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Would you rather have a HOFers multi-player "Rookie Stars" card or solo 2nd year card?

scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭
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Would you prefer to have a stars actual rookie card if it's a multiplayer card or have their 2nd year card which is only them?

Examples:

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Let's not talk about Traded sets or Donruss/Fleer, just Topps. And yes, I'm aware Munson isn't a HOFer.
2.5 is pretty much my speed.

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  • CrazyMind2017CrazyMind2017 Posts: 1,205 ✭
    Both
  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Multi-player "Rookie Stars" for me...

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭✭
    Multi-player rookie. By a mile.
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  • jimmygjimmyg Posts: 139 ✭✭
    There's a lot of lore that goes along with having someone's 'rookie,' but I love that '64 Rose.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    with Ripken it's close because of the 82TT

    otherwise, RC all day, three times on Sunday
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  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    I much prefer the player's first major solo card in every case except for Nolan Ryan (I have no good reason for that exception). In particular, I think the multi player RCs of Rose, Dawson, Murphy, and Raines look awful.

    In your Ripken example, I think that using his 82 TT would be more appropriate.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rookie card in any format without a doubt!


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  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    whichever card is worth more, ie....rookie card.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    I rather have the true RC whether it is multiplayer or not.
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  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I much prefer the player's first major solo card in every case except for Nolan Ryan (I have no good reason for that exception). In particular, I think the multi player RCs of Rose, Dawson, Murphy, and Raines look awful.

    In your Ripken example, I think that using his 82 TT would be more appropriate. >>



    i agree 100%. for some reason i like the ryan rookie.. but really don't like other multi player cards like Rose's rc. Unfortunately i don't have choice for my rookie card collection. the ripken is a tough call though. I've been debating on which card to use for my rookie card collection.
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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭


    << <i>whichever card is worth more, ie....rookie card. >>



    thats where Ripken throws a monkey wrench into the equation as the Traded is "valued" at about three times more then his Rookie
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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    How about this twist, for those RCs that it applies to.....

    Topps vs O-Pee-Chee

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  • tigerdeantigerdean Posts: 910 ✭✭✭
    What about the 72 and 73 Ron Cey Rookie? imageimageimage
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...Or the Dale Murphy 77 and 78 multi-player rookies?


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  • scmavlscmavl Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...Or the Dale Murphy 77 and 78 multi-player rookies? >>



    I started to post that one earlier as well. TWO Rookie Stars cards? C'mon Topps. Same with Cey.
    2.5 is pretty much my speed.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    isnt Pinella on THREE different years of multi-rcs? lol
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  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Good job Eric. image

    Sweet Lou had a 1964, 1968, and 1969 mulitplayer card although he only had to share with one other player each time.

    My question is, what happen to the 1965, 1966, and 1967 Pinella RC's Topps? image
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  • Cokin75Cokin75 Posts: 243 ✭✭
    Ed Arbrister from the 70's Red Machine was on three of these as well. '72, '74 and '75.
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    heck, Chipper AND Jeter were each on a multi-rookie AFTER being on their own! lol
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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The key word for me is "have". I think most multi-player rookie cards are ugly. For investments of course the multi-player cards shown here are more valuable, but if I sell them then I wont "have" them anymore. The Munson 2nd year card is a beauty.
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  • PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    I really have no interest in value. I like cards. If all I cared about was value, I'd go invest in stocks or CD's. I prefer the multiplayer cards for the nostalgic value. I look at a guy like Pete Rose and I think "There was a point in time that the all-time hit king was of no more importance than Ken McMullen and a couple other guys". Same goes for Willie Stargell, Mike Schmidt, or a number of others. It is just so fascinating that Topps would lump guys together and one of them would achieve so much and the other(s) so little. Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers. The odds of it happening in 1975 were probably pretty good. How easy would it have been to have Fred Lynn and Jim Rice on the same card? Or Hernandez and Gary Carter?
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers.

    Good point. I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel, who some say at least deserved some consideration for the HOF.


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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭


    << <i>Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers.

