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Really hate people who don't ship to FPO

Won an auction on ebay and lo and behold they don't ship to FPO. It was stated in their ad and I just didn't read all the way through. They requested a cancellation and I did cancel because it is plainly stated.

But it really disturbs me when people don't ship to FPO addresses. Is it that hard to fill out a customs form? Heck I'd pay an extra dollar or two.

John
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Won an auction on ebay and lo and behold they don't ship to FPO. It was stated in their ad and I just didn't read all the way through. They requested a cancellation and I did cancel because it is plainly stated.

    But it really disturbs me when people don't ship to FPO addresses. Is it that hard to fill out a customs form? Heck I'd pay an extra dollar or two.

    John >>



    Delivery confirmation is not available to APO or FPO addresses.
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    pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭

    It may have worked for you but It sure did not work for me and I ended up on the short end of the stick. Sorry, but no more for me.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Give me their coordinates and I'll lock them into my next launch package! imageimage

    Edited to add: You may want to let them know that you're in Japan and not at a remote FOB/COB in the Middle East. It may make a difference. We used to receive packages from the States in 3-14 days... some sellers may be too concerned to ship their items in a war zone. Will the USPS insure packages hit by stray rounds? image
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    from the stories of ex-military roommates and classmates, I don't trust the military services. While none told horror stories of military mail, the other services had enough horror stories that I don't trust military mail with valuable items. I'd rather take a chance and mail it to a regular address in Japan for you.

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    JapanJohnJapanJohn Posts: 2,030
    I first came overseas in '96. Military mail was a wreck.

    But its a whole new world with computers and bar codes and scanners. I haven't had a beef with FPO shipping in ages.

    I personally find it offensive when I'm stationed overseas for the US government and can't get a widget because someone won't ship here.

    Was just trying to buy a graded 2011 Silver Eagle for my collection. Just one. What a disappointment.

    John
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>from the stories of ex-military roommates and classmates, I don't trust the military services. While none told horror stories of military mail, the other services had enough horror stories that I don't trust military mail with valuable items. I'd rather take a chance and mail it to a regular address in Japan for you. >>



    You might want to find new roommates... I've never had anything stolen while in the military. I can't say the same for Corporate America. image

    Edited to add: As long as the military fights and dies overseas... we'll be the red-headed stepchildren. If and when a war comes to our soil, people will start embracing us. It's politically correct to pretend to care about the military... but very few truly care (aside from friends and relatives).

    Edited to edit to add: A seller will lose a dozen shipments in the US and blame the USPS... but if and when they lose ONE shipment to an FPO, the military is F'dU! Sometimes I just don't understand my fellow Americans logic! image
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    "It was stated in their ad and I just didn't read all the way through"




    << <i>I first came overseas in '96. Military mail was a wreck.

    But its a whole new world with computers and bar codes and scanners. I haven't had a beef with FPO shipping in ages.

    I personally find it offensive when I'm stationed overseas for the US government and can't get a widget because someone won't ship here.

    Was just trying to buy a graded 2011 Silver Eagle for my collection. Just one. What a disappointment.

    John >>



    Why not find a seller that does ship ?
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    17 of my 21 years was spent overseas (12 in Japan) and never had an item coming or going missing! Many of these shipments were coins.

    Bill.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Why not find a seller that does ship ? >>



    Then this thread wouldn't have been initiated and we wouldn't be able to enjoy our banter and diatribe! image
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>from the stories of ex-military roommates and classmates, I don't trust the military services. While none told horror stories of military mail, the other services had enough horror stories that I don't trust military mail with valuable items. I'd rather take a chance and mail it to a regular address in Japan for you. >>



    You might want to find new roommates... I've never had anything stolen while in the military. I can't say the same for Corporate America. image

    Edited to add: As long as the military fights and dies overseas... we'll be the red-headed stepchildren. If and when a war comes to our soil, people will start embracing us. It's politically correct to pretend to care about the military... but very few truly care (aside from friends and relatives).

    Edited to edit to add: A seller will lose a dozen shipments in the US and blame the USPS... but if and when they lose ONE shipment to an FPO, the military is F'dU! Sometimes I just don't understand my fellow Americans logic! image >>




    I bent over backwards trying to help a guy in Iraq get a digital camera. I wasn't up to shipping mil mail, and those that were charged an arm and a leg for the item. I eventually turned him on to a factory refurbed one from the Manu. for a reasonable price and would ship APO/FPO. He was quite pleased with that solution.

    It's not a matter of support as much as it is a matter of fear of loss and fear of the skilled CYA tactics that can be employed with ""missing items.""
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>17 of my 21 years was spent overseas (12 in Japan) and never had an item coming or going missing! Many of these shipments were coins. >>




    I may reconsider.

