My 19th Century Wrestling Card Collection, ADDED n43 DUNCAN C ROSS

wrestlingcardking · June 22, 2011 4:31PM

1887 Allen and Ginter

John McMahon

Joe Acton

Theo Bauer

Young Bibby

William Muldoon

Matsada Sorakichi

JH McLaughlin

1887 Kimballs
Clarence Whistler

William Muldoon

S. Muller

Duncan C Ross, all around athlete but prominent wrestler

1888 Allen and Ginter n29
Edwin Bibby

Theo Bauer

Duncan C Ross

JC Daly, all around athlete and wrestler

1888 n162 Goodwins
William Muldoon

Joe Acton

Duncan C Ross

Allen and Ginter n43
Theo Bauer

Edwin Bibby

Duncan C Ross

1889 SF Hess (Rarest cards to find period, very very scarce)
Evan Lewis, the original Strangler Lewis!!!

William Muldoon

Jack Carkeek

Joe Acton

Mike Donahue

Prof. Bauer

Duncan C. Ross

Capt Daly

Prof. William Miller

captainthreeputt · June 23, 2011 1:28AM

very nice.

Thanks for sharing.

Brian

divecchia · June 23, 2011 3:24AM

Wow, that's a GREAT collection of wrestling cards from the 19th century...

Donato

scooter729 · June 23, 2011 5:08AM

Some incredible cards, and high grades on many tough series! Great collection and thanks for sharing the scans....

WFFL · June 23, 2011 5:16AM

That is quite a collection of wrestling cards. Finding that old of cards in such great shape is amazing. I am intrigued by the number of people whom collect all these cards (no matter what the sport/nonsport). I am one of them (fb/bskt/bb/tns). My older brother was a wrestler in the 80's-90's. The stories and characters are unreal. Thank you for sharing the cards/photos.

wrestlingcardking · June 23, 2011 7:22AM

Thanks for compliments on the wrestling card collection. I really do enjoy these. My goal is to get the n28 Allen and Ginter cards of the wrestlers in PSA 7 across the board. I'd like to upgrade the n29 Allen and Ginters as well from the two PSA 5's that I currently own but there are few to chose from. The n162s are pretty tough to get in grades better than the 4s that I have. Only a few more on the pop report higher right now. The n184 Kimballs are super tough in a decent grade because the borders are so small. The 6.5 that I have of Whistler is a Pop 1. Would love to upgrade the others.

Toughest cards to find in any grade are the SF Hess cards. The printed checklist and the one used by the PSA registry is wrong. It is unknown the correct number of cards for the entire set. The Joe Acton that I own is not part of the catalogue but he clearly should have been. I have a few cards of other guys who are are part of the athlete set who should not be. These are more expensive and harder to find than even the PSA 7s of the Ginters that I have. If anyone knows how to find n332 SF Hess cards, let me know.

wrestlingcardking · August 27, 2011 12:28AM

Bump for the show and tell thread!

wrestlingcardking · December 27, 2011 11:56PM

Added the scan of my PSA 8 McMahon...... I was able to upgrade from the PSA 5 that I had so that is a huge improvement. I'd really like to upgrade my PSA 5.5 Bauer as that is my only n28 that is in the 5s while the others are higher. This will be a never ending quest.

Saberman · December 28, 2011 1:09AM

<< <i>Added the scan of my PSA 8 McMahon...... I was able to upgrade from the PSA 5 that I had so that is a huge improvement. I'd really like to upgrade my PSA 5.5 Bauer as that is my only n28 that is in the 5s while the others are higher. This will be a never ending quest. >>

You mean there was a McMahon involved in wrestling then too?

WinPitcher · December 28, 2011 1:11AM

WOW!!

Thanks for sharing.

smtjoy · December 28, 2011 1:21AM

Awesome cards, great collection!!!

wrestlingcardking · December 28, 2011 10:54AM

Yeah it is sort of funny that there is "another" McMahon involved in wrestling back in the 19th century. To be honest it did not come to my head but you never know if there is a relation there. I have a SF Hess card of Maurice Barrymore and apparently he is a great grandfather of the actress Drew Barrymore.

Thanks again for the compliments on the wrestling cards. I have a lot of fun with these and they would be some of the last cards I'd ever part with.

Dpeck100 · December 28, 2011 10:55AM

King these are awesome!!! Keep up the good work and post any new finds!!

thenavarro · December 28, 2011 12:45PM

Rob,

Any of those guys still sign TTM??

