drinking...and there is a lot of that on here.

    People talking about him being such a 'saint' and using that to show that there is no way he could take PED's.

    Basically, the guys is just as full of S$@t as all the other guys in MLB...you Pujols guys just look at him with blinders, like there is a need to create a messiah. >>



    I have not done that. He's not perfect, just like everybody else. I simply admire what he has done on the baseball field and off the field. It's as simply as that. Let's have a little balance here. HE IS FAR FROM PERFECT!!!!!

    There, now why don't you concede a little bit and say he's a great player.

    I never said top 5. I just said one of the greatest. To argue against that ruins your credibility. No player in the history of the game has started there career with even TWO seasons of .300 avg, 30 HR, and 100 RBI's. He has done it TEN SEASONS. That is just to start a career. Lou Gehrig did it 8 seasons in a row in his prime, Babe Ruth did it 7 in his prime.

    I know what is coming next - "He has to be on PED's"? Were Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig on PED's? Look, I'm not saying that he is 100% for sure not on PED's. However, he has never tested positive, and his body has not drastically changed (nor his stats). Until this happens, I am going to give him (and anybody else) the benefit of the doubt.

    I said all of that to say this - let's have a little balance around here. For him being my favorite player on my favorite team, I think I do have a balanced opinion of him. For most of you haters, all you can do is say something negative.

    (Thought to self: I knew I shouldn't have gotten into this argument - it's a no win situation) >>




    ManRam never tested positive for PEDs either. He was pinched for masking agents. That Pujols hasn't tested positive means about as much as Lance Armstrong's positive tests. We all know players are still taking PEDs as evidenced by Mike Jacobs getting pinched with HGH last week, and a number of minor league players get busted with various PEDs every year, so if these guys making $400 a week have access to PEDs, you can be pretty assured that major leaguers making 7-9 figures with various personal trainers and rogue clubbies have access to them as well. The labs will always be ahead of the coppers and while anabolic steroids/THG etc may be largely gone...at least by those who don't have connections to more cutting edge masking agents, HGH and even newer PEDs like Tek 16 and SARMS (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators - whjch incidentally is higher rated than testosterone) are very much in play. You're free to choose that a generational type of hitter can perform like this in the most difficult era to hit (ie when Ruth played most pitchers had 1-2 pitches max with only fastballs and curveballs, now there are so many more pitch types that the previous generations never had to face - splitters, cutters, circle change, 2 seam tailers, etc and most starters these days throw at least 4, not to mention the specialization of pitching with structured relievers etc) but on the flipside those who don't believe in his "clean" body of work should be free to do so as well as NO player has earned the right not to be questioned. Whether that's Jeter or Pujols or David Eckstein. As for the more subjective arguments. Simple...people despise LaRussa and when McLiar is attached to him...it's not difficult to conclude why people dislike Pujols and the Cards in general...largely due to LaRussa and his constant whining, arrogance, and his erection for bean ball wars. Though Pujols has brought some heat upon himself with defending Bonds and ManRam and some other PED users, and the memorable postgame interview where Glavine and the Mets shutdown the Cards and Pujols came out and said "he didn't really have nothing tonight" despite going 0-4 and having his team shutout. You think about the NL Central alone and the teams within it that have friction...strangely they all involve the Cardinals and it has really nothing to do with on-field success or lack thereof. Brewers & Cardinals have issues. Reds and Cardinals have issues largely stemming from the hatred Baker and LaRussa have for each other...plus the Brandon Phillips/Molina incident and subsequent brawl. Cubs & Cardinals issues flare up from time to time, but usually that's more to do with the respective fan issues...on-field they've died down since Baker left. As I've said before, Cardinals fans are a different breed. Since there is nothing else in St.Louis, Cardinal players are like hockey players in the smaller Canadian cities. They're the athletes/rock stars/actors/celebrities/front page news rolled into one, hence the fanbase tends to be extraordinarily protective of them...just look at McLiar. Everyone knew he was a fraud, yet you guys still give him a position in the organization and standing ovations and believed in his innocence until the end. If you can't understand why people from the outside can't wrap their arms around the type of deification that you guys heap upon the Pujols/McLiar types then I guess this is all mute because it goes well beyond normal fandom. Every fanbase has their fair share of mouthbreathers and morons as we've seen with Dodger fans this year, but only the Cardinals have fans like this
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
    lanemyer,

