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eBay user kngldwg, you just lost 4 sales

Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭
I would have bought 4 of your BIN coins; but, you have me blocked from bidding for reasons unknown to me. Although I realize that people on this forum sometimes reflexively block people for frivolous reasons or when feelings get hurt, I've never personally encountered a block before. Your loss.
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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
    fyi, maybe he blocked you because you post???
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    A public display due to having your feelings hurt.
    The mere fact you would have your tightie whities bound up in a bunch so as to be motivated to post this thread, throwing down an eBay'er by name confirms the seller made the correct decision.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    Feedback too low?

    Too many bid retractions?

    Too many negatives?

    Blacklisted on this or another forum?

    There must be a reason?
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Feedback too low?

    Too many bid retractions?

    Too many negatives?

    Blacklisted on this or another forum?

    There must be a reason? >>



    Sometimes people get self righteous in threads here and block people without good cause. See above for an example for just such a reaction. I have excellent feedback on eBay as both a buyer and a seller.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A public display due to having your feelings hurt.
    The mere fact you would have your tightie whities bound up in a bunch so as to be motivated to post this thread, throwing down an eBay'er by name confirms the seller made the correct decision. >>



    No offense; but, I find your reasoning to be absurd. I started this thread for two reasons: (1) an attempt to clear up any misunderstanding that might exist with the eBay seller in question, and (2) to point out that overreactions based on forum posts are counterproductive.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>fyi, maybe he blocked you because you post??? >>



    I feel confident that you are correct. Seems like a silly way to [not] do business.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe you got blocked because of this thread.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe you got blocked because of this thread. >>



    If so, I'd consider that a poor way to do business, but, to each their own.
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    << <i>Maybe you got blocked because of this thread. >>



    Confirmation the OP seller did the right thing.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe you got blocked because of this thread. >>

    Or this one.
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    CalebCaleb Posts: 739


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    << <i>Maybe you got blocked because of this thread. >>

    Or this one. >>



    Seems like some people reap what they sow. Good for the eBay seller! image
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    JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036
    Not trying to be wise but i wonder how many sales were made due to the free advertising image
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Maybe you got blocked because of this thread. >>

    Or this one. >>



    That's funny. I've done repeat business with the seller mentioned in that thread since then. Apparently that seller isn't thin skinned and doesn't block people at the drop of a hat.

    If forum members want to block people at that drop of the hat, that's their business. However, they should realize that it will eventually cost them sales.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not trying to be wise but i wonder how many sales were made due to the free advertising image >>



    That's certainly possible. I have no grudge against the seller in question; so, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I would have PMed the seller, rather than starting this thread, had I known the forum member's handle.
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    Some sales just aren't worth it, if the person has a problematic past I would block them and roll the dice and let someone else buy them. It didn't cost him a sale, it cost him 4 sales a few hours ago, I have no doubt the coins will move, you're not the only buyer on ebay.
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    JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036
    No worries , just wondered.Some nice coins there.Couldnt you PM through ebay ? I thought if blocked it's not possible but ive found thats not the case cos i blocked a chinese bidder and still getting messaged.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's certainly possible. I have no grudge against the seller in question; so, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I would have PMed the seller, rather than starting this thread, had I known the forum member's handle. >>


    Then how about a thread that says "eBay user kngldwg - if you are a forum member, please PM me."

    And leave it at that.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some sales just aren't worth it, if the person has a problematic past I would block them and roll the dice and let someone else buy them. It didn't cost him a sale, it cost him 4 sales a few hours ago, I have no doubt the coins will move, you're not the only buyer on ebay. >>



    I don't have a problematic past as either a buyer or seller on both eBay and the BST.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>That's certainly possible. I have no grudge against the seller in question; so, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I would have PMed the seller, rather than starting this thread, had I known the forum member's handle. >>


    Then how about a thread that says "eBay user kngldwg - if you are a forum member, please PM me."

    And leave it at that. >>



    Smart idea. I didn't happen to think of it.
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    Perhaps considering the prior two threads you have started in the past, the seller figured you had a greater possibility of being an unhappy customer and that is seems pretty clear that if you were, you would post it publicly? Seems like the block on you wasn't thought of as losing a sale but rather saving some grief?
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Perhaps considering the prior two threads you have started in the past, the seller figured you had a greater possibility of being an unhappy customer and that is seems pretty clear that if you were, you would post it publicly? Seems like the block on you wasn't thought of as losing a sale but rather saving some grief? >>



    It's easy to misjudge people. I believe I've returned exactly one coin in the last few years from all sources combined.
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    The threads tell the story, misjudge to some, spot on to others. The seller felt it important enough to add you so why bring this here, on the forum? What did you expect, you did no work on trying to contact and correct this before bringing it here? Airing laundry on the forum vary rarely ends positively as you can see. How many more blocked list do you think you have been added to in the last few hours??
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image

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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't have a problematic past as either a buyer or seller... >>

    Nobody thinks they're a problem buyer/seller, but obviously, such people exist.