That PSA 8 is outstanding. Great group of cards,

Mike

wrestlingcardking · December 28, 2011 9:38PM

I do have an autograph of William Muldoon (four cards in the 19th century cards) although my parents were not born while he was alive......I'd like to make a custom with it at some point and get it slabbed. That would be awesome!

Dpeck100 · December 28, 2011 10:33PM

Perhaps this is the wrong thread but post some of your Frank Gotch cards and if you have any of George Hackenschmidt.

The auto idea sounds very cool!

wrestlingcardking · December 28, 2011 10:53PM

Those are my favorite wrestlers to collect...I will make a Frank Gotch thread. There needs to be education on him as a wrestler. His accomplishments are beyond belief and are my most prized wrestling collectibles...thanks for the suggestion.

I will make a custom Muldoon card with his auto some day.

Dpeck100 · December 28, 2011 11:57PM

King that sounds like a great idea. Those are obviously very valuable collectables and he is worthy of his own thread.

I am anxious to see you put one together.

Yankees001 · December 29, 2011 12:43AM

Is John McMahon related to Vincent Kennedy McMahon?

Nice Cards

Dave

wrestlingcardking · December 29, 2011 6:29AM

I do not have knowledge that John McMahon is related to today's Vince McMahon in anyway. Would be a good story though.

forthe4unofit · December 29, 2011 8:41AM

Awesome cards!

Tabe · December 29, 2011 5:05PM

The McMahons are not related.

Great collection!

I hope you don't mind, I've posted the images on a message board I frequent that is dedicated to the discussion of classic wrestling. Generally that means 1950s-80s but I think this qualifies too

Tabe

wrestlingcardking · December 30, 2011 12:26AM

I do not mind your sharing of the scans at all.... the more eyes on them the better. I like to display my collection when I can. Thanks!

Dpeck100 · December 30, 2011 12:27AM

King when you have some time today start a thread on Frank Gotch. I would love to see those cards and here more about his story.

wrestlingcardking · December 30, 2011 1:11AM

I'd like to scan in all my postcards of Gotch and that will take some time....the trading cards are quite easy.......

wrestlingcardking · January 17, 2012 5:49AM

Added Joe Acton today with a PSA 5.5 with none higher. This is even better than the one in Spence's collection right now (PSA 5) so I celebrate those on the rare occasion that it happens....

wrestlingcardking · March 27, 2012 5:11AM

Hello C.U. board-

I have two big additions that I picked up from Fed Ex this morning.....I upgraded two cards.....

n184 Duncan Ross PSA 7 (MC), tiny borders which makes a miscut easier to stomach and an upgrade from my PSA 2. All around athlete and great wrestler of that era.... only a PSA 6 is better than the one that I have in hand now.......

n184 S Muller PSA 6, this is an upgrade from my PSA 3. There is only one PSA graded card better than this six.

I won both of these cards in the Goodwin auction and just picked them up this morning.....these are extremely tough in mid-grade. I'll have to wait to post scans until I get home tonight after coaching wrestling practice. I'd like to get a William Muldoon in a PSA 5 or better than my PSA 3 and should be pretty much done with improving cards from this series. These cards were from a set break from one of the retired sets in the registry on the all time list.

Today is a good day as it literally can be years to find cards in this condition from this set.

wrestlingcardking · March 27, 2012 10:50AM

Dpeck100 · March 27, 2012 11:09AM

Rob these cards are awesome!

You are a true wrestling fan and these early cards are what show the great sport of wrestling!

Please keep your enthusiasm going for these early cards. These are true rarities and a real fan like you deserves to have the best collection.

wrestlingcardking · March 27, 2012 11:46PM

Thanks for the compliments, this is truly the meaning of the word "hobby" and a reason why I still collect after all these years of numerous interests before moving on....nothing really stuck until I found wrestling cards....here is the other that I won