    Nice post. First and foremost, I too hate LaRussa and agree with everything you said about him... and most about what you said about the Cardinals. In fact, I'm actually a Cubs fan that has been living in the STL area for 15 years (brought here thanks to Uncle Sam). Admittedly, I do suffer from a bit of Cardinalitis though... being around it this long... I guess that's just natural.

    Like I, you seem to know quite a bit about PEDs on an intellectual level. Personally, I said forever that I believed McGwire was a juicer... and Sosa... and Bonds to follow. There are clear traits you see both physically, as well as with attitude and mannerisms.

    This knowledge and familiarization is yet another reason I believe Pujols to be clean. Could I be wrong? Yes, I could be... but I just don't see any signs leading me to believe I might be. Therefore, I will continue to believe he is clean until completely proven otherwise!
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    "Do I watch every game? No. But do I check the box score every single day to see where they're at? Also, no."


    priceless
  • lanemyer85lanemyer85 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭


    << <i>lanemyer,

    Nice post. First and foremost, I too hate LaRussa and agree with everything you said about him... and most about what you said about the Cardinals. In fact, I'm actually a Cubs fan that has been living in the STL area for 15 years (brought here thanks to Uncle Sam). Admittedly, I do suffer from a bit of Cardinalitis though... being around it this long... I guess that's just natural.

    Like I, you seem to know quite a bit about PEDs on an intellectual level. Personally, I said forever that I believed McGwire was a juicer... and Sosa... and Bonds to follow. There are clear traits you see both physically, as well as with attitude and mannerisms.

    This knowledge and familiarization is yet another reason I believe Pujols to be clean. Could I be wrong? Yes, I could be... but I just don't see any signs leading me to believe I might be. Therefore, I will continue to believe he is clean until completely proven otherwise! >>



    hey epat

    We can agree to disagree regarding the last sentence there, but no biggie. More importantly, assuming you have been to Busch/Old Busch/same non-descript Busch for a game...or even the DrinkScotchCenter for a Blues game(if you have, I'm sorry you paid hard earned money to watch the two lines of Cam Janssens they roll out each night), but as a non-St Louis area native, were you made to feel inferior for rolling to the yard/rink sans '87 IROC, muscle car, or monster truck, and dressed like an adult without the traditional Cardinal archetypal attire of jorts/tank-top/Timberland boots? I'm just curious...as I don't like the thought you being cast as an outsider "from up north".
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>hey epat

    We can agree to disagree regarding the last sentence there, but no biggie. More importantly, assuming you have been to Busch/Old Busch/same non-descript Busch for a game...or even the DrinkScotchCenter for a Blues game(if you have, I'm sorry you paid hard earned money to watch the two lines of Cam Janssens they roll out each night), but as a non-St Louis area native, were you made to feel inferior for rolling to the yard/rink sans '87 IROC, muscle car, or monster truck, and dressed like an adult without the traditional Cardinal archetypal attire of jorts/tank-top/Timberland boots? I'm just curious...as I don't like the thought you being cast as an outsider "from up north". >>



    Not so much... it's really changed here a lot over the past 15 years! Those with jobs retired their jorts and now exclusively wear cargo shorts... camoflague preferred. Timberlands are more reserved for the non-100 degree months, then it's flip flops (socks optional, but far too often worn). Plenty still rockin' the tank tops though... or at least old cardinals shirts cut out to look like tank tops!

