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A Brasher Doubloon or an 1804 Dollar - Which would you rather own?
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I think six original examples of Brasher's Doubloon are known.
On January 12, 2005 Heritage Auction Galleries sold all three varieties of Brasher Doubloons as part of their Florida United Numismatists U.S. Coin Auction, Platinum Night Session. The coins realized
- $2,415,000 for the New York Style EB Punch on Wing NGC AU55,
- $2,990,000 for the unique New York Style EB Punch on Breast NGC XF45
- $690,000 for the rare but less iconic Lima Style Doubloon.
I think 15 specimens are known of the 1804 Silver Dollar, divided into 3 classes depending on when they were minted - between 1834 and 1860.
- In April 2008, Heritage sold a Class I in NGC Proof 62 for $3,737,500.00.
- In 1989, the Dexter Class I Original sold for $990,000.
- In 1999 the Sultan of Muscat-Brand-Childs 1804 Class I silver dollar, the finest known and graded PR68 by PCGS, realized $4,140,000.
On January 12, 2005 Heritage Auction Galleries sold all three varieties of Brasher Doubloons as part of their Florida United Numismatists U.S. Coin Auction, Platinum Night Session. The coins realized
- $2,415,000 for the New York Style EB Punch on Wing NGC AU55,
- $2,990,000 for the unique New York Style EB Punch on Breast NGC XF45
- $690,000 for the rare but less iconic Lima Style Doubloon.
I think 15 specimens are known of the 1804 Silver Dollar, divided into 3 classes depending on when they were minted - between 1834 and 1860.
- In April 2008, Heritage sold a Class I in NGC Proof 62 for $3,737,500.00.
- In 1989, the Dexter Class I Original sold for $990,000.
- In 1999 the Sultan of Muscat-Brand-Childs 1804 Class I silver dollar, the finest known and graded PR68 by PCGS, realized $4,140,000.
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i'd make someone a helluva deal!
Drunner
(Looking for an 1804 or Brasher in a Doily)
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
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None were made in 1804, and they were struck under unusual conditions for use as presentation pieces
or for sale (or use in trades) to collectors.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
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<< <i>Brasher doubloon. >>
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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<< <i>Class I 1804 dollar - don't care for the restrikes. >>
I'm sorry Bruce, but Mark directed this question to those who couldn't actually afford either coin... it's called a dream; you may not remember what it means to dream!
I'd like to think I would go for the Brasher because it is a gen-u-ine piece of American history. The 1804s were made after the fact, some much later after the fact. Eric Newman called them "fantastic," and not in the sense of "aweseome," but rather in the sense of "fantasy," or "not real."
<< <i>I believe the 1804 dollar is more famous, but I personally like the Brasher better. >>
There was a movie called The Brasher Doubloon made in 1947. I'm not aware of any movies based on the 1804 silver dollar.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>This is one of the questions you don't know for sure until it happens. >>
Not for me it isn't. I'll give you three guesses which one I'd pick, and the first two don't count!
<< <i>Due to the historical significance, the Brasher (either). Nothing against the 1804 (any class), but the Brasher is an earlier and (to me) more significant piece in history.
Drunner
(Looking for an 1804 or Brasher in a Doily) >>
The "original" 1804, especially the one in the King of Siam Proof set, has an interesting history. It represented a chapter in our diplomatic history and even has a role in the Broadway Musical, "The King and I," since lead character in the musical was once owned the 1804 and the rest of the set.
The "restirkes" however are one more example of the U.S. mint and some employees playing games and making money with public assets. I don't care for those coins at all and rate them with another overrated rarity the 1913 Liberty nickel.
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Stewart Huckaby
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<< <i>I believe the 1804 dollar is more famous, but I personally like the Brasher better. >>
There was a movie called The Brasher Doubloon made in 1947. I'm not aware of any movies based on the 1804 silver dollar. >>
One played a minor supporting role in an episode of Matlock once...
Stewart Huckaby
mailto:stewarth@HA.com
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2801 W. Airport Freeway
Dallas, Texas 75261
Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
Heritage Auctions
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<< <i>Brasher Doubloon, no question about it. Cooler in every imaginable way. >>
I agree! Brasher Doubloon for me as well.
<< <i>I would take the 1804 dollar, start a set and be able to complete it! >>
They did make Proofs for other years of Bust dollar. Seldom talked about, but you will need them.
I would prefer the Brasher methinks.