    I'll have to look into the whole del conf. / sig. conf. thing.


    I'm small and need my seller protection.


    I can't afford to eat an uninsured loss.

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    JapanJohnJapanJohn Posts: 2,030
    I take full responsibility for not reading through the ad. I rolled up on an auction that was a few hours from ending and saw a way to save maybe $10 over what the Buy It Now's are going for. I just bid and won.

    This is just a vent. That seller does plainly state that they don't ship to FPO in their ad. So I cancelled the auction immediately at their request.

    I just hate not being able to get simple goods and services because I'm stationed outside the US. As the other poster stated most people are Pee Cee about loving the military (I'm a civilian GS employee) but few really do. Right after the yellow magnetic ribbon on the car there isn't much love. BTW. The money for the yellow magnetic ribbons goes nowhere near the military.

    John
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>from the stories of ex-military roommates and classmates, I don't trust the military services. While none told horror stories of military mail, the other services had enough horror stories that I don't trust military mail with valuable items. I'd rather take a chance and mail it to a regular address in Japan for you. >>



    You might want to find new roommates... I've never had anything stolen while in the military. I can't say the same for Corporate America. image

    Edited to add: As long as the military fights and dies overseas... we'll be the red-headed stepchildren. If and when a war comes to our soil, people will start embracing us. It's politically correct to pretend to care about the military... but very few truly care (aside from friends and relatives).

    Edited to edit to add: A seller will lose a dozen shipments in the US and blame the USPS... but if and when they lose ONE shipment to an FPO, the military is F'dU! Sometimes I just don't understand my fellow Americans logic! image >>




    I bent over backwards trying to help a guy in Iraq get a digital camera. I wasn't up to shipping mil mail, and those that were charged an arm and a leg for the item. I eventually turned him on to a factory refurbed one from the Manu. for a reasonable price and would ship APO/FPO. He was quite pleased with that solution.

    It's not a matter of support as much as it is a matter of fear of loss and fear of the skilled CYA tactics that can be employed with ""missing items."" >>



    I completely understand... I trusted all my peers with live ammo in a firefight... but if they wanted to borrow my camera, it was always a very definitive "NO!" image

    P.S. I'm not joking about the camera! image
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I personally find it offensive when I'm stationed overseas for the US government and can't get a widget because someone won't ship here. >>

    You find it offensive that a private party won't ship to an FPO? Why?
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    JapanJohn... Have you ever looked at this website?
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    JapanJohnJapanJohn Posts: 2,030


    << <i>JapanJohn... Have you ever looked at this website? >>



    Yeah I've seen that. Never used it. Don't know anyone that has. Usually don't have a lot of trouble getting things but I've noticed that more and more Amazon is getting worse. All manner of electronics and such they won't ship to FPO. I'm just about done with them as well.

    The only business that does not ship to FPO that I will do business with is Apple. Even though they don't ship to FPO they now sell their goods in the military exchanges.

    I think I'm just getting old and grouchy.

    John
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i don't have a problem shipping to APO/FPO addresses. It's as safe as sending it across any town U.S.A.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>JapanJohn... Have you ever looked at this website? >>



    Yeah I've seen that. Never used it. Don't know anyone that has. Usually don't have a lot of trouble getting things but I've noticed that more and more Amazon is getting worse. All manner of electronics and such they won't ship to FPO. I'm just about done with them as well.

    The only business that does not ship to FPO that I will do business with is Apple. Even though they don't ship to FPO they now sell their goods in the military exchanges.

    I think I'm just getting old and grouchy.

    John >>



    The young kids are grouchy too! image It's just a sad realization when you deploy overseas to fight for your Country and then learn the truth that your Country is back home and that you're now on your own. I've experienced the military and Corporate America in the 80s, 90s, 00s and now the 10s, so it's nothing new to me. AAFES does a decent job of getting the necessities to the AOR and friends and relatives do a good job of sending the missing items... however, every so often when you lose a friend, get injured or just a little depressed, it'd be nice to feel like someone cares (after all, their commercials tell the American public they care!).
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    greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I think I'm just getting old and grouchy.

    I know that feeling. I think the thread title is a little over the top. You may be frustrated with but I don't think you really hate people who won't ship to FPO.

    Did you try WTB on BST? Your known here so I'm sure that if someone had what you need they may be willing to ship to FPO.

    If the worst thing that happens to me on EBAY this year is that someone won't sell me something I want, I'll be pretty durn happy. At least I won't lose any money that way. I'm constantly on guard for the scampsters who WILL cost me money with their fraudster tricks!

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you can buy on line without using ebay.