    Hockey, that's a whole other story! I used to never miss a Blues/Red Wings game, but it wasn't always fun going in my Wings jersey... but I always did. I was always amused and never really realized how much the "Red Wings Sucked" until I moved to the STL area... I mean, it was all I ever heard... yet I think only once in my 15 years could I look at the standings and see the Blues ahead of the Wings!!! Honestly though, it really isn't as bad now as it was pre-strike... then again, with the economy so bad in this area... you can guess where unemployment checks get spent when the decision is a Blues game vs. Meth.

    It's fun to laugh at though... because anybody who's attended sporting events even semi-regularly in St. Louis can attest... it doesn't matter the sport, the St. Louis anthem is "INSERT TEAM NAME HERE Sucks!" So original, and so intellectually appropriate.
  • cwazzy, neither Griffey nor Thomas are above being put in there with the rest of MLB players.

    I personally don't give a rat's arse what they take...I just find it comical how the fans wear blinders to their guys. Sure, McGwire, Bonds, and Sosa had a clear body transformation while they were in the big leagues. Other guys have that transformation starting in high school with the use of PED's.

    If you guys don't understand the use of stuff in high school, especially in the years Pujols was in HS, then you are simply unaware.

    I remember how Bonds fans almost put their first born up that he was not taking anything. Same for all these guys. Some were caught red handed, some not.

    Why does it matter Pujols never followed through? Because he was full of it. He said he would do anything to prove he wasn't taking them, and would do public testing. He never did. Why? I akin it to beer muscles and telling your friends to 'hold you back'. He knew he could always hind behind the union, so he had nothing to lose by saying that. Well, nothing to lose for the people who have blinders on. Others see right through it.
    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • lanemyer85lanemyer85 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭
    yeah I wanted to keep it - good natured ribbing...so I don't bring the meth jokes...but I can't say we're any better with the YOUR TEAM SUCKS meatheadedness as the Hawks/Wings rivalry is still ripe with Detroit sucks chants as well. Understandably so to an extent, as all Norris/Central teams are still envious of the 20 year run the Wings have had. Until Bill Wirtz bit it, I was actually more envious of their ownership/management than the success on the ice to be truthful. That said, I don't think the Lou has changed that much, and having a girlfriend whose maternal family are unfortunate Cards fans originally from Belleville, I make sure when we embark on that grim-death-trek south by tacking a 'Palin for President' bumper sticker to the whip so as not to look too auspicious.
  • PS. The most consistent trait that MLB players have exhibited over the last 15 years, is that they are all liars.

    The most astonishing thing is the fact that fans actually believe anything that comes out of their mouths.

    Curt Schilling, that fat toad, when in congress hearing, totally backtracked from the things he said in the past. This IS the culture of MLB!

    Are you sure about that five minutes!?
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    first baseman
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    $5 PAYPAL gift to anyone that pulls FANDANGO from under his ROCK to give his two CENTS.


  • << <i>$5 PAYPAL gift to anyone that pulls FANDANGO from under his ROCK to give his two CENTS. >>




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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>$5 PAYPAL gift to anyone that pulls FANDANGO from under his ROCK to give his two CENTS. >>



    Does he have that nasty Pujols jockstrap to keep him company under that rock? All signs point to YES!
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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭
    A Prima Donna.Another Joe Di Maggio.In love with themselves.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen Albert since he was a Peoria Chief and can tell you unequivocally that his body type was pretty much the same back then.
    Nothing like, say, a Sammy Sosa, who started out as this skinny kid who looked like a good wind would blow him over.
    I have no dog in this fight though I am a STL fan. I'm just not rabid about it like some here seem to be.
    You people need to get out of your little narrow "it's my team or nobody" mentality.
    I could understand it if you were all like, 12 years old or something... but really-grow up.

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • Albert Pujols plays for the Cardinals. Since this thread is about Albert "Pujlos" I really can't answer much about that person.
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