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Hi, I am new here and this is my 1st post. My father left me his coin collection when he passed away in 1987 and untill now I just couldnt deal with it so it stayed in a box. Well to make a long story short I bought a few books and opened the box and there is just so many old coins I really dont knoe where to start. Some are in books most are loose and in baggies. It is mostly silver coins and the whole box weighs over 35 pounds. I am overwhelmed and really do not know what I should do 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I dont want to take them to a dealer, we live in a smallish town in the southwest and I dont trust anyone with them. Any GOOD advise out there????
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi and welcome.
    Just a quick first question.
    When you say old, exactly what years are you talking?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Don't touch any of the coins with your fingers, preserve them the best you can.

    Group up the coins by type.

    Research one type at a time.

    Have fun.

    Have you decided to keep them? Or are you trying to price them?
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1St image Next shut your PM off next look up some old post and see what to do 1st. keep posting have fun,Tye2.


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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Don't clean them!!!

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    They'll be plenty of good advice for you here.
    Welcome and good luck.

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do NOT clean the coins, no matter how dirty you think they look or how much you think you might improve them. You will not.

    Buy a copy this year's edition of "A Guide Book of United States Coins", commonly called the Red Book.

    Start reading and learning.

    There are other books you should buy too...but the Red Book is a good start.
  • razzlerazzle Posts: 993 ✭✭✭
    I'll add my welcome. What you mention about the box of coins is overwhelming for a non-collector. It would be an overwhelming amount of work even for an experienced collector. I would say that step 1 is to sort the coins by type (dimes, nickels, quarters, etc.) get a 2012 Redbook (available for about $10) and begin to get a sense of values. If you can get a picture posted of any coins of special interest, experts here have been extremely helpful to me in the past.

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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621
    First thing you need to do is figure out which ones have value and are scarce or rare. The others which maybe just common silver you might want to sell to your local coin dealer, silver prices are good and you could come home with just as much or more money then you would selling on here or on Ebay which would include shipping fees.

    The more rare coins would be good to list here first and then Ebay second. Ebay will really give you an idea of what people are willing to pay at the moment.

    Hope this help's it's the best advice I think your going to get.
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  • I did buy the 2011 redbook and the book Grading Coins by Photographs, but even that has my head spinning. I have over 100 silver dollars, Morgans,Peace and Eisenhowers. Over 200 Half dollars, about 50 + Liberty Walkers, 50 + Franklins and the rest are 64 and 65 Kennedys in rolls and some loose. There are silver quarters and so many loose mercury dimes I did not count but he had 3 rolls of them marked Save. Aprox two handfulls of buffalo nickels and smaller bags of war nickels and lots of pennies. Please excuse my decriptions as I am not a collector and I am just learning. I know not to clean or wipe them or touch them with bare hands. Should I put each silver coin in a cardbord 2x2 or what? Is the plastic hurting the loose coins? I dont know how to store them either.
  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621
    Bottom line is if you want more money your going to have to shift through each one and find the good dates. Your red book would be a good start.
    The fast quick money and sounds like you could come home with a good chunk of money is to just unload it for silver at your local shop. If you have a good dealer he may look for the good dates for you if any exist. Sounds like you having a hard time, but hey do you want your money these are your options if you ask me.
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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621
    If you do choose to use Ebay. I would put your buffalo nickels and cents in small groupings maybe 5 to 12 and stick them on Ebay with the dates listed.
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  • ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    Probably good idea to go get some plastic coin tubes in the denominations you'll need, along with a few pair of cotton gloves (every coin store should have these on hand). Check your local paper for any coin clubs in your area, find out when they meet, then go (don't take the coins with you just yet).

    The plastic from the baggies shouldn't hurt the coins, but putting each one in a 2X2 will be tedious, and could potentially damage the coins more than they might already be, banging around in a bag as they are. The coin tubes should minimize the damage until you can get through the bulk of them in smaller bites.

    Odds are, if they're as you described, your coins are likely already pretty worn (aka, circulated). Unless your father had already protected certain coins by housing them within these cardboard flips, you likely aren't going to do any damage that would hurt the coins, as long as you are careful in handling them.

