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Check out this beauty that I picked up.
beckes
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Not quite my favorite ANA holder, but close!
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<< <i>I wouldn't try to cross that coin. >>
You can always try! I hand it is so much better. I say she crosses! (If I decide to.)
<< <i>I wouldn't try to cross that coin. >>
I agree, the gash under the eye, and a scuffish face makes it at 64 IMO if you
try to cross it.....real nice coin and holder tho, for sure
What are your thoughts when there is not even the slightest mark in the fields? Does this balance out in the over-all grade?
leave it as is, nice subtle tone too...........
Its hard to believe that went 65. Nice DMPL fields tho.
I have no idea what I am missing here. I might need to post lower res pictures!! LOL
It is sitting on my desk and 6 times today, I was blinded by it!
<< <i>What are your thoughts when there is not even the slightest mark in the fields? Does this balance out in the over-all grade? >>
Nice coin, there are some field marks between the 1881 and the hair.
<< <i>I have no idea what I am missing here. I might need to post lower res pictures!! LOL
It is sitting on my desk and 6 times today, I was blinded by it! >>
I have NO doubt that the luster is wonderful on the coin, and it is attractive. But what we are saying is that the marks under the eye and on the chin are not consistent with a MS-65 graded Morgan dollar. On the Gray Sheet there is a $240 difference between MS-64 and 65 for normal surfaces. If you go up the DMPL, which this piece probably is not, it's $1,600 dollars.
I'm not trying to be mean here; I'm just trying to help you learn to look for some things other than the grade on the holder.
The scratches on the case are not helping it. Look at this one. I think I own her with mine!!!
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<< <i>I'm not trying to be mean here; I'm just trying to help you learn to look for some things other than the grade on the holder. >>
I am never offended by opinions. Thanks for sharing. I posted this sucker in another thread. Thoughts??
<< <i>let it go........., dont try to cross it ! nice coin ,...cheers
DONE!
Do you like that 67?
<< <i>The thing about CC Morgan dollars is that there have been periods when the grading was "soft" and periods when it was more strict. That's the reason why you have look at them carefully. Of course Proof-Like surfaces tend to emphasize every mark. >>
I assume mine was during the "soft" time in your opinion?? I know I let it go already but a comment requires a response right!?
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<< <i>The thing about CC Morgan dollars is that there have been periods when the grading was "soft" and periods when it was more strict. That's the reason why you have look at them carefully. Of course Proof-Like surfaces tend to emphasize every mark. >>
I assume mine was during the "soft" time in your opinion?? I know I let it go already but a comment requires a response right!? >>
It is an ANACS coin, and ANNCS coins after the company was not longer a part of ANACS tended to "softer" graders most, but not all of the time.
Let's put it this way. Few ANACS graded Morgan dollars sold for more or equal amounts than PCGS or even NGC graded Morgan silver dollars. If they crossed in the same grade, you did well, but most of the time they didn't.
Enjoy it all the same, no matter what others tell you.
I have quite a few ANACS graded Morgans.
Many are spot on with PCGS, some would probably downgrade.
Makes no difference to me as I bought the coins because they (and their rim toned appearance) appeal to me.
I crossed one 65 from ANACS to PCGS. That has been my only crossover (an 1878-S).
Your coin appeals to you (and me I might add) so you did great.
"Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."
~Wayne
<< <i>quite a bit of "grade" certainty based on pictures today by the board of experts. >>
ANA Holder=Sweet.
Anacs Holder, even the old ones=Not Sweet.
Mental note.
Bought the coin for a song so I am happy.
<< <i>Now I am curious so I would try the cross if the coin was mine, especially since you bought it for a song. (Which song, by the way?) If the coin doesn't cross, it is still the same coin, so you haven't lost anything except an ANACS insert that some folks are saying shows an incorrect grade anyway. >>
Q: How do I submit a coin that was graded by another company?
A: The "Crossover" service is for coins previously graded by another grading service. Submit the coins in the holder and PCGS will grade the coins and put them in a PCGS holder only if the PCGS grade meets or exceeds the other grading company's grade. If the PCGS grade is lower than the other grading company's grade (unless a lower minimum grade is specified in the minimum grade column) we will return the coin to you in the original holder. Note: The minimum grade cannot be higher than the current grade on the holder. You will be charged the full grading fee even if your coin does not cross.
<< <i>Now I am curious so I would try the cross if the coin was mine, especially since you bought it for a song. (Which song, by the way?) . >>
The new George Michael Song for the Royal Wedding of course! HAHAHAHAHAHA. NOT! Good song though since Stevie Wonder wrote it.
I paid $700.00 Not bad I think.
<< <i>Tough, if a MS-64 and not a DMPL as other have indicated then $700 was $200 too much. If it is a 5, you paid bid. If is is a DMPL 4 you did good and if it was 5 DMPL you hit a homer. >>
Thanks for pointing that out.
I of course never look at values when I buy a coin.
Why is it that everyone hopes for the worst?
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<< <i>Tough, if a MS-64 and not a DMPL as other have indicated then $700 was $200 too much. If it is a 5, you paid bid. If is is a DMPL 4 you did good and if it was 5 DMPL you hit a homer. >>
Thanks for pointing that out.
I of course never look at values when I buy a coin.
Why is it that everyone hopes for the worst? >>
So when it is the worst case it won't hurt as much
Old PCGS slabs, old NGC slabs and old style ANACS slabs are all poor slabs to buy DMPL's in unless you can see them in hand.
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<< <i>It's a nice looking coin, but if you tried to cross it, you would lose at least one if not two grading points. Those marks on the face do not an MS-65 make.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
I also collect the old ANACS alphanumeric holders (although not like I collect the Doilies) and have found my crackout success to PCGS to be fairly solid. I just look for 65s that I can crack and re-send (I have not tried to cross). I've been 4/5 but admittedly, very selective on what I try. The second variable, as pointed out by many, is the DMPL designation. It is always hard to tell what the current interpretations will be.
Regardless, that is also a great CC.
Drunner
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<< <i>That NGC 67* is a sweetie!!!! Love the cameo look. It is a 'wow' coin.
I also collect the old ANACS alphanumeric holders (although not like I collect the Doilies) and have found my crackout success to PCGS to be fairly solid. I just look for 65s that I can crack and re-send (I have not tried to cross). I've been 4/5 but admittedly, very selective on what I try. The second variable, as pointed out by many, is the DMPL designation. It is always hard to tell what the current interpretations will be.
Regardless, that is also a breat CC.
Drunner >>
Thanks. I have never NOT had an old ANA upgrade, but have also cracked out. I'll take the advise and leave her alone on this one.
That 67* is amazing. Reverse was obviously not mirrored enough to get DMPL, because the front sure looks it!
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That is a nice coin!