    Most will ship to FPO, but not all.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,730 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I completely understand... I trusted all my peers with live ammo in a firefight... but if they wanted to borrow my camera, it was always a very definitive "NO!" image

    P.S. I'm not joking about the camera! image >>




    I know.

    Two things I've noticed about the military personnel I've interacted with:
    1. Don't touch my stuff!
    2. All are highly trained in working systems (positively or negatively). It seems that part of the "on the job" training isn't in the manuals, but is universally taught anyway.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As soon as the customs label goes on it becomes what I call a "steal me" sticker.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I completely understand... I trusted all my peers with live ammo in a firefight... but if they wanted to borrow my camera, it was always a very definitive "NO!" image

    P.S. I'm not joking about the camera! image >>




    I know.

    Two things I've noticed about the military personnel I've interacted with:
    1. Don't touch my stuff!
    2. All are highly trained in working systems (positively or negatively). It seems that part of the "on the job" training isn't in the manuals, but is universally taught anyway. >>



    The military is identical to sibling rivalries... they're constantly at odds with one another, but if you mess with one of them, you've started a fight with all of them! image They’re the tightest relationship you'll ever experience... it's amazing what the realization of your own demise will allow you to accomplish! Sports teams may develop teamwork, but the military has developed the consummate teamwork. Of course, I'm mainly talking about combat troops... the military is a dichotomy of the general populace, so those that never experience combat won't have the same realities…
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have sent items to APO/FPO address and never had a problem.

    If you guys on the forum need a transhipper on a limited scale cantact me via PM.

    Retired USAF Loadmaster the guy who had to sign for the mail for about twenty years.
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, if I had a graded 2011 ASE, I'd let you buy it. Post a WTB on BST and you should have one within a day.
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    dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I've shipped to FPO without any problems at all.
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    PinkFloydPinkFloyd Posts: 1,762


    << <i>

    << <i>17 of my 21 years was spent overseas (12 in Japan) and never had an item coming or going missing! Many of these shipments were coins. >>




    I may reconsider.

    I'll have to look into the whole del conf. / sig. conf. thing.


    I'm small and need my seller protection.


    I can't afford to eat an uninsured loss. >>



    This is the boat I'm in as well. I've heard too many horror stories. But I may reconsider next time I sell something.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As soon as the customs label goes on it becomes what I call a "steal me" sticker. >>



    Custom label to an APO or FPO address? Never heard of such a thing....

    Btw. Although you're not covered under PayPal protection, I still ship to military addresses and have never encountered any problems...same rate as US Domestic Mail, but w/o delivery or signature confirmation options.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>As soon as the customs label goes on it becomes what I call a "steal me" sticker. >>



    Custom label to an APO or FPO address? Never heard of such a thing....

    Btw. Although you're not covered under PayPal protection, I still ship to military addresses and have never encountered any problems...same rate as US Domestic Mail, but w/o delivery or signature confirmation options. >>



    Some locations do require them.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>As soon as the customs label goes on it becomes what I call a "steal me" sticker. >>



    Custom label to an APO or FPO address? Never heard of such a thing....

    Btw. Although you're not covered under PayPal protection, I still ship to military addresses and have never encountered any problems...same rate as US Domestic Mail, but w/o delivery or signature confirmation options. >>



    Some locations do require them. >>



    Interesting, I did not know that...Those locations must be handled not by the military personnel, but by the host countries postal service.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭
    Recommended Mailing Dates to APO/FPO Addresses

    APO/FPO addresses generally require customs forms. To see an online table of updated APO and FPO addresses and mailing restrictions by individual APO/FPO ZIP Codes, Click here, select “Pull-Out Information” and click on “Overseas Military/Diplomatic Mail.”
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    If an APO or FPO is located within the United States, they don't require a Customs form; if they are outside the United States, they require a Customs form. Makes sense, huh? image
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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I first came overseas in '96. Military mail was a wreck.

    But its a whole new world with computers and bar codes and scanners. I haven't had a beef with FPO shipping in ages.

    I personally find it offensive when I'm stationed overseas for the US government and can't get a widget because someone won't ship here.

    Was just trying to buy a graded 2011 Silver Eagle for my collection. Just one. What a disappointment.

    John >>



    John- I agree with you, BUT i will not ship anything without delivery confirmation anymore. I have shipped over 1000 packages over the years and the only claims have come from 4 or 5 that did not have delivery confirmation.

    I would ship to FBO,APO or whatever as long as it is not ebay related.
    Mark
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    AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, if I had a graded 2011 ASE, I'd let you buy it. Post a WTB on BST and you should have one within a day. >>



    If I had one I'd be happy to sell it to you. I agree, a quick BST posting and the coin problem should be solved. The frustration hopefully quelled by knowing your forum friends have your numismatic back.
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