CardAHolic123 · April 10, 2012 4:38AM

Hi,

New to the site. While going through some of my fathers belongings I found an sf hess n332 card (I learned) that appears is not catalogued(?). I can't find it on any list and have learned that with these types of cards that can happen. The wrestlers name is Capt. Daly. on the card. If I'm right and I have a "one of a kind". Whom should be notified it exists? That might be a stupid question but is there an archive company that is responsible for whats out there or is it all willy nilly (willy nilly)? I probably will sell it at some point (maybe ebay) but am unsure until I know what to do before hand.
Thanks in advance, Gary

wrestlingcardking · April 10, 2012 7:58AM

It is not uncommon to find an uncatalogued card from this n332 series. There are few SF Hess in circulation and the previous attempt to catalogue this set was a weak effort. I had my Joe Acton graded and then eventually added to the set registry. I consider PSA adding it to the registry as good enough for me. On the other hand, the previouis attempts to catalogue the set had some errors.... I have a n332 SF Hess card of Maurice Barrymore and he is an actor and great grandfather to Drew Barrymore....he should not be a part of the athletes set. You can also find Thomas Edison in the athlete set which he clearly should not be. The great thing about SF Hess cards is that you do have a one of a kind item on the other hand it is so obscure that it limits collectibility as it is virtually impossible for someone to build the set or even a subset in any condition. I would have some interest in your card as I am aware of who Capt. Daly was. I do not consider him to be a prominent wrestler but he did have some wrestling in his background. Thanks for posting. I'd love to see a scan.

wrestlingcardking · April 10, 2012 1:15PM

Turn on your PM, I would consider making an offer on the card.

CardAHolic123 · April 11, 2012 1:08AM

Hi, Thanks for the responses. I am a comic collector so I understand the supply and demand part. Here is a pic. The image on the card is a bit faded but they all are from what I can see.

CardAHolic123 · April 11, 2012 1:13AM

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wrestlingcardking · April 11, 2012 9:18PM

Very cool card, thanks for posting.

wrestlingcardking · April 14, 2012 12:37PM

I picked up the JC Daly n332 SF Hess card today so I am just awaiting to get it in the mail.......Hess cards are quite rare.I'd love to be able to find one of the other wrestlers on my want list.

wrestlingcardking · April 14, 2012 1:48PM

Thought the site http://www.wrestlingdata.com was pretty cool to see how wrestlers have fared since the 19th century

wrestlingcardking · June 29, 2012 7:14AM

I have two nice additions to the lot.... N28 PSA 7s of Matasada Sorakichi and PSA 7 of Theo Bauer.... now only JH McLaughlin is below a PSA 7 for my n28 collection of wrestlers. McLaughlin is a PSA 6 so I am not too far away. Just got these in today. The search continues.......

wrestlingcardking · July 30, 2012 1:09PM

Been looking for this card for years and finally got it.....I think I missed my last chance almost six years ago......only one graded by PSA

wrestlingcardking · July 30, 2012 1:47PM

Any SF Hess wrestleir I get is a White Whale, check out the pop reports to see why.......stoked on these as they were all around athletes with some recorded wrestling matches with Duncan Ross having more recorded matches...........

Pop 1 Capt Daly

Pop 1 Duncan C Ross

wrestlingcardking · August 5, 2012 2:15PM

Added this one to my 19th century collection, SGC 50 (4) Duncan C Ross

wrestlingcardking · November 10, 2012 12:24AM

Thought Knapp would llike these as well. I continue on this quest for upgrades slowly.... :-)

KNAPP · November 12, 2012 1:30PM

Rob, you have some fantastic cards. Thanks for sharing. I posted a few pics from my collection. The Duncan pic was used on the Ginter cards and the Farmer is 16 x 20.

wrestlingcardking · November 19, 2012 2:35AM

My dream would be a original Farmer Burns card but one has never been discovered to date.........

wrestlingcardking · January 12, 2013 11:55PM

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SumoMenkoMan · January 13, 2013 2:48AM

I was curious on what Catch as Catch Can Wrestling was so I popped over to Wikipedia (I'm still amazed that the self-policing mechanism of Wikipedia is so effective). Pretty interesting read on this era of wrestling. Great pick up!

wrestlingcardking · January 13, 2013 9:44AM

Thanks! Not too often am I able to add a nice card to my 19th century wrestling card collection. The grades are a bit higher in my collection than I originally intended! :-)

eagles33 · January 13, 2013 12:17PM

im always amazed to see cards over 100 years old in that kind of condition.

eagles33 · March 28, 2013 9:14AM

It's not quite 19th century but couldn't find another thread it belonged in. Wrestlingking convinced me I needed this one. Just scooped it up

My 19th Century Wrestling Card Collection, ADDED n43 DUNCAN C ROSS

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