    Example: I have a coin listed on eBay at 2/3 current catalog value. I received an offer this morning- 15% of catalog, which I declined. I received a second offer of just under 1/3 catalog along with the comment "I'm not looking to pay retail". I thanked him for the offer, declined it and added him to my blocked bidder list.

    I'm sure he's a good guy and all, but I'm not interested in getting involved in a transaction with him. So- I lost a sale? Okay. I can live with that.
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image >>



    This one or the two others image
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image >>



    Honestly, I couldn't care less how this thread turns out. I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. Anyone who wants to kiss off my business is welcome to do so. They're only hurting themselves.
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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    In your opinion.
    Good for you.
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    If you spend close to six figures and are a hot buyer, why do you care one seller blocked you, we are not talking about heritage, which did ban me over a misunderstanding but I didn't sit around a complain about it or say "your loss", it seems to me you wanted these coins bad enough to come on here and out them that it is indeed your loss, not the sellers. I have been blocked by an idiot seller on ebay and I just moved on, found a better coin at a better price, such is life.
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    SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you spend close to six figures and are a hot buyer, why do you care one seller blocked you, we are not talking about heritage, which did ban me over a misunderstanding but I didn't sit around a complain about it or say "your loss", it seems to me you wanted these coins bad enough to come on here and out them that it is indeed your loss, not the sellers. I have been blocked by an idiot seller on ebay and I just moved on, found a better coin at a better price, such is life. >>



    I won't give these coins a second thought. They were far from must have items. However, I would like to see the civility of the forum improve. The group-think-pile-on mentality is better suited for junior high school students rather than adults with common hobby interests. Several of the posts in this thread, and the referenced threads, add absolutely nothing to the discourse. Despite my distaste for the posts of these people, I still wouldn't block them on eBay.
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    << <i>I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image >>



    Honestly, I couldn't care less how this thread turns out. I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. Anyone who wants to kiss off my business is welcome to do so. They're only hurting themselves. >>

    You should worry about your business and let the seller worry about his(or hers). To come crying on a public forum like you did and have in the past is petty and spiteful, and speaks volumes.
    not an expert,just well informed.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The group-think-pile-on mentality is better suited for junior high school students rather than adults with common hobby interests. >>

    If every poster on this thread had agreed with you, would you still have made this particular comment?
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    So if everyone looks at the facts given and makes their judgment and they happen to all fall in line with you being wrong it is a group pile on? So when 70-80% on Americans think the economy in in the tanker and the president is helping it is a jr. high, wolf pack pile on? If you can't take the criticism, don't post. I am done with this thread and done with you here and on ebay.

    However, I would like to see the civility of the forum improve

    I saw no one be un-civil, just state their opinion, where and when was the un-civility?

    better suited for junior high school students rather than adults

    Usually it is high school kids who post crying and whining, adults, confront the problem head on, with the person involved, not bring it to public forum, this reminds me of the new kids, with braces and the popular guys getting on facebook starting this or that.

    PCGS GRADES WRONG!
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    WOLFPACK- How dare you, you, you, you bunch of children! I'll take my close to 100k else where, that will teach ya'll, all of you............... you have been warned not to block the bidder or else you will be financially Kaput!
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    TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942
    masochism
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. >>

    Ohhhh... sorry- I missed this. You have lots of money to spend on coins? Where's that a$$-kissing smiley when you really need it, anyway? image
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    ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image >>



    Honestly, I couldn't care less how this thread turns out. I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. Anyone who wants to kiss off my business is welcome to do so. They're only hurting themselves. >>



    WOW close to $100,000 a year on coins? Do you also have a stack of Morgans 12 inches tall? image
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭
    In my best "Dark Helmet" voice...

    "You have the coin. And I see that your wallet is as big as mine. Now, let's see how well you handle it."

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ah, Spaceballs - one of the few movies I've watched multiple times. image
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ah, Spaceballs... >>

    Unfortunately, I couldn't think of any good "Blazing Saddles" tie-ins. Couldn't have posted much of the script, anyway. image
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So if everyone looks at the facts given and makes their judgment and they happen to all fall in line with you being wrong it is a group pile on? So when 70-80% on Americans think the economy in in the tanker and the president is helping it is a jr. high, wolf pack pile on? If you can't take the criticism, don't post. I am done with this thread and done with you here and on ebay.

