Scam Alert bidders beware!
BigRed7
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While searching for items on ebay I ran across this seller- billyd2008 - selling some amazing cards. Check out this array of cards
http://shop.ebay.com/billyd2008/m.html?_trlparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A18rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=2
I Don't know if this link will work, I hope someone with more computer know how can post a link for me.
http://shop.ebay.com/billyd2008/m.html?_trlparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A18rt=nc&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=2
I Don't know if this link will work, I hope someone with more computer know how can post a link for me.
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<< <i>Looks ok to me? >>
Yeah, It sure does, perhaps I'll bid on the PSA 8 or PSA 7 1952 Topps Mantle Rookie!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
"A fool and his money is easily parted."
Well if that doesn't scare you then I don't know what does. He has added 11 cards to this sale since I posted the link, and they end in less than 2 days 18 hours. Good Luck Bid early and often!
<< <i>Can't say if the seller is a scam or not. But looking at his past sales, coupled with these high end cards being listed as 3 day auctions all at once raises red flags, as it should. He just happens to have 2 52 Mantles, along with a 51 and 53, but has only been selling a few cheap lots leading up to this. >>
I'm selling for a good friend of mine a bunch of PSA graded extremely rare cards. He is computer illiterate pretty much. It is what it is. He's paying me $500 or more depending on how well things sell. I will be there with him to send the cards out all at the same time for security purposes and to make sure everything gets sent out perfectly. He doesn't want to be hauling around thousands of dollars of cards obviously. I normally sell low end cards from my collection so if it were me I would be so paranoid I suggested to him to get security to go with or something. Basically all bidding will end on Monday or sooner for all the cards that will be selling. I've seen the general population of his collection. It is an amazing collection! The longest it will take to get the cards sent out will be a week to week and a half. I'm not sure how much every card is worth, so I really don't know a good starting bid for a lot of the cards. It shouldn't make a difference I hope. Upon completion of payment, a positive feedback will be given. Thanks for looking! Happy Bidding!
He's selling the cards for a friend. No, need to worry. I'm sure if he would have pointed this collection of cards to one of the auction houses, he would have made more than the $500 dollars in a finders fee.
<< <i>I think you need to explain what you see, cause no one sees anything but you. Are you saying because a card is graded high it shouldn't be on ebay? People need to chill with calling everything they see a "scam". >>
The reason experienced collectors call this a scam is because 90% of the time it is.
Here's a seller with no experience selling high grade cards, selling them for a "friend" who accumulated an amazing collection no doubt from online sources, yet is computer illiterate? Anyone who has amassed a collection like that would not leave thousands of dollars on the table by letting someone like this sell them.
And the scans have different backgrounds, as they were probably made from different scanners.
Brief three-day auctions are typical, to take the $ and run.
Then he says your card might not ship for 10 days (because we all know how difficult it is to put a graded card in a bubble mailer), so that he can give himself some lead time before the scammed buyers start asking "where's my card?"
But if you still think this is not a scam, I definitely think you should bid and let us know how it turns out
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<< <i>I think you need to explain what you see, cause no one sees anything but you. Are you saying because a card is graded high it shouldn't be on ebay? People need to chill with calling everything they see a "scam". >>
The reason experienced collectors call this a scam is because 90% of the time it is.
Here's a seller with no experience selling high grade cards, selling them for a "friend" who accumulated an amazing collection no doubt from online sources, yet is computer illiterate? Anyone who has amassed a collection like that would not leave thousands of dollars on the table by letting someone like this sell them.
And the scans have different backgrounds, as they were probably made from different scanners.
Brief three-day auctions are typical, to take the $ and run.
Then he says your card might not ship for 10 days (because we all know how difficult it is to put a graded card in a bubble mailer), so that he can give himself some lead time before the scammed buyers start asking "where's my card?"
But if you still think this is not a scam, I definitely think you should bid and let us know how it turns out >>
Well said, thanks. I was just trying to alerting people to the SCAM.
"Bid Early and Bid Often"
I vote SCAM.
The violation of the KISS principle is a pretty clear giveaway.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
This guy takes the cake, when I initially posted at the beginning of this thread he had 97 items up for auction, then it jumped to 108, I just checked again, and he's up to 161 items, and the newly listed ones end in 17 hours.
SCAM ALERT
This is known as “bad luck.”