    As others have noted, the Red Book is a good place to start, and of course, learning to grade will be your task. Since the coins are probably already circulated, you can start be learning the mid-range grades, such as XF to AU. A good book to help you here is "The Official ANA Grading Standards for U.S. Coins" (6th Ed.). Nothing's perfect, but it can help you to narrow your assessment of the potential grade of your coins, some of which you may want to set aside in flips to better preserve their condition.

    There is much good advice in this forum, and I've found members most helpful and encouraging. Congratulations! You're off to a good start.

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  • Rob85635Rob85635 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the biggest question you should ask yourself is are you interested in collecting coins or do you just want to find out the best way to dispose of your father's collection?


  • << <i>1St image Next shut your PM off next look up some old post and see what to do 1st. keep posting have fun,Tye2. >>




    Turn it on not off so people can give you some advice on the value and maybe rarity on some of the coins. dont let anyone try to take advantage of you price wise. Do your own research on each type of coin.
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  • pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920
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  • Thank You so much for your advise. I am relieved to know I can and should put them in the plastic tubes as I didnt want to mount each silver coin. If I come across any that I think may have a value or need help with the grade I will post pictures. In the mean time I will be lurking and learning. Thanks again!
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Pictures would be great (even a breakdown such as Morgan/Peace silver dollars, Walking Liberty/Franklin/Kennedy halves, Standing Liberty/Washington Quarters, Mercury/Roosevelt dimes would be helpful).
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...i agree with steve above. and you should put up pics or scans of your coins to help us give you some more

    advice. and image to the boards.
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  • I know this is not the way to show coins. Please dont hate. I will be going through them for single pictures. I am overwhelmed but I will get through it lol Any thoughts?

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  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty Toes.....

  • what do you mean pretty toes?
  • oh ok i get it.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    on the first picture it shows your feet.......I think the previous person has a foot fetish imageimage j/k

    Great pictures! Now what you should do is put some of the coins like the morgans in groups of ten and take closeup pictures. People on the forums can quickly let you know if they are rare dates but with the redbook you can also look that information up,
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The odds are 1000:1 that you don't have anything more valuable than silver in there. If you're overwhelmed, then just put a huge list up on ebay or the BST here and sell it off. You'll get a premium for it being unsorted that will compensate you for the chance you're giving up.
  • questor54questor54 Posts: 1,351
    With silver being as high as it is, you will do well to post most of your silver here on the Buy-Sell-Trade (BST) Forum in lots with pictures. It would probably also be fine to take it to a local dealer, but check around to a few of them to make sure you are getting a decent multiple of face.

    Bottom line, it sounds like you don't want to put in a lot of time and effort on this, so you are probably going to make less money on it than if you worked hard to figure out what you have. That is just a fact of life. Collections like the one it appears you have often don't have a lot of rare and valuable individual coins.

    Or, you may have already had a bunch of PM responses here to help you or buy your coins. Whatever you do, as HRH would say, "have fun with your coins!"
  • Yes I plan on doing that. I feel a little foolish here because most of you are experts but when I take close ups I will post on a new thread. Thank you again for your comments.
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    The first question that should be asked is the intent for the collection. Is your primary goal to sort and organize the collection or is it to sell? If the answer is sorting then by denomination and design type would be adequate. If ultimate intent is to sell but you don't trust the buyer in town then inevitably the collection will have to shipped or shopped around out of town. Regardless of how comprehensive the photos are, a hoard of coins as shown in the pictures will likely require an in-person inspection.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty Toes..... >>



    I knew somebody was going to make that comment. Just didn't think it would be so fast, especially not the very first thread after the pictures post.

    A creepy bunch most coin guys are.
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  • I guess my intention is to find out if any of this has some real value. If it is junk coins then I need to know that also. I would like to know what the value is first before I decide if it is worth selling or keep for another 20 years. I will stick with it, my Father deserves that.
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well you picked the right time to open up that box. Silver is near all-time highs which is not insignificant as the "junk" coins are worth about 2.5x what they were worth a couple years ago.

