Official Group Pack Grading, Closed... We have Poppage!!! Page 6!!

miconelegacy · July 18, 2011 11:21AM

First off, let's get this thing going already huh??? Sorry I have been straight out with my wife, kids, in laws, family, church, work, cards, etc , etc.......

So we have gottena great price on a Group Pack Grading submission. I just got back an email from PSA a little after 8pm. I just wanted to confrim everything in hopes we can get this done in a speedy fashion. Here is the response I recieved when I asked about the best way to send the packs in.

PSA Customer Service via collectors.com to me
show details 8:19 PM (1 hour ago)

Dear Mr. Kelley, The quantity discount applies only to a single bulk order—if you break it up into smaller orders, you will lose the discount. I confirmed with Joe that this policy does apply to your submission as well. To keep track of which packs belong to who, I recommend that you list them on the submission form in sections. (For example, lines 1-10 belong to Bob; lines 11-20 belong to Fred, etc.) It is also helpful if you place stickers on the outside of the pack holders with the line number from the submission form so our receivers enter them in the right order—this is particularly important if the same pack is being submitted by multiple people. I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns. Sincerely, Laura RosenbergCustomer Service ManagerPSA, PSA/DNA(800) 325-1121 x424www.psacard.com

So what we will do is have everyone send their packs to me. I will go through each order and then creat a master order that will indicate who's packs are who's using the sticker format from the master submission form. I will wrap each memeber packs seperately and most
important gently. Then I will wrap your submission around your packs. The Master submission will show just like in the example from the PSA Customer Service rep.

I would like to get this out in the mail by next week sometime, so all packages need to be received around Monday if at all possible.

Our special price to grade each pack is $10 with a 100 pack minimum. This price is only good for packs from 1972 to present. Wax Packs and Cello's.

You can either send a check or paypal me for your amount. As far as shipping let's not worry about that now. I will post how much it costs to ship it there and back once it's all put together. Then there will be an amount of shipping for me to get it back to you. Using USPS and their boxes will be the easiest way for me, and insurance and delivery confirmation will be used.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Take care,

The packs... I'll try to fix the Excel view it has here on the thread when I copy and paste from the Master Submission form.

Quanity Subject Company Year Series Pack Type (Wax/Cello) Card Shown Declared Value Packed/Payment

Nendee Packed/Paypal
1 Base Topps 1977 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1974 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1983 Cello Sandberg on Top X
1 Basketball Topps 1972/73 Wax X
Echocanyon Packed/Paypal
1 Base Topps 1982 Cello Ripken on Top X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1985 Cello McGwire on Top X
1 Base Topps 1976 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1976 Wax X
1 Base Fleer 1982 Cello Ripken on Top X
1 Base Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Base Fleer 1983 Cello Boggs on Top X
1 Base Topps 1981 Cello Ryan on Top X
Miconelegacy Packed/C.C.
1 Base OPC 1972 Wax X
1 Base OPC 1972 Wax X
1 Base OPC 1972 Wax X
1 Base OPC 1972 Wax X
1 Base OPC 1972 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Base Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Base Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1980/81 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1982/83 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1982/83 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1982/83 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1984/85 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1984/85 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1984/85 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
Artislost Packed/Paypal
1 Hockey OPC 1981/82 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1982/83 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1983/84 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1984/85 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1986/87 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1987/88 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1988/89 Wax X
Tsalems1 Packed/Paypal
1 Baseball OPC 1977 Wax Reggie Jackson Back X
1 Baseball OPC 1977 Wax Ryan/Seaver Strk. Ldrs Back X
1 Baseball OPC 1977 Wax Mike Schmidt Top X
Jswieton Packed/M.O.
1 Hockey OPC 1978/79 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1983/84 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1984/85 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1985/86 Wax X
1 Hockey OPC 1986/87 Wax X
1 Baseball Topps 1972 Wax X
1 Football Topps 1981 Cello Walter Payton Top X
CPAMIKE Packed/Paypal
1 Baseball Topps 1975 Cello Robin Yount Back 180 X
1 Baseball Topps 1977 Cello Brett RB Top 60 X
1 Baseball Topps 1977 Cello George Brett Top 60 X
1 Baseball Topps 1977 Cello Nolan Ryan Back 70 X
1 Baseball Topps 1978 Cello Eddie Murray Top 120 X
1 Baseball Topps 1978 Cello Nolan Ryan Top 80 X
1 Baseball Topps 1978 Cello Reggie Jackson RB Top 30 X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello Ozzie Smith Back 100 X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello Mike Schmidt Top 25 X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello George Brett Top 25 X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello Johnny Bench Top 25 X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello Yaz Top/Palmer Back 35 X
1 Baseball Topps 1980 Cello Rickey Henderson Top 100 X
1 Baseball Topps 1983 Cello Gwynn Top/Ripken Back 70 X
CHARLIE9 Packed/Check
1 Basketball Topps 1974 Wax X
1 Baseball Topps 1974 Wax X
1 Football Topps 1976 Wax X
1 Topps Hockey 1979 Wax X
1 OPC Hockey 1984 Wax Wayne Gretzky Back X
BPORTER Packed/Check
1 Baseball Topps 1982 Cello Ripken Top/Kibson Back X
1 Baseball Topps 1987 Cello Bonds Top/Clemens Back X
1 Football Topps 1988 Cello Jackson Top/Jackson Back X
1 Football Topps 1988 Cello Testerverde Top X
1 Baseball Fleer 1989 Cello Griffey Top X
MACROSB Packed/Check
1 Baseball Topps 1973 Cello First Series X
1 Baseball Topps 1974 Cello X
1 Football Topps 1972 Wax Not Sure Series X
1 Football Topps 1973 Wax X
1 Football Topps 1975 Wax X
1 Football Topps 1976 Wax X
1 Football Topps 1977 Wax X
1 Baseball OPC 1972 Wax 1st Series X
4 Baseball OPC 1973 Wax All Card Wrapper X
1 Baseball OPC 1975 Wax X
2 Baseball Topps 1972 Wax 3rd Series X
1 Baseball Topps 1972 Wax Not Sure Series X
1 Baseball Topps 1973 Wax All Card Wrapper X
1 Baseball Topps 1974 Wax All Card Wrapper X
SETHRO Packed/Paypal
1 Baseball Topps 1977 Cello X
1 Baseball Topps 1978 Wax D. Evans on back X
1 Baseball Topps 1979 Cello Fisk on back X
JLEATHERS Packed/Cash
1 Baseball Fleer 1983 Cello Sandberg Top X
1 Base/Foot Topps 1980 Cello Half Baseball Half Football X
MBMILLER25 Packed/Paypal
1 Golf Donruss 1981 Wax X
1 Baseball Fleer 1986 Cello Canseco Top X
1 Baseball Topps 1987 Cello Barry Bonds Top X
1 Baseball Topps 1987 Cello McGwire Top X
1 Baseball Donruss 1988 Cello Alomar Top X

