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Aight, so I've been considering toning one of my ATB coins naturally overtime. Is there any natural method that can tone it with circular rings of color? Whats the best way? I recall reading somewhere that putting it in a coin album can work but is that the best method?

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,367 ✭✭✭✭
    time

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice old coin album - wait 32.5 years.....image
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    LoL. Well ofcourse time, but where should I put/store the coin to get it to tone the correct way I want? lol.
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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,367 ✭✭✭✭
    on top of your hot water heater in a ziplock bag with egg yolks and wrapped in a taco bell napkin


    but that's cheating, so back to my original answer: time

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    erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Aight, so I've been considering toning one of my ATB coins naturally overtime. Is there any natural method that can tone it with circular rings of color? Whats the best way? I recall reading somewhere that putting it in a coin album can work but is that the best method? >>



    You understand this is a very loaded question with no right answer?

    The real answer in addition to time? Throw it outdoors in the dirt. Otherwise, stick it in something and hope that at the time you are willing to have it graded/sell the method you chose is not AT.
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    << <i>on top of your hot water heater in a ziplock bag with egg yolks and wrapped in a taco bell napkin


    but that's cheating, so back to my original answer: time >>



    LoL. That would make my coins smell. =P I guess I can try to find an album and see how that works. lol.
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    << <i>Aight, so I've been considering toning one of my ATB coins naturally overtime. Is there any natural method that can tone it with circular rings of color? Whats the best way? I recall reading somewhere that putting it in a coin album can work but is that the best method? >>



    Ask MOC

    he might have an idea..
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My surefire method:

    1. Find some high sulfur/petro/fume heavy cardboard'ish stuff.
    2. Trace a circle around your ATB.
    3. Cut it out.
    4. Insert coin.
    5. Add time.

    Of course I just made that up...but I'd guess it'd work.
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    Well there's an interesting idea! haha. I like that. lol.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My surefire method:

    1. Find some high sulfur/petro/fume heavy cardboard'ish stuff.
    2. Trace a circle around your ATB.
    3. Cut it out.
    4. Insert coin.
    5. Add time.

    Of course I just made that up...but I'd guess it'd work. >>



    A good choice would probably be the cardboard from the cheap box a tool from Harbor Freight came it. If ;you want even toning, don't get any oil or smudges on the coin. If it has any smudges, wash in acetone or lightly dip before toning. Invisible touches show after toning (just look at old NT coins). Put tissue paper below and above the coin, cut enough layers of cardboard to be as thick or thicker than the coin (don't use the coin to trace, use a 3" hole punch or