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FINAL $2104!!! Andre the Giant Wrestling All Stars PSA 9 finally hits ebay POP 1!!!

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  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    David,

    If you are going for it, I hope you get it! I can't think of a more deserving home for this card then yours.

    Good luck!!

    Mike
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  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    I agree good luck. I hope you get it!
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    I'd rather have a centered 8 for a quarter of the cost. Looks pretty oc for a 9
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    WOW!

    $2,104.00
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got out bid.

  • Cograts to whomever won it!!! Big iconic card. I was maxed out at $1411. I didn't think it would hit 2k.

    Big card, I'm jealous, Who won it?
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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    I'm betting that was a shill gone wrong. The winner has a 39 feedback. Sounds a little fishy. Were you the underbidder, Dpeck?
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    Jeff
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Got out bid. >>



    Bummer, man. I've been there.

    Just tell yourself the next PSA 9 will be better looking, cheaper, and it will be yours.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes I was under bidder.

    My target price was $2,000. Bid slightly higher just in case.

    I lost.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    You have two grand and the ability to buy a lot of cards for that kind of dough....your sets are not matched and I hope that there is a nicer PSA 9 that your collection will add in the future. Patience and it could come your way. You have many Pop 1s and by far the best cards from this set.
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  • Sorry you didn't get it Dpeck. At that price you could buy 4 PSA 8's and maybe bump one.
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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    PS- This will bring attention to all the PSA 10s that you have.... you are a winner Dpeck!!!!!!!!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    Wow. I know this card is tough to find with sharp corners since it's the top card in the bag.... But the centering is far from perfect on this. One of those examples of the flip selling for more than the card IMO
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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet, David. I've seen this situation several times before. You'll probably get a second chance offer from the seller in a few days because "the winner decided not to pay". I hope I'm wrong.
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    Jeff
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Dang, I wanted to see you get it.
    Buying US Presidential autographs
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was not thrilled with the centering but wanted the card.

    I am honestly pleasently surprised someone was willing to pay more then me. image


  • Agree with wrestling card. All your Pop 1's just went up in value.
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  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    I just watched Andre's Biography on A&E the other night. Pretty damn good, one of the better ones I've watched.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Andre was one of the coolest wrestlers ever. This dude could put away the beers and the booze!!!

    It wasn't meant to be.


  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Probably never see another guy like Andre as a wrestler...very unique.

    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Anyone have any experience with this seller of the Andre?

    Buyer bought four items in the amount of $316 for 1970 topps football checklist, $3257 for 1972 Puerto Rican Mike Schmidt Rookie, and $3550 for Abdul Jabbar Chamberlain PSA 10 from the seller in the last couple of days...... very little history elsewhere.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not shocked a non wrestling card buyer came in and won. This had all the makings of a big auction.

    I was always concerned even before this surfaced that it would go nuts and end up in the hands of a rare rookie card collector.

  • twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    Don't worry Dpeck. A better PSA 9 will pop. People will see that $2104 and start subbing that card trying to get a 9 or even better a 10! Usually when there are more then 1 the price drops slightly. If a 10 pops and then a couple nines the person who bought that card won't get their $ back if they ever resell. If you weren't happy with the centering then that card wasn't worth it. Buy the card not the grade or holder its in right?
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have 24 Andre the Giant cards.

    This had everything but the centering.


    There are not many more of these in strong condition.


    When I went nuts on the Ric Flair the sub party began. Many said there would be a truck load of sealed sets surface. They don't exist.


    Time will tell about more surfacing but trust me the high prices from a year ago made it clear these were worth subbing.

  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone have any experience with this seller of the Andre?

    Buyer bought four items in the amount of $316 for 1970 topps football checklist, $3257 for 1972 Puerto Rican Mike Schmidt Rookie, and $3550 for Abdul Jabbar Chamberlain PSA 10 from the seller in the last couple of days...... very little history elsewhere. >>



    My conspiracy theory continues.
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    Jeff
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    If you get a 2nd chance offer Dpeck, as much as you want the card, I would refrain....
  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm betting that was a shill gone wrong. The winner has a 39 feedback. Sounds a little fishy. >>



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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I don't think a low feedback means on a member means anything. The person who bought my 1953 Mantle PSA 8 (OC) just paid $2,400 and had a feedback of exactly 44. And was cordial enough to do the deal off Ebay. Now, if the feedback were under 10....
  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Sorry to see you didn't pick this up David, it could be worse, I lost out on a PSA 8.5 Yastrzemski RC earlier in the week that sold for 20% under my snipe (that didn't go off). Here's to finding another Andre!image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image


    I still have this one. I had two and cracked one out that looked amazing.