    Good point. I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel, who some say at least deserved some consideration for the HOF. >>




    but yes, at this time there are no multi-rc's that feature more then one HOF member on it

    Koosman had a great career, but not HOF worthy

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  • RoarIn84RoarIn84 Posts: 859 ✭✭
    I just wish that in 1978 Topps would have had individual team rookie stars like in later years. I dream of a Tigers 'Future Stars' card with Trammell, Morris, Whitaker and Parrish on it!!!!

    I have always hated the fact that Topps would repeat rookies from the base set in their traded sets, i.e. Ripken, Raines etc.... Why??

    and yes, no matter what you prefer, you can't deny the '71 Munson. Probably the sweetest card Topps ever produced and is far more sought after than even his rookie!! I love that fact!!
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers.

    Good point. I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel, who some say at least deserved some consideration for the HOF. >>





    The '80 topps Bird/Magic is the most famous multi rookie card of all time if you consider the "star power".
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers.

    Good point. I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel, who some say at least deserved some consideration for the HOF. >>




    but yes, at this time there are no multi-rc's that feature more then one HOF member on it

    Koosman had a great career, but not HOF worthy >>





    Not true. image
  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭✭
    true rc

    if older than 1970 I may do both
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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.......I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel........... >>



    I'd pick Cecil Cooper on the Carlton Fisk multi player rookie card, but that's just my taste. Trammell or Cooper is a coin flip.
  • mexpo75mexpo75 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    True RC. If he was one of my favorites, I'd want his first individual also.
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  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    I think most like the look of the solo 2nd year card better but if they could only "own" one they would choose the rookie card.
  • Yankees001Yankees001 Posts: 1,496 ✭
    Rookie card.

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  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Very rarely did multiple players on the same card turn out to have nice careers.

    Good point. I'd say one possible exception was the 78 Molitor RC which also featured Alan Trammel, who some say at least deserved some consideration for the HOF. >>





    The '80 topps Bird/Magic is the most famous multi rookie card of all time if you consider the "star power". >>



    by their own definition, the 80/81 Topps Basketball cards are intended to be "separated" into three once opened!
    at least thats what we did as kids LOL
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  • StickNutzmanStickNutzman Posts: 119 ✭✭
    As others have said I think it is neat to look back at the days when HOF-worthy MLB talent was somewhat unsure, to the point that rookies got jammed together onto one card. I'm sure Jerry Koosman had no issues with his rookie card selling upwards of $1k a few years ago. image Compare that with the gawk fest we have going on now with Harper and the like, who get to have 100 variations of their pre-rookie card (and SIGNED, no less) before they even hang their jersey in a major league locker room. The "RC" emblem that MLB came up with is WORTHLESS. In my opinion, Topps should go back to the days when players got cards after at least making it to the bigs. 30 years from now, if all the stars align and Harper is on his way to the HOF, which card gets treatment as his rookie? The 2011 Bowman refractors? Or the 2012 (or 13) Topps card? I suppose Topps will keep churning them out as long as people keep buying them.
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  • EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Koosman had a great career, but not HOF worthy >>



    Many years ago (before the Koos went to jail on tax evasion) he said in an interview that his kids and grandkids on had his second year card because they couldn't afford his rookie one -- shared with Ryan.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    I assume by the wording that you are only talking about modern Topps cards

    if so, I would go for door #3... the first non-Topps card issued. who want common "everyday I see 3 dozen for sale" mass produced cards (ie every single Topps card from 1952+)

    Id rather have the oddball regional issue that many have never owned and some have never seen. those cards are far more special and not every Tom, Dick, and Jesus can have one... not enough of them to go around....... unlike modern Topps cards.


    ie using Johnny "SoVeryOverrated" Bench for an example..... Id rather have the two 1968 Meat cards, the Kahn's Hotdogs and the Partridge Meats cards, far more interesting and hundreds of times rarer!!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The ignorance around here astounds me at times.
    Good for you.
  • benderbroethbenderbroeth Posts: 1,699 ✭✭


    << <i>The key word for me is "have". I think most multi-player rookie cards are ugly. For investments of course the multi-player cards shown here are more valuable, but if I sell them then I wont "have" them anymore. The Munson 2nd year card is a beauty. >>



    agreed it depends on the card, i also like the ryan rookie better than his second card
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