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Really Neat Counterstamped 1796 Large Cent

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
Date a little hard to make out, but the counterstamp is fantasic IMHO.
I Need better pics.
What do you think?


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Found this in a 2006 auction listing


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  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,828 ✭✭✭
    Wonderful! I love the cursive font.


  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    That is a really neat coin. I'd love to know the history.
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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    That's a very nice counterstamped coin. The script is to die for. Looks like it might be two silversmith marks, one being a hallmark.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing! It reminds me of the handwriting on those old postcards-- the kind that only had to read:

    Joshua Smith
    Oak Street
    Fridley Minnesota

    and yet still made it to the address. image
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smitty, is that a counterstamp or is it engraved?

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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Smitty, is that a counterstamp or is it engraved?

    bobimage >>


    definetly a couterstamp
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that looks pretty neat image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting.... bet that could be researched... Cheers, RickO
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The following are listed:

    H. WHITCOM
    H. WHITCOM / 1831
    H. WHITCOM / 1833

    I guess we can now add H. WHITCOM/ 1827

    Interesting that these are dated.
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  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    It is unknown who this issuers was or where they were located, so if anyone runs across more info it would be welcome to the counterstamp collecting community.

    I own the 1817 Bust Half C/S example that is the Brunk plate coin. It is stamped with "?. WHITCOM/ 1827-6" just like the OP's example (the 1st letter is not visible on my example).

    Brunk has a listing of "1827.6 / A. WHITCOM". I believe that they all should be listed as "1827.6 / H. WHITCOM". I am unsure of any examples that show an A instead of an H.

    This listing includes 1806 & 1827 large cents with this stamp, so we can now add 1796 to that list.

    I also own the only example on a Spanish Colonial 1 real that reads: "H. WHITCOM / 1831"

    So, the "H. WHITCOM" examples are most likely all "H. WHITCOM / 1827" even though he does have a seperate listing of just "H. WHITCOM" .

    However, I may be wrong in this assumption as Rulau also has seperate listings with the "A. WHITCOM" & the "H. WHITCOM". he further states that the "H. WHITCOM" has "July 1827" as part of the stamp. It is unclear if this is actually 1827-7 or if it actually says "July" (Although the earlier listed "A. WHITCOM" is listed as"A. WHITCOM 1827.6")

    We really need to have all the known examples pictured to be sure what is out there.

    QN



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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is unknown who this issuers was or where they were located, so if anyone runs across more info it would be welcome to the counterstamp collecting community.
    I own the 1817 Bust Half C/S example that is the Brunk plate coin. It is stamped with "?. WHITCOM/ 1827-6" just like the OP's example (the 1st letter is not visible on my example).
    has a listing of "1827.6 / A. WHITCOM". I believe that they all should be listed as "1827.6 / H. WHITCOM". I am unsure of any examples that show an A instead of an H.
    This listing includes 1806 & 1827 large cents with this stamp, so we can now add 1796 to that list.
    I also own the only example on a Spanish Colonial 1 real that reads: "H. WHITCOM / 1831"
    So, the "H. WHITCOM" examples are most likely all "H. WHITCOM / 1827" even though he does have a seperate listing of just "H. WHITCOM" .
    However, I may be wrong in this assumption as Rulau also has seperate listings with the "A. WHITCOM" & the "H. WHITCOM". he further states that the "H. WHITCOM" has "July 1827" as part of the stamp. It is unclear if this is actually 1827-7 or if it actually says "July" (Although the earlier listed "A. WHITCOM" is listed as"A. WHITCOM 1827.6")
    We really need to have all the known examples pictured to be sure what is out there.
    QN >>

    .

    Do the other examples have the HW counterstamp below the H Whitcom one ?
  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    Do the other examples have the HW counterstamp below the H Whitcom one ?

    No, that is a seperate stamp that could have been applied by either Whitcom (who ever he may be) or any other person with those initials and a prepared punch. We really don't know anymore than that at this point.

    The Bust half you posted is the one I own.

    QN

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  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    In looking further at your piece, it looks like yours says" H. WHITCOM / 1827-1", it could be "1827-7" though.

    How sure are you that it is a 1796 Large cent? I am not sure that it is...

    QN

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's about the coolest counterstamp I've yet seen. Qnut's posts are intriguing.
    Any idea who the mysterious Whitcom is?
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful work! (whom ever did it)
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>In looking further at your piece, it looks like yours says" H. WHITCOM / 1827-1", it could be "1827-7" though.

    How sure are you that it is a 1796 Large cent? I am not sure that it is...

    QN >>



    I was wondering the same thing, looks more like 1800 from the pics.
  • Sounds like the original Where's George. I could only imagine how cool it would be to run across one of your coins that you stamped back in those days.
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  • UNLVinoUNLVino Posts: 416
    Wow, so many coins to learn about, so little time! That is friggin FANTASTIC!
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a scan if you look close you see a 796

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