    However, I would like to see the civility of the forum improve

    I saw no one be un-civil, just state their opinion, where and when was the un-civility?

    better suited for junior high school students rather than adults

    Usually it is high school kids who post crying and whining, adults, confront the problem head on, with the person involved, not bring it to public forum, this reminds me of the new kids, with braces and the popular guys getting on facebook starting this or that.

    PCGS GRADES WRONG!
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    no
    no
    maybe

    WOLFPACK- How dare you, you, you, you bunch of children! I'll take my close to 100k else where, that will teach ya'll, all of you............... you have been warned not to block the bidder or else you will be financially Kaput! >>



    Hyperbole is not your strong suit. No hard feelings though.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I'm guessing this thread didn't turn out like the OP was expecting.image >>



    Honestly, I couldn't care less how this thread turns out. I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. Anyone who wants to kiss off my business is welcome to do so. They're only hurting themselves. >>

    You should worry about your business and let the seller worry about his(or hers). To come crying on a public forum like you did and have in the past is petty and spiteful, and speaks volumes. >>



    I disagree with your characterizations. It wouldn't stop me from doing business with you though, lol.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>The group-think-pile-on mentality is better suited for junior high school students rather than adults with common hobby interests. >>

    If every poster on this thread had agreed with you, would you still have made this particular comment? >>



    No. I've stayed out of many threads where I though people's behavior crossed the line. My thoughts about civility are nothing new.
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    I've got to say...whether I agree with the OP or not, the OP is handling this situation decently professionally. I've seen threads like this where the first page is "ok" but then the pages after that turn into a giant cluster-fudge of BS comments going back and forth. OP, I'll hand it to you, you've demonstrated a bit of professionalism if you look at it in black and white. However, making this thread (and two others that have been linked here) kind of takes what I just said and throws it out the window - in a grayscale world.

    My opinion? You should have contacted the seller who blocked you and asked why. Not posted it on a forum. Who even knows if they are a forum member here? Kind of spiteful (as other(s) have said) and lacking a bit of maturity.

    Regardless, good luck in your ventures and hopefully you send some of that "almost-$100k" over to me!

    Cheers!

    PS: Also hope you get this issue resolved with the eBay seller. Whether it be in you giving up and moving on or the seller unblocking you.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


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    Honestly, I couldn't care less how this thread turns out. I'm far from the biggest fish on this forum; but, I spend close to six figures on coins every year. Anyone who wants to kiss off my business is welcome to do so. They're only hurting themselves. >>



    WOW close to $100,000 a year on coins? Do you also have a stack of Morgans 12 inches tall? image >>



    There's a place for sarcasm in the world. This forum is not that place.

    I'm going to bed. Perhaps we can collectively revisit the topic of civility some other time. Goodnight all.
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    Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My opinion? You should have contacted the seller who blocked you and asked why. Not posted it on a forum. Who even knows if they are a forum member here? Kind of spiteful (as other(s) have said) and lacking a bit of maturity. >>



    eBay would not let me send the seller an email, otherwise I would have. I couldn't find a handle for the seller on this forum, otherwise I would have sent a PM. My intention was not to be spiteful, but merely to let the seller know that he was disadvantaging us both for what I suspect is no good reason. Good night.
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    << <i>My opinion? You should have contacted the seller who blocked you and asked why. Not posted it on a forum. Who even knows if they are a forum member here? Kind of spiteful (as other(s) have said) and lacking a bit of maturity. >>



    eBay would not let me send the seller an email, otherwise I would have. I couldn't find a handle for the seller on this forum, otherwise I would have sent a PM. My intention was not to be spiteful, but merely to let the seller know that he was disadvantaging us both for what I suspect is no good reason. Good night. >>



    Ah, I must have missed that part. Oh well, at least you tried. Night!
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>The group-think-pile-on mentality is better suited for junior high school students rather than adults with common hobby interests. >>

    If every poster on this thread had agreed with you, would you still have made this particular comment? >>



    No. >>

    So it's only a group-think-pile-on when a bunch of people disagree with you? Okay then. image
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    MrScienceMrScience Posts: 784 ✭✭✭
    md kng ldwg? image

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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭
    I dont know what you may have done, but ill ask him next time I see him in our local B&M. And no, he is not a member of this forum and he is a nice guy, his name is Randy.
    Derek

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