OUCH!! I sure didn't see THAT coming!! - - UPDATED!!
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A few weeks ago, my Mother-in-Law, who was going thru her house cleaning up in preparation for selling it, came across 7 Morgan & Peace silver dollars.
Knowing I collected them, she gave them to my wife to give to me.
I already had all the dates included, but I managed to hook up with a fellow Forum member whom I had dealt with previously, and we did a date swap so that I could fill more holes in my Whitman folders.
From there, I caught the silver bug! I cashed-in my 40% halves, sold-off my Darkside silver coins, and purchased a bunch more dates which I needed to fill more holes.
Because of the swap & sales, I managed to add a decent number of new coins to my folders at very little net cost to myself. I have little or no extra silver left now with which to purchase any more silver dolars, but figured I was pretty much done for a while anyway.........
So anyway, today my Brother-in-Law and his family came in for the holidays, and we all got to talking about what pieces of furniture, dishes, pictures, one-of-a-kind items, etc we each wanted from the house, since my Mother-In-Law isn't taking everything with her. In the course of the conversation, my Brother-in-Law says of his old room/furniture..."and I have a bunch of silver dollars in one of the drawers...."
UH, OH!!
Later on, I approached my Mother-in-Law when she was alone and asked if the ones she found & gave me might have come from his old room. "Maybe..." was her response.......
Nothing more was said about the coins the rest of the night, but it sounds like I will need to raise and spend a few bucks to "restore" his coins to the drawer, since the originals are long since traded away for dates I needed.... And, of course, the price of silver has continued to skyrocket since this whole thing began......
I sure didn't see all THIS coming!!
Knowing I collected them, she gave them to my wife to give to me.
I already had all the dates included, but I managed to hook up with a fellow Forum member whom I had dealt with previously, and we did a date swap so that I could fill more holes in my Whitman folders.
From there, I caught the silver bug! I cashed-in my 40% halves, sold-off my Darkside silver coins, and purchased a bunch more dates which I needed to fill more holes.
Because of the swap & sales, I managed to add a decent number of new coins to my folders at very little net cost to myself. I have little or no extra silver left now with which to purchase any more silver dolars, but figured I was pretty much done for a while anyway.........
So anyway, today my Brother-in-Law and his family came in for the holidays, and we all got to talking about what pieces of furniture, dishes, pictures, one-of-a-kind items, etc we each wanted from the house, since my Mother-In-Law isn't taking everything with her. In the course of the conversation, my Brother-in-Law says of his old room/furniture..."and I have a bunch of silver dollars in one of the drawers...."
UH, OH!!
Later on, I approached my Mother-in-Law when she was alone and asked if the ones she found & gave me might have come from his old room. "Maybe..." was her response.......
Nothing more was said about the coins the rest of the night, but it sounds like I will need to raise and spend a few bucks to "restore" his coins to the drawer, since the originals are long since traded away for dates I needed.... And, of course, the price of silver has continued to skyrocket since this whole thing began......
I sure didn't see all THIS coming!!
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<< <i>painful as it may be, I'd just give the ones you got in the swap back to your mother-in-law and ask her to tell your brother in law what happened. But man, that must hurt. >>
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when I was ten, I got into my older brothers 1964 mint set and spent it.
I got into trouble and the belt, over the years I replaced the 64 mint set
plus he got a 55 mint set, his B-Year, a 55 proof set, a 55 set I cherry picked
with a BB Half, full step nick, etc. etc. that I put into a capital holder, his three
sons also got there B-year proof & mint sets.
All that plus the BELT, for a 64 mint set
Steve
<< <i>Fix it now, fix it now!
when I was ten, I got into my older brothers 1964 mint set and spent it.
I got into trouble and the belt, over the years I replaced the 64 mint set
plus he got a 55 mint set, his B-Year, a 55 proof set, a 55 set I cherry picked
with a BB Half, full step nick, etc. etc. that I put into a capital holder, his three
sons also got there B-year proof & mint sets.
All that plus the BELT, for a 64 mint set
Steve >>
I don't care what the pros say, brother. Sometimes a whuppin' makes us all better men.
Hey, if a cheap "coach" bag off the street is good enough for most women...will this guy even know the difference?
But seriously...I think you should just pick up some nice/cheap common dates, put them in a sock and slip them to your mother-in-law...no harm, no foul!
<< <i>Time to sit down with your brother-in-law and tell him the whole story. Be ready with some payback scenerios and let him have some input as to reparations. Any sneaky hanky-panky will turn around and bite you where it hurts. >>
I agree. You're just creating a tangled web for yourself inspite of your good intentions. Heck, he may tell you he doesn't care and to stop worrying about it.
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<< <i>Time to sit down with your brother-in-law and tell him the whole story. Be ready with some payback scenerios and let him have some input as to reparations. Any sneaky hanky-panky will turn around and bite you where it hurts. >>
I agree. You're just creating a tangled web for yourself inspite of your good intentions. Heck, he may tell you he doesn't care and to stop worrying about it. >>
I think this is the best way out. He may accept fair market value for the original missing coins or as mentioned may tell you to forget about it. I would definately make a peace offering and be very humble so he doesn't think he's been taken advantage of. Above all run it accross your mother inlaw first to be sure she approves of your plan - she may have the wisest path for you to take to keep peace in the family. You're safest with your mother inlaw on your side.
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Hoard the keys.
A few years ago I was back visiting my best childhood friend, and got to talking about coins and things.
He (we) remembered he had a cigar box full of old silver dollars, along with some beautiful arrowheads he had found.