    You will not be led astray here if you continue to provide photos and read all of the replies given.

    What I also know is that the photos you've provided so far tell me this thread could easily surpass 100-200 replies if you so desire and are willing to put the time in to continue posting detailed photos as requested. The collection your father left you will likely not turn out to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but could easily be worth thousands or tens of thousands depending on the specifics of the coins included.

    Enjoy the hobby if you desire...I picked the hobby up 20 months ago after my father passed away, and have become quite passionate about it in the meantime.

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  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    I am overwhelmed and really do not know what I should do


    By golly send them to me.image

    Good luck with the collection though.image Also, welcome!

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You've had the coins since 1987. There's no need to rush things now...or to feel overwhelmed.

    Take your time. Build your own comfort level by studying and asking questions.

    Look at everything you have at your own leisurely pace.

    The decision of how to sell some or all of the coins can come later.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    In your first post you said it weighs over 35 pounds or 560 ounces . If silver is $40 a ounce when you sell that would be $22,400.
    The coins are not pure silver thou, some are 90% (pre64) and some 40% so I would suggest sorting them by silver content and weigh them again to get an approximate value.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Look at it as an adventure. And as in every adventure, you take one step at a time. Start with baby steps, don't try to learn everything all at once. Take a deep breath and try to enjoy. image
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  • guess it depends how much of a project you would enjoy working on-

    regardless of how intensely you chose to get involved-
    older Quarters, Halves, Dimes with a lot of detail still showing could be worth multiples of basic silver price
    (ignoring the slim possibility of finding something really exotic);

    try not to handle candidates for further examination(no bare hands, scratchy cloths, paper towels, etc)

    whatever comes up, SOMEONE here will know, or have the relevant experience.
    WILL WORK FOR CENTS, QUARTERS, HALVES, DOLLARS....

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Step 1: Create a list, sorted by type, year, mintmark (ie.... Walking Liberty Half-Dollar, 1944-S)
    Step 2: Check your lists against the redbook for any that jump out as high value (odds are that you won't find any - maybe a better date, but still unlikely from the looks of the pics image )
    Step 3: Your coins look to be well-circulated...only worth trying to grade if a better date (again, the Redbook you have may help a bit).
    Step 4: Put anything that is uncirculated off to the side, to be looked at later, if you want to see about higher grade/value. Depending on grade/look (ie...toning), silver melt value may still exceed coin value here (2011 Redbook won't help here, but folks on the forum can).
    Step 5: If nothing jumps out, and you have no desire for the collection, then sell it for silver content. What you can't sell, spend (ie...the Ike dollars (unless 1972 type 2) and maybe some of the Jefferson nickels if they aren't silver)

    From the pics, you have some commemoratives (the pile that has the 1893 Columbian 1/2 dollar on it), some lincolns (wheaties?), and other odds and ends......sorting by step 1 above will be most helpful I think
    On one hand, after doing the above, you can try to get the most $ by learning everything and looking for certain things (varities, etc). On the other, if you have no inclination to try to learn all that, you can still make good $ by selling it as unsearched (save for key dates like a 1916-D merc dime) for the silver content, etc. There are plenty of folks who do like to look through hundreds of kennedys and thousands of mercs....

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  • Starting here
    There are 34 Morgans. Starting with
    1878 3rd rev?
    1879 2nd rev?
    1880 3rd?
    1881 O 3rd rev?
    all comments welcomed. Condition, price, etc.
    Thank You

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  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    Ha! It just hit me what your forum name means. You surely have fallen in an avalanch of silver. I think there has been some great advice here, and the thing I will stress is that it is very very likely that the majority of the coins you have are common dates and common values. The great thing is that silver is between $40-$50 an ounce and you are sitting on a small fortune. If I were you, I would focus on making the itemized list of coins you have and then worry last about dates and mintmarks. You may end up finding a premium coin, but the reality is your value is mostly in the silver. Of course there could be a jewel in there, but your first task is to quantify what you have. You can then decide on selling it as bullion, or taking the next step and dig deep into each little mintmark etc.
  • -page 2-

    5. 1881 2nd rev?
    6.1882 S 3rd rev?
    7.1883 3rd rev?
    8.1885 O 3rd rev?