tsalems1 · July 18, 2011 11:27AM

I have 3

jeffcbay · July 18, 2011 11:40AM

Question: how do you normally ship packs securely? For example, we send baseball cards in CS1's and bind them together between two pieces of cardboard (in stacks of 20 or so). I store my cellos in those clam-shell snap cases. Do people normally ship them in those, or is there a different method?

miconelegacy · July 18, 2011 11:49AM

I plan to wrap mine in the thinner bubble wrap, just tight enough to prevent movement. Then thicker bubble wrap around them. I have thought of maybe wrapping each one, one by one. But we all know how they are sent from Steve, I plan to do the same.

I actually like the idea of putting the pack with a toplaoder on the side without gum and into a pack case. Then wrap.

jswieton · July 18, 2011 11:58AM

PM sent

Dboneesq · July 18, 2011 12:29PM

Have a '72 jumbo cello sitting around. Guess it was hiding when I sold most of my collection. I'll see if I can get a couple others together and get them out to you tomorrow. I'll let you know if I find any.

cpamike · July 18, 2011 12:42PM

Hey Mike, I'm in for 14 packs altogether.

My only question is whether you want each person fill out a pack submission form when we send our packs to you to help you create the master list.

Thanks to you and Matthew (Artistlost) for getting this thing off the ground.

miconelegacy · July 18, 2011 1:14PM

Yes I think that will be a good idea for each person to fill one out. I will be labeling with stickers to ensure the packs remain separate.

They could just grade them all a 9? I'll send along a note that Steve said they were all MINT and he doesn't need to inspect them. Should have em back in a couple weeks...I wish.

Hopefully we can get them back at the end of August. That's my guess. I will let Steve know he has a bunch coming his way. I was discussing with someone the other day how many packs he grades a month. My final guess after discussion was around 1,000. I could be way off... Either way he is great to this community with honest grades. I'm siked, especially after seeing Grote's. Those are sweet!

Sethro · July 18, 2011 8:01PM

I am still in for three.

Any shipping/wrapping advice would be appreciated, as I have never shipped packs before.

hockeycrazy · July 18, 2011 8:46PM

Hi,

I am in for 4 or 5 packs. Once again, thanks for setting this up!

Dave

miconelegacy · July 18, 2011 11:09PM

60 confirmed so far, we'll have this sold out in no time.

Couple others getting back to me today with totals.

