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Old poured bar question - Is this an Engelhard?

OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I purchased this old poured 3 oz bar on ebay this morning. The seller believes the bar was produced by Engelhard and I do as well. The only catch is that the Engelhard logo is nowhere to be found.

I added the last photograph for reference since it shows a similar bar stamped Engelhard.

I am wondering if this bar could be anything other than Engelhard. I'm inclined to believe someone just forgot to apply the Engelhard stamp. Comments are welcome.

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NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonder if engelhard fabricated products for other people. I don't know much about them, but the bars are so similar that it is either definitely an engelhard...or definitely made to look like an engelhard. It's not random or a coincidence.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sure looks like an Engelhard bar but good luck trying to convince a buyer when it's time to sell. I like that toning by the way.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    It sure looks like an Engelhard bar but good luck trying to convince a buyer when it's time to sell
    image No sense in buying something that would be a hard sell if/when that time comes.
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  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It sure looks like an Engelhard bar but good luck trying to convince a buyer when it's time to sell. I like that toning by the way. >>



    Agreed - convincing someone the bar is Engelhard might be impossible. However this 3 oz bar is destined for the special stash I'm not likely to ever sell.

    The toning is a nice bonus. Fortunately NT vs AT isn't an issue with bullion bars.
    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
  • TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942 ✭
    I don't like the fact that there is no makers mark, even if genuine.
  • tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    Looks like it to me.

    If you have any young kids borrow their playdough to make an impression with the known 3 oz englehard and see well the unmarked bar fits into the impression.
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    how can it be an engelhard with no mark?, e or engelhard?
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  • sebrownsebrown Posts: 424 ✭
    Sure looks convincing, and a very nicely toned bar too! Manufacturers error possibly?
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unlikely an error Engelhard bar, even if it is, you can't proof it. 3 oz bullion bar in my books that should be assayed just to make sure.
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  • SilverBaronSilverBaron Posts: 767 ✭
    Yes, it is an Engelhard ........ and a VERY RARE bar. image

    Remember ........ Even the U.S. mint slips up and lets errors out.

    (By the way ....... You beat me to it by a matter of seconds!!)
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have bought this in a heart beat at a premium............MJ
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  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, it is. VERY RARE.

    Remember ........ Even the U.S. mint slips up and lets errors out.

    (By the way ....... You beat me to it by a matter of seconds!!) >>



    Silver Baron, Thank you. Your opinion settles this for me. image

    About a month ago I missed a 7 oz Engelhard BIN listing that lasted 3 minutes by just 5 seconds. image

    I appreciate your posts cataloging old poured bars. I treat them as essential field guides.
    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
  • AgBloxAgBlox Posts: 744 ✭✭


    << <i>Yes, it is an Engelhard ........ and a VERY RARE bar. image

    Remember ........ Even the U.S. mint slips up and lets errors out.

    (By the way ....... You beat me to it by a matter of seconds!!) >>



    What he said. Wish I would have saw it. I can't believe David wasn't certain of it.
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