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    The reason the Andre card is so difficult is for three reasons. Obviously with it being the first card in the cellophane wrapped block it has tremendous pressure on the corners. The second reason is all three of the Yellow cards including the Hulk Hogan and Mil Mascaras are extremely off centered top to bottom and some times side to side. The final reason is the hair on the Andre card. I found the original photo that was used from a program and you will see exactly what I am talking about.

    The example above that I cracked out has razor sharp corners, very strong centering, but the hair is an issue. What held the card back the most was a surface issue that is on the card that is to the left of his name. It is like a small line that is dinged in the card. I really don't know the card word to decribe it but when I did my final review before sending it off I caught it and was totally bummed. This is the nicest PSA 7 Andre you could ever find.



    Here is the Andre photo and the photo used for the Hulk Hogan rookie. I thought this was such a neat item as it captured both of their card images on one program. One of the things that made me so interested in the cards was that the publisher of the cards simply used photos from his magazine and then cropped them into head shots.



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    I am contemplating cracking the BGS 9 from the top out and giving it a try. The obvious delimma is that if it does not come back a PSA 9 I have lost money. I tried to cross it over but it seems you have a better shot of crossing items when you crack them out and give PSA a fresh look.


    I would apprectiate any comments on the first Andre above.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I would exhibit some patience before ever cracking out your Andre...it would be worth sending in for a review.

    Your magazine with the images would look pretty cool signed by Hogan. Ever think of getting that signed?
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  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    Your bgs 9 has way better eye appeal than the psa 9 that just sold on ebay imo. If that got a 8.5 for centerig then the psa one would get a 7 on centering. To me the left to right centering is more important than top to bottom.
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was not thrilled with the centering as I mentioned but I wanted to look up on my wall and see a PSA 9 Andre sitting in the case.

    There are more cards out there and I will just keep searching. I do know for fact there are not many more strong Andre's.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rob thanks for the comment.

    Yes I have considered it but thought it would be better to get the cards signed first. I have 9 cards sitting out in San Diego waiting for the Hogan signing at the end of the month. I cracked out four BGS graded Hogan's with three being BGS 9's. I thought a super strong example of the Hogan rookie signed could fetch some serious cash.


  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    I'd crack and resub both until they came back 9 and 8. BTW, besides the $ factor, I'd rather have your 7 than the 9 that just sold and it's not even close.
  • CWCW Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone have any experience with this seller of the Andre?
    >>



    Yes, have done many deals in the past with PWCC and he is top notch. He is one of the top sellers on eBay (if not the best) that still runs regular auctions. I received a card from him once that had a small wrinkle not mentioned in the description (it was a PSA 4). The seller allowed me to return the card and gave a full refund. He often has many top notch auctions available, but few (if any) of the items are actually his cards (most are consigned).
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Looks like I was pretty darn right on the final price image

    I knew it would go for over 2,000
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Patrick you were very close. Nice call!


  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I noticed Patrick's educated guess as well, good call
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I received a card from him once that had a small wrinkle not mentioned in the description (it was a PSA 4). >>



    That's odd. I thought wrinkles were acceptable for PSA 4's. Without the wrinkle, I am sure the card would have graded higher.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not sure who got it but Andre is no longer a Pop 1, now a Pop 2.

    Let's hope that one finds it way to EBAY.



  • << <i>Patrick you were very close. Nice call! >>



    Dave I can't help wonder what the final price would've been if you'd have 'bid to win'???




    I noticed a stack (maybe 20 or so) of these wrestling cards at a flea market a few weeks ago, sadly they were all well chewed.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Awesome, there is no way that the Andre is a $2100 card now in my opinion, or if it is then at least the leverage is less for the one.... good news. Hope DPeck gets it.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was bidding to win and I am glad I did not. I don't think the Andre will sell for as much as the first but I could be wrong. The natural demand ended at $1800 on the first auction and I think most bidding were thinking it would stay a Pop 1.

    The winner only intended to try and flip it for a profit.

    An Andre The Giant in mint condition is an extremely rare card so I suspect if the second one gets listed it will do well too. I certainly will go after it but not going as high as I did on the first one.



  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully this PSA 9 Andre will be better than the first one, it seemed to me that the Andre was a PSA 9 in flip only as some 8's seemed better than that one. Hope this latest one is a true PSA 9.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I here you Rob! At this point though I have to have one for my set.

    The other one that needs to surface is the Crusher. That card is crazy tough as it came on the back of many of the sealed sets.

    There is one PSA 9 and it must be in a private collection.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Buyer put it on ebay with a reserve and only went to $400 but had a poor title.....
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What happened Rob?


    Edited to add


    I now see what you mean. A terrible title indeed. I bet 25% or less of the buyers looking for Wrestling All Stars saw that auction. It is back up with the same terrible title.

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