BPorter26 · July 18, 2011 11:20PM

Mike,

I'm going from 3 to 5 packs.

Thanks
Bobby

EchoCanyon · July 18, 2011 11:22PM

I have 10!

jeffcbay · July 19, 2011 12:22AM

PM'd

miconelegacy · July 19, 2011 12:45AM

Pm'd back!

grote15 · July 19, 2011 11:14AM

Wrong thread, sorry..

miconelegacy · July 20, 2011 3:43AM

WE almost have the 100 needed, and 82 have been confirmed.

BUMP!

hockeycrazy · July 20, 2011 4:28AM

PM'd

EchoCanyon · July 20, 2011 10:07AM

<< I have 10! >>

Actually, found another -- count me in for 11.

miconelegacy · July 20, 2011 10:43AM

Packages are being sent out, echo and salems just confirmed.

I have a few more packs that I can throw in if we have to. But for now there is still room for others to get in.

Rick Probstein at Probstein123 will have some really high end cards going off for auction in the next couple days, and 4 packs of mine just game back from PSA. My first graded packs that I submitted! I am going to sell them so I have some extra cash at the National. They are from the mid 70's, with names like Garvey Morgan and Bench showing. Definitely some 1/1's that I know of. Especially the 78 OPC with stars on front and back.

Let me know if you have any questions about this submission.

jswieton · July 20, 2011 11:23AM

My packs were shipped today. Thanks for setting this up!

miconelegacy · July 20, 2011 11:49AM

You're welcome.

I was thinking, no it didn't hurt. I'll post a master list of packs on here for us all to have, as long as nobody objects to it. No one should feel ashamed for grading your Goonies or Alf packs!! Lol( sorry if you collect)

Still have availability if you want to take advantage of the special grading price. PM me with questions or post on here.

nendee · July 21, 2011 8:33AM

I think it would be fun to post everything going in. Thanks!

artistlost · July 21, 2011 8:43AM

<< I think it would be fun to post everything going in. Thanks! >>

I agree...

miconelegacy · July 21, 2011 9:09AM

I will post mine and Artistlosts tomorrow, and each package as thru come in.

I agree it will be fun and should be a nice variety from what I here. I also here there will be dome 1/1's being sent!!!

Charlie9 · July 22, 2011 6:23AM

Charlie9 · July 22, 2011 6:26AM

Sorry about the double post. Just confirming I'm still in with my 5 packs and will have it in the mail tomorrow!

MBMiller25 · July 22, 2011 6:30AM

I can do 4-5 packs if u need them, but it will be Tuesday/Wednesday before I can get them out. I don't want to hold everything up, so let me know.

Sethro · July 22, 2011 6:36AM

Were we supposed to mail our packs out? I missed that message.

miconelegacy · July 22, 2011 7:51AM

I have some really Awesome news for us on the pack grading.

If you are going to participate in this, I need all packs delivered to my house by next Saturday. That's the 29th. I live in SC, and most states priority is 2 day shipping. If your out west or CA, sometimes it's 3 days.

Miller you are in on this, let me know when they are in the mail.

Sethro you have time, when are you mailing yours and how many?

EchoCanyon · July 22, 2011 8:36AM

Get my package?

BPorter26 · July 22, 2011 8:43AM

Mike,

Sending my packs to you on Monday.

miconelegacy · July 22, 2011 9:42AM

Yes Echo I got your package and am opening now. I also recieved a package from another member, but now sure who. Please PM me if you 5 packs where supposed to arrive today, so I know who you are.

OKay............ Here is the news I have....

I talked with Steve Hart from BBCE, and he going to authenticate for us, if we want all of the packs if I bring them to the National. This is HUGE!!!! I haven't even booked my hotel or flight yet, as I am confirming assistance for my wife and children if I go.

I plan to go, and will be making last minute arrangements over the next few days.

So, if we want, I will either bring the packs with me on board a flight.....should be interesting for a carry on, or have them shipped to Rick Probstein, he doesn't know it yet, but hope he will accept and bring them to the National for us. Steve will authenticate, and give them to PSA who will lock them in their vault or safe and take back to be graded and encased.

Thoughts?????

Edit: Check the first page out, that is how I will be listing the packs. Also please fill out your own submission form when sending the packs, so I don't have to do that. I will be filling out my own, and then a Master for all of us.

I will update maybe later, or tomorrow morning as I have a splitting headache. Have a great night, and let me know your thoughts on bringing or shipping the packs to the National. This will save us weeks on time!!!

Sethro · July 23, 2011 4:27AM

I am still in for three. Kindly send me your mailing address so I can get them out to you!

BPorter26 · July 23, 2011 5:08AM

I think it's a great idea to bring them to Steve and this will save us time and money.

artistlost · July 23, 2011 7:30AM

awesome!!!!