He had left this stuff at home after he moved out and got married. Shortly afterward he called his father to tell him he
wanted to come pick up that stuff sometime.....well, it turns out dad had been doing some housecleaning, came across this
stuff and distributed it among the niece and nephews that live in the neighborhood! Now, how do you ask for it back?
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I'd want to tell him before the Ma in law does
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Sounds like Mom has some culpability in all this?
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<< <i>Fix it now, fix it now!
when I was ten, I got into my older brothers 1964 mint set and spent it.
I got into trouble and the belt, over the years I replaced the 64 mint set
plus he got a 55 mint set, his B-Year, a 55 proof set, a 55 set I cherry picked
with a BB Half, full step nick, etc. etc. that I put into a capital holder, his three
sons also got there B-year proof & mint sets.
All that plus the BELT, for a 64 mint set
Steve >>
I don't care what the pros say, brother. Sometimes a whuppin' makes us all better men. >>
Amen to that! The kids today don't know what they missed!
I will bet your BIL will let the whole issue slide, but tell him--don't get wrapped up in any drama. Bad karma.
Jim
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<< <i>Sounds like Mom has some culpability in all this? >>
A 2 way street looking at it that way , if someone handed me 6 or 7 morgans/peace i'd like to think my first words would be "you do know these are worth X amount" which may give the person some room for thought on should they be giving them away.It kinda sounds like she doesnt know the value.
<< <i>I don't care what the pros say, brother. Sometimes a whuppin' makes us all better men. >>
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In all honesty, as she prepares to sell the house & move out, my MIL has been asking all of us what furniture, memento, etc items we want, and there's no arguments between anyone.
We all get along very well, so nothing to fear there as far as ill-will, etc goes. And there's not even a thought of keeping anything hidden.
Knowing I collect coins, my MIL wanted me to have them - - she's not hurting for $ or anything. She doesn't keep up with prices, but it wouldn't make a difference to her or impact her decision to have given them to me whether they were worth a few dollars, a few hundred, or a few thousand...... In her opinion, I get some coins, my BIL's wife gets her grandma's diamond ring, etc etc etc - - - and it's not like any of us are fighting over her wealth, etc. We're very lucky as a family in that regard.
I'm just going to take him aside & tell him what happened & to check his drawer when he gets home to make sure she really did give his away. It's possible (although not probable) that she found a different pile she and/or her late husband had put away for us (remember, they gave us/kids 1 a year until they couldn't find them anymore). If she really did give his away, I'll tell him, I will give them (or as close replacements as possible) back to him ASAP - - I'll just have to get them via open market, sale/trade, etc. I'm betting it's similar for him - - it's not the money.... it's the fact that he has some "silver dollars" put away that's intriguing. Being as they were all common dates, he might actually like some "older" dates in exchange... whatever he prefers.
And I'd feel better getting him replacements vs just money for them, as who knows how high the price of silver might run up (or down), and I'd feel bad if I gave him what turns out to be a "lowball" value for them when he looks back on it later......... IF he ever needed to sell them.....
So it's not so much of a worrisome situation with the family as it's just an unforseen expense. But, as I and others have pointed out, I DID get to fill a lot more holes as a result of the initial gift & its influence on me to get started again in that area....
A couple more things that the above posts reminded me of that were funny from our various youths........
(1) When my brothers & I were in grade school, my parents gave each of us a share of the few silver dollars, halves, quarters & dimes they had, so that we could "enjoy them now vs after they're gone...." Being a collector, I put mine in my folders. And I bought out some of my younger brother's coins as well. But I never got a chance to buy out my older brother's coins.... Unfortunately, my younger brother beat me to it - - for whatever reason, he took some of my older brother's silver (which was stored in his night-table in a metal band-aid box - - remember when they were METAL instead of cardboard?!) to pay for some lunches at school!!
(2) My BIL still "jokes" about how his Mom must have thrown out all his collectible baseball cards from the bottom of his closet after he moved away to college & beyond!! Maybe, give her history with his baseball cards and now his silver dollars, she sub-consciously has something against him?!
- - Dave
You know what they say about the 3 fastest means of (mis)communication?... Telephone, telegraph, &
TELL-A-WOMAN?
WELL.........
Yesterday, I asked my wife if she remembered when her Mom gave me the dollars & told her the story. So I told her I had traded them all away for dates I needed, but was going to go get replacements & tell him all that, but didn't have them yet. She said her Mom did get them from his drawer (or maybe she just is sure that's the case), and that he wouldn't care what the dates were......
ANYWAY..... today she's over at my MIL's house (we're joining them later this eve), and she calls me (for the umpteenth time) and says: "oh, when you come over, don't forget to bring the silver dollars...."
HUH?! "Did you tell him?"
So much for ME being the bad listener!!
Not what I was planning.......
- - Dave
Empty Nest Collection
<< <i>LATEST UPDATE...... Fri 4/22/11:
You know what they say about the 3 fastest means of (mis)communication?... Telephone, telegraph, &
TELL-A-WOMAN?
WELL.........
Yesterday, I asked my wife if she remembered when her Mom gave me the dollars & told her the story. So I told her I had traded them all away for dates I needed, but was going to go get replacements & tell him all that, but didn't have them yet. She said her Mom did get them from his drawer (or maybe she just is sure that's the case), and that he wouldn't care what the dates were......
ANYWAY..... today she's over at my MIL's house (we're joining them later this eve), and she calls me (for the umpteenth time) and says: "oh, when you come over, don't forget to bring the silver dollars...."
HUH?! "Did you tell him?"
So much for ME being the bad listener!!
Not what I was planning.......
- - Dave
You're dead meat now.
At least YOU tryed,
have a clear concience
Steve
But I'm starting to warm to that Judge Judy idea as a real WIN-WIN situation!!
- - Dave