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A slight upgrade for my 1871 seated $.

DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
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AU55
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To AU58
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Thank you Dave from CRO!
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    SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the upgrade, but to be honest I like the 55 Better
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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are looking to sell the 55, please let me know.

    Love the original color.

    On both coins, really. Nothing beats originality.
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    barrytrotbarrytrot Posts: 759 ✭
    Sorry but I don't see how that is an "upgrade". The top coin is great looking the bottom one is simply not.
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on the upgrade, but to be honest I like the 55 Better >>



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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Congrats on the upgrade, but to be honest I like the 55 Better >>



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    I also like the first one. Is it for sale? Seriously.

    Tom

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    phehpheh Posts: 1,588 ✭
    Fascinating.

    I also like "the look" of the AU 55.

    That said, if I were asked which coin is in a more original state based solely on these images – I would immediately choose the AU 58.

    My opinion would be that the AU 55 has been cloth wiped at some point and allowed to re-tone. On the other hand, I would posit that the AU 58 when straight from pocket to collection and has remained (more or less) in that pocket state.
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    barrytrotbarrytrot Posts: 759 ✭


    << <i>Fascinating.

    I also like "the look" of the AU 55.

    That said, if I were asked which coin is in a more original state based solely on these images – I would immediately choose the AU 58.

    My opinion would be that the AU 55 has been cloth wiped at some point and allowed to re-tone. On the other hand, I would posit that the AU 58 when straight from pocket to collection and has remained (more or less) in that pocket state. >>



    How original does something need to be?

    If it's PCGS and CAC I think the market would bear out that it is a "good coin" image

    If you reject any coin that has been tilted sideways at some point you will have a hard time finding a coin for your collection.

    There is no way the top coin sells for less than the bottom coin in an auction.
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    phehpheh Posts: 1,588 ✭


    << <i>How original does something need to be? >>



    As original as the prospective buyer desires and believes it to be?

    Other than my personal preference on "the look" of the first coin, I make no claim on the marketability of either coin. I'm simply offering my own opinion on the comparative originality of the two coins in question.
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    JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭
    Glad i'm not the odd one out saying i like the 55 better.
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    KeyLargoRareCoinsKeyLargoRareCoins Posts: 397 ✭
    I like the 55 much better, It appears to have much much more eye appeal then the 58
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    coirncoirn Posts: 500
    The Au55 is a friendly coin. The AU58 looks angry.
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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    The Au-55 coin certainly has more eye appeal but both are nice!
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 55 looks like it got a bump for its color. The 58 looks like an honest grade to me. If the 58 has luster in the protected areas, I think it's the nicer coin.
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could the disparity in opinions here be (to some degree) related to the photos and lighting differences?

    I would bet similar photography techniques on both would make the AU58 seem a lot less dull.

    Drunner
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    canadanzcanadanz Posts: 618 ✭✭
    Perfect example of buy the coin, not the holder. I like the 55 better but wouldn't sneeze at the 58 either. Both nice coins.
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    JamesMJamesM Posts: 757 ✭


    << <i>Could the disparity in opinions here be (to some degree) related to the photos and lighting differences?

    I would bet similar photography techniques on both would make the AU58 seem a lot less dull.

    Drunner >>




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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The 55 looks like it got a bump for its color. The 58 looks like an honest grade to me. If the 58 has luster in the protected areas, I think it's the nicer coin. >>



    Yes , the 58 has luster in the protected areas plus some subtle toning in gold and blue that my pics do not show. image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the original unmolested AU58 better as the AU55 looks dead beyond the secondary album tone.

    The AU58 also has a far better strike.
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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am beginning to be swayed here. I've always liked crusty ant the strike is markedly better on the 58. I almost bought this when it came our on CRO's list. Instead, I opted to wait and I missed out. The description from CRO said "[w]ith a thick skin (maybe the thickest), lustrous surfaces, attractive gold, green and russet toning and looking absolutely nothing like most the dipped, cleaned ....." I'm guessing the 58 looks better in hand than in the photo.

    Tom

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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on the upgrade, but to be honest I like the 55 Better >>



    Me too.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Or maybe those pics suck.imageimage
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    au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad i'm not the odd one out saying i like the 55 better. >>



    How can that be? Everyone knows 58 is better than 55. The OP says this is an upgrade. Why is everyone being so contradictory??
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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I like the AU55 1000x better! The AU58 is actually very unappealing, sorry.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I expect that the Au 58 has a lot more going for it than seen in these photos. I think you have to tilt it around in the light and closely examine it before it reveals its secrets.

    The 55 is nice and really catches one's eye. It photographs well and I am sure would bring a good price in an online auction.

    Digital photography and the internet have made life hard for some really superb coins. That's why we still need people, experts, to examine them and offer us their opinions.
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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure the 58 is a sweet coin, I wonder if the OP is having a hard time picking one keeper ?
    That may be challenging....
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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    both are terrific

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats on the upgrade, but to be honest I like the 55 Better >>



    Agree 100%
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    speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭
    Hmmmm for this date if I were upgrading I think I would go MS63, they are available and not much more than AU.

    That being said, I'm not a huge fan if either unfortunately, especially not for the date... image
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I too like the 55 better... but the 58 is at least two grades better in strike than the 55 (look at the hair).
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The way this thread reads, an upgrade wasn't necessary.

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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Or maybe those pics suck.imageimage >>



    Yes they do.

    Beyond belief!

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    atarianatarian Posts: 3,116 ✭
    If your happy with the upgrade thats all that matters but personally Ill buy the AU55 type coin all day over the 58. Buying the coin not the plastic in this case. Based on the pictures at least.
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