Great news.

MacrosB · July 23, 2011 7:32AM

I am in for 18 if that is ok. I just received my shipping supplies today so should be to you before Saturday.

Jim

miconelegacy · July 23, 2011 9:07AM

Yes that is great!!! This Group pack submission is now closed with Macrosb being the last to join.

Everyone should have my info, if not PM me. I have to hurry and plan my trip to the National now.

MacrosB · July 23, 2011 12:33PM

I have one more question for the grading experts here. I finally found my 74 OPC pack but it has a small tear on on the right side as you are looking at the front (And I mean the side of the pack not that the tear is on the right side of the front of the pack). Probably about 1/8 - 1/4 inch. Should I still send this in to be graded or is it not worth it at this point?

Jim

MacrosB · July 23, 2011 12:35PM

Sorry 1 more question. In 1972 which series are cards 319 and 364 in. I can see themon the front of 2 of the packs I am submitting and I like to list the series. The third one looks like it might be an In Action card so I can't tell who it is. Thank-you for your help.

Jim

grote15 · July 23, 2011 12:45PM

264-394 in 1972 is Series 3.

grote15 · July 23, 2011 12:48PM

I have one more question for the grading experts here. I finally found my 74 OPC pack but it has a small tear on on the right side as you are looking at the front (And I mean the side of the pack not that the tear is on the right side of the front of the pack). Probably about 1/8 - 1/4 inch. Should I still send this in to be graded or is it not worth it at this point?

You are probably looking at a PSA 6 if tear is close to 1/4". 74 OPC is a tougher issue for OPC, probably the toughest of all OPC issues in the 70s with the possible exception of 1970, so it may be worth grading anyway, but personally I'd skip that pack.

MacrosB · July 23, 2011 1:25PM

Thank-you Grote. I will go ahead and leave it out this time and stick with the 18 packs. I can always send it in another time. Now I just need to find a group grading special on 57-71 packs.

Jim

miconelegacy · July 23, 2011 1:29PM

I need that problem.

I have a feeling with all the pack buying and hoarding that goes on we can do another. I am now part of it!

We could probably do a regular pack sub every couple months. Let's get through this one, then plan another in September.

MacrosB · July 23, 2011 1:31PM

<< I need that problem.

I have a feeling with all the pack buying and hoarding that goes on we can do another. I am now part of it!

We could probably do a regular pack sub every couple months. Let's get through this one, then plan another in September. >>

Welcome to the dark side.

grote15 · July 23, 2011 1:36PM

Well, look at the bright side...slabbing your packs in that thick plastic PSA holder will make it that much more difficult to open the pack if you are tempted to!

miconelegacy · July 23, 2011 1:43PM

Very true. Busting regular card slabs, well let's just say I'm not a pro, and have gotten cut on more than one occasion. Haven't opened too many packed slabs....... Yet!

I wonder if I'm just wasting money and delaying the inevitable.

But for now I will hoard with y'all.

miconelegacy · July 24, 2011 1:25AM

Updating with everyone's packs. Working on swieton's now.

I have repacked everyone's with labels. Have filled out a seperate submission form for those that didn't, no worries, and have created a Master submission excel spreadsheet. I copied and pasted it on the first page.

We are going to be way over 100, so I closed anyone else for this submission. This is taking a bit of time, but is fun also, and there are some really great packs so far!!!

I am working on a massive order with Steve, and hope to have by the end of the week, so I can add an addtional maybe 30 or more packs. Hoard!!!!

Take care,

Mike

MacrosB · July 25, 2011 6:20AM

Mailed today. I have a question for you graded pack collectors. How do you store your graded packs? Is there a specific type of box that graded packs (or graded cards even) fit into well? Do you store them vertical or horizontal or does it matter once it is in a graded holder? Thanks for the help.

Jim

jmoran19 · July 25, 2011 7:34AM

<< Mailed today. I have a question for you graded pack collectors. How do you store your graded packs? Is there a specific type of box that graded packs (or graded cards even) fit into well? Do you store them vertical or horizontal or does it matter once it is in a graded holder? Thanks for the help.

Jim >>

the holders are grooved so they fit on top of each other so I stack mine horizontal in empty 500 to 1000 count envelope boxes my wife brings home from work for me. John

cpamike · July 25, 2011 12:44PM

<< the holders are grooved so they fit on top of each other so I stack mine horizontal in empty 500 to 1000 count envelope boxes my wife brings home from work for me. John >>

Very creative way to recycle those envelope boxes. I just have mine stacked in a spare dresser drawer.

Official Group Pack Grading, Closed... We have Poppage!!! Page 6!!

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