Neither Crandell, Merkel, Spence, or Fogel have that one yet because it's been sitting in the collection of this guy's computer-illiterate friend, LOL
Don't worry he just added a PSA 8 Bill Dickey 1952 Topps, and this item ends in less than 18 hours.
SCAM ALERT
Maybe Storm can chime in on this if he knows...I'm not sure if PayPal holds money for 21 days on transactions like this...I don't know what the details are, and hopefully this scammer, if he is a scammer, won't profit from any of this. Maybe the scammer is aware of this PayPal "hold period" and maybe not...but if he is aware and realizes he won't likely receive much or anything from PayPal, he will likely try to contact the winning bidders and offer them a discount for paying with a check or money order...he cashes the checks and money orders, and then vamooses.
Until law enforcement finally starts getting serious with these ebay criminals, then this thievery will continue and get worse.
If this is a fact has the listing been reported to ebay. Since we are just speculating here my guess it's a stolen account.
There seems to have been several cases of this lately.
1957 Mays PSA 9 Auction #1 Cert#30884694
1957 Mays PSA 9 Auction #2 Cert #30884694
1962 Gilliam PSA 9 Auction #1 Cert #04037008
1962 Gilliam PSA 9 Auction #2 Cert #04037008
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Nice recall on the cards.
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Mark
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after checking pricing history on several of the offerings, it was just too coincindental that these names kept appearing at the top for the most recently completed sales according to VCP.
i realize that the information may not be completely accurate, but what this tells me is that someone has prepared a rather elaborate scam by gathering pics of stuff that dates back as far as 4 years, perhaps more.....the people who are perpetrating these scams are getting smarter, or at least they think they are.
this will turn into an epic mess.
<< <i>Has anyone ever reported these actions before? >>
lol. there are some here who treat it as a daily helping of meat.
good work, detective.
I made an offer on his 55 Koufax and this was his response:
I really don't know how much a lot of these cards are worth so I'm going to have to reject. I know it will go for quite a bit and that is all. I will pretty much let these go as is in bidding. Thank you though.
Yogi Berra
While EBAY/PP have many folks believing that their algos can
"spot" scammers before they scam, the TRUTH is that both
outfits are almost totally dependent on users to report likely
fraudulent listings. (With the widespread HATRED of EBAY/PP,
the historic "early warning" once provided by such users is
now pretty rare.)
There is NO question that some scams are thwarted by PP-fund
holds and "scored" listing cancellations, but MOST are stopped
when users tip-off the outfits before a listing ends. (The instant
listings should have scored weak; thus, if an algo was going to
poof them, they would likely already be gone.)
Usually, an algo-whacked listing will be poofed within a few hours -
sometimes minutes - of its submission. If it lasts 12-hours, a scam
listing is generally home free; absent a subsequent user report.
Fri/Sat/Sun listings are the most poof-proof for scammers.
............
In MOST pro scams, PP is kept out of the mix AFTER the "sale."
The crooks rely on the lack of sophistication, the greed, and the
dishonesty of the buyers to remove PP - and sometimes EBAY -
from the transaction. Remember, when you are collecting money
for nothing, you do NOT have to convert every fish into payday,
in order to have a profitable scam; if only 10% of the fish fall for
the post-sale pitch, the scammer still makes bank.
.............
The instant scam looks like a jacked account, but it could almost
as easily be a "good" seller gone bad.
Because of the age of the account, there would be no automatic
PP hold; the account is likely verified and has had receiving limits
long-previously raised.
.............
Good catch by BigRed7.
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Only the folks who fall for the "let's finish this deal outside of EBAY"
pitch will lose money.
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Frankly, I don't get it?
<< <i>....Frankly, I don't get it? >>
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Many folks simply lack empathy for internet fraud victims.
"How could they be so stupid?"
"They should have known better."
"It's their own fault."
All typical renderings from the average observers.
Many folks have a need to feel superior to others. Their notion
that "this could never happen to me," allows them to satisfy
that need.
Some folks attack the victims because in their secret place, they
know that preventing/punishing fraud is actually difficult and they
fear that they too could become vics; that fear spawns misplaced
anger against the preyed upon.
Goodwin Reese
billyd2008 reese
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Hurry and bid, the first ten items end in the next 1.5 to 2 hours.
"Bid early and bid often.!"