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If near insolvency of the US government didn't jack the price of silver and gold, what will?

BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
With the dollar falling, and this recent ceiling debacle "solved"lol, can we really expect to see 1700 in the next 12 mos?--------BigE
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭
    broke my crystal ball so i cant help image
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    BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Meant to post on precious metals, oh well------------BigE
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    China becoming the Hunt Brothers of the 21st Century.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BigE, are you saying that the US government is solvent now? Being a simple man, I must ask the question.image
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    I knew it would happen.
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    If they can formulate a long-term plan to create and maintain a budget surplus and eradicate the national debt...

    But I have about as much faith in that happening as I do of winning the powerball.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>If they can formulate a long-term plan to create and maintain a budget surplus and eradicate the national debt...

    But I have about as much faith in that happening as I do of winning the powerball. >>



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    BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BigE, are you saying that the US government is solvent now? Being a simple man, I must ask the question.image >>




    No, but couldn't find a better word to use than "insolvency", what would a better word be Jerry?image--------BigE
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    Remember the definition of insanity?

    As per Einstein

    It fits.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was today thinking about the irony that our credit rating will go down unless we borrow more money. How whacked is that?


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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>I was today thinking about the irony that our credit rating will go down unless we borrow more money. How whacked is that? >>



    Cancel a credit line or a credit card and watch your credit rating decrease!
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was today thinking about the irony that our credit rating will go down unless we borrow more money. How whacked is that? >>



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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    near insolvency is not new. It has been around for quite a while and is priced into most markets that are not "under the influence" of governemnt interference.

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    rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>China becoming the Hunt Brothers of the 21st Century. >>



    without leverage...
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    I think the insolvency is already priced in and got it to where it is now, along the same lines that $1700 isn't far off.
    After getting that new trillion dollar credit card, the stocks may shoot up and gold could dip but that's only a short term reaction.

    Long term the same spending will continue. Any savings or debt reduction is based on expected tax revenue. Last time the expected "surplus" never showed up, the weak economy reduced revenue and "emergency" spending used more money.

    They tell the individuals to save for emergencies but the government budgets for only "happy days".

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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< If near insolvency of the US government didn't jack the price of silver and gold, what will? >>>

    Sure seems to me like siver and gold have already been "jacked up"...and if the government doesn't do something effective about the problem of excess spending and printing money to pay for it which devalues the currency, then silver and gold prices will rise even higher...it's that simple, and that complicated.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If a credit rating downgrade occurs (still very likely), gold will continue to rise. That is just one of many factors. Cheers, RickO
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the price of gold will skyrocket once China officially annexes the USA. They already 'own' us financially.
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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭


    << <i> If near insolvency of the US government didn't jack the price of silver and gold, what will?
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    with an increase in 21% over the last 6 months and 37% over the last 12 mos I don't know what else you could say. The price has been jacked. Gains like this isn't the norm for any investment and this will not continue at this pace all the time, but will as long as Washington doesn't get its head out of its butt. Then again, the voters are the ones who send these people.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, but couldn't find a better word to use than "insolvency", what would a better word be Jerry?image--------BigE

    I was trying to be witty, but fell short (as often happens with me). But it is still pretty weird how the government can bestow more debt on itself and thus become solvent when they are technically bankrupt.

    I do think that most people are going to start learning what fiat currency is all about, in the not-too-distant future.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
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    BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I am beginning to think our government knows its a given that all fiat currencies/countries eventually fail. Its most important to string along the charade as long as possible. Just like a mighty Tree, it grows big and strong, but eventually falls and the cycle is repeated. ---------------BigE
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,992 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> If near insolvency of the US government didn't jack the price of silver and gold, what will? >>



    Perhaps they could buy up large quantities and dump it in the ocean!!!!image

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