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Out of the four Morgans you just posted the 1878 might have potential. It appears to be of higher grade whereas the other three are quite circulated. If you look at the Red Book you will see that the 1878 is not a big dollar coin but in AU50+ it is worth more than "melt". If you look at the value of circulated 1879/1880/1881-O (less than AU50 in the book) you will see that the value is less than $30-$40. The Melt value of a Morgan right now is over $33. UNLESS THERE IS A VARIETY, these three are what we call junk silver, or worth melt. Here is a calculator that will give you an idea of what melt value is on silver. Coinflation.

    The modern Ike dollars are worth $1.00 each. There are some experts that may be able to tell you what to look for as a variety but other then that they are worth a buck.

    The token that has the silver center and the brass outer ring looks to be a silver gambling token. They are not all silver but have enough to make it worth more than face.

    Have fun!
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1882-S in the second group looks like it may be AU+ and may be worth at or more then melt, depending on it's actual grade.

    Also, I think that reverse one/two are no longer an issue after 1881.

    Visit VAM world for information about varieties.
  • oh thanks for that info. So, so far the 1878 i should pull aside and the 79,80,81 sell as junk silver.
  • and keep the 1882 s
  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    you are going to have FUN...really! get them folders out and see what Dad already has in there, or start a new one.
    get the feel for it before you do ANYTHING with what you have, it may grow on you it may not, put the best ones in them and use the rest to finance what you need.
    if it grows your in the club...if not ..you got a great start to becoming a STACKER. LOL.
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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    welcome.
    1. learn good handling techniques--- otherwise you can do a lot of damage quickly.
    2. don't sell them or trade them until you have a good understanding of what you are doing. What you think you know today will be dwarfed in one year of paying attention and study.
    3. enjoy them, if you are overwhelmed...take it slow...you don't need to go through the box in it's entirety. Don't think you need to solve 35 lbs of coin questions in one thread. Learn to use the archives on the US COIN FORUM and study.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too many old coins... and silver on a wild ride image
    Sit tight and watch the value of silver go up and down for a month or so. Enjoy your coins and don't even let someone talk you into thinking it's JUNK. Someone collected them for a reason. I wonder what he was thinking.
    Junk= cull=damaged=cleaned/scratched/bent/worn-out coins. (the rest are collectible and gradeable, in my opinion). And what isn't "scrapped" needs to be seen by someone who knows coins. Now this is where I will not suggest CAC or PCGS... not just yet, anyway.

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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Don't worry about reverses on the Morgans, just the date and mint marks. 1878 had 8 tail feathers and 7 tail feathers on the eagle. Those are the only "reverses" to look for.
    Becky
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is what I would do if they were my coins. I am not a Morgan guy so I would hope a Morgan collector might confirm as well.

    You may also start a new thread requesting grade ideas for those two but you will need to have better photos to bring out the detail neccesary for that. Here is a guess the grade thead those photos are ideal but unless you have a high dollar camera setup don't expect your photos to look like that. But as you can see, even with great photos the grade guesses are all over the place. Once you get an idea of the grade to assign then you have a better idea of the value to assign. You can look at values with the red book or the PCGS price guide but another option that is more realistic is looking at Ebay sales or Heritage archives.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Purple toe nails, a definite plus, just kidding.
    Seriously, separate the clad from the silver. Everything pre 1965 is 90% silver.
    All 1964 halves are 90% silver, 1965 to 1970 are 40% silver, after 1970 spend em, well unless you have a 1974 DDO.
    Then separate denominations, cents, nickels, dimes, halves, dollars.
    Then look at dates n mintmarks. You have a RB that's a start, get to reading.
    There could be keys just waiting to be discovered,1921 P,D,S + 1938D halves, 1916D + 1921D dimes, 32D + S quarters.
    More keys, 1909 SVDB cents, 1914D + 1931S cents. Condition is everything, but with keys a worn 32D could yield hundreds.
    Arm yourself with knowledge before walking into a B&M, and plopping them on the counter and saying, "Whats it worth".
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