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291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
Would you be willing to do this?

What type of collector (not bullion) coins would be acceptable to you?

How would you place a value on the coins offered?

The deal would be final with no recourse if what he gave you declined in value.

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    I would accept bullion in lieu of cash, not coins. Coins are too volatile (not that bullion isn't volatile too... but it has and will always have PM value).
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anything that I have an interest in I would accept. call it trade, call it barter... and if I dont need it and the item needs to be sold I would make sure the coin is worth AT LEAST $100 + % for the trouble I would now have to go through to sell it
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would depend a lot upon the dollar amount owed and what coins he might have...go for quality over quantity! Semi-Key/Key Date stuff in PCGS plastic that you would have no trouble turning over.
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    I would prefer to trade for something that I can easily turn into cash, namely bullion. Now, if I don't think they will be able to pay me otherwise (think loss to me), I would be willing to take collector coins (or anything else I thought I could sell) in trade. Make sure the value you assign compensates you for the expenses of selling at a minimum.
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and your problem is?
    Jim

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  • Offer the credit at sell to dealer prices, not buy from dealer prices. Unless they are coins you would buy anyway.
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes. If I wanted the coins and we agreed on a valuation. image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If he thinks it's a good idea, let him take the risk by selling them and send you the cash.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    ask for a bunch of 90% at slightly below melt for you having to take them and then sell the 90% for slightly more giving you more money image
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    I would want 125% in coins in place of the money owed. And agreed upon values.
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>If he thinks it's a good idea, let him take the risk by selling them and send you the cash. >>



    This sounds like an acceptable compromise.
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've dun it before, on both sides, it was all good.

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  • << <i>I would want 125% in coins in place of the money owed. And agreed upon values. >>



    I like this idea, that way you can cover selling costs if you just need the cash.
  • questor54questor54 Posts: 1,351
    It depends on how quickly you need the cash.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last I looked coins are cash. You never know you may find a good one. image


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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it was a favorable deal for me, why not?
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would take the coins while you can get them.

    I've read too many stories on here about people ending up with nothing on some of these transactions.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>and your problem is?
    Jim >>



    No problem. A pure hypothetical.
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If he thinks it's a good idea, let him take the risk by selling them and send you the cash. >>



    That was my first thought -


  • << <i>Would you be willing to do this?

    What type of collector (not bullion) coins would be acceptable to you?

    How would you place a value on the coins offered?

    The deal would be final with no recourse if what he gave you declined in value.

    Comments ... >>



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would want cash or bullion at wholesale prices. If he has collector coins, he can sell them and then pay me.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would want cash or bullion at wholesale prices. If he has collector coins, he can sell them and then pay me. >>



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  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    For me it would depend on the coins being offered in trade.
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I make trades all the time. I set the value and the other party either accepts my number or doesn't.

    As for decline in value, that is irrelevant. the value at the time of transaction is all that matters. After that, you get to decide if you want to hold them or sell them.

    I think many people are responding negatively because of the negative tone you put in your post.

    --jerry
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anything that I have an interest in I would accept. call it trade, call it barter... and if I dont need it and the item needs to be sold I would make sure the coin is worth AT LEAST $100 + % for the trouble I would now have to go through to sell it >>



    Generally I tell customers who ask that I accept almost all forms of payment but have stopped taking goats because of the mess and the smell. --Jerry
  • Is this a distressed debtor situation?

    In that case I might take enough collector coins to cover the obligation or a percent thereof.

    Of course this would sever our future business relationship.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Anything that I have an interest in I would accept. call it trade, call it barter... and if I dont need it and the item needs to be sold I would make sure the coin is worth AT LEAST $100 + % for the trouble I would now have to go through to sell it >>



    Generally I tell customers who ask that I accept almost all forms of payment but have stopped taking goats because of the mess and the smell. --Jerry >>



    Are you still taking sheep Jerry? image


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  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would you be willing to do this?

    What type of collector (not bullion) coins would be acceptable to you?

    How would you place a value on the coins offered?

    The deal would be final with no recourse if what he gave you declined in value.

    Comments ... >>



    yes take the coins....but use pawn shop pricing to value the coins. image
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the response depends a lot on why the person owes me money.

    why they can't pay it, and

    what the coins are

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  • photogphotog Posts: 242 ✭✭
    In 2004 I took a phone call at ANR from a man who was apologetic about "all the calls" I must get from people who thought they had something rare when in fact it wasn't likely. But he continued and told me he was a librarian, and he had done some research, and he thought he had in his possession the stolen DuPont 1866 No Motto $1.00. The story was just intriguing enough I interrupted John Kraljevich at his desk and told him I had a call on hold that was different than the usual...and in case you forgot, it turns out he in fact had the stolen coin.

    How?

    Someone in the 70s gave him a box of coins as collateral against a loan. The loan was never repaid, but he sat on the box for years, and there the coin was.

    So, who knows what sort of goodies might turn up? image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In 2004 I took a phone call at ANR from a man who was apologetic about "all the calls" I must get from people who thought they had something rare when in fact it wasn't likely. But he continued and told me he was a librarian, and he had done some research, and he thought he had in his possession the stolen DuPont 1866 No Motto $1.00. The story was just intriguing enough I interrupted John Kraljevich at his desk and told him I had a call on hold that was different than the usual...and in case you forgot, it turns out he in fact had the stolen coin.

    How?

    Someone in the 70s gave him a box of coins as collateral against a loan. The loan was never repaid, but he sat on the box for years, and there the coin was.

    So, who knows what sort of goodies might turn up? image >>


    Interesting story, but the "man" got screwed...twice!
  • If they're good coins--i.e., PCGS or NGC certified, solid for the grade, and the kind of coins I'd want to own--then sure. It would be like going to a coin show, except the part about spending money is already over with. I'd certainly do it for coins I collect, including those that walk the line between bullion and numismatic worth--generic raw silver and uncirculated gold.
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would take the coins while you can get them.

    I've read too many stories on here about people ending up with nothing on some of these transactions. >>



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  • Sell the coins and pay me in cash.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In 2004 I took a phone call at ANR from a man who was apologetic about "all the calls" I must get from people who thought they had something rare when in fact it wasn't likely. But he continued and told me he was a librarian, and he had done some research, and he thought he had in his possession the stolen DuPont 1866 No Motto $1.00. The story was just intriguing enough I interrupted John Kraljevich at his desk and told him I had a call on hold that was different than the usual...and in case you forgot, it turns out he in fact had the stolen coin.

    How?

    Someone in the 70s gave him a box of coins as collateral against a loan. The loan was never repaid, but he sat on the box for years, and there the coin was.

    So, who knows what sort of goodies might turn up? image >>



    I interpreted your story differently. Your customer got fleeced by the party who likely was either a conspirator or the principal in the DuPont robbery. That person found an uninformed dupe to fence the hot goods on. I know of a similar situation where an alleged 1804 Dollar was presented as collateral on a substantial loan between private parties. That matter never has been settled.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I would take the coins while you can get them.

    I've read too many stories on here about people ending up with nothing on some of these transactions. >>



    total total image >>




    Been there done that, a few times. Sometimes 90% is a lot better than 0%. One time I refused to settle for about 60%....I ended up getting 0%. Lesson learned.

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  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    If not bullion, it would have to be a certified coin that I need for my type set.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Depends on his idea of what collector coins are.

    If it was some easy to sell keys or bullion at a bargain price that might be ok.
    If it was a bunch of common junk in folders at face value that would be ok.

    If it was some common junk at retail prices forget it.
    Ed
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If he thinks it's a good idea, let him take the risk by selling them and send you the cash. >>


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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If he thinks it's a good idea, let him take the risk by selling them and send you the cash. >>

    This
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone owes you money, can't pay in cash and wants to pay you in collector coins ...

    Do you buy coins? If so, why not see what he has?

    I have traded for coins a few times. No problem if they're coins I like.
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I would take them at an acceptable discount to make up for the hit you will take when you immediately resell.
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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would take them at an acceptable discount to make up for the hit you will take when you immediately resell. >>

    "Will take"? Not everybody loses money reselling coins they just bought, you know. Of course, if *you* do, you should probably not agree to this sort of deal.
  • photogphotog Posts: 242 ✭✭
    Admittedly, it didn't end well for the guy who took the coins as the debt was never settled and the only coin worthwhile belonged to someone else - but he did have the sense to recognize what it was and turn it over to the rightful owner. It's just the only story I have about someone taking coins in lieu of cash. image Take it as a cautionary tale, or an extraordinary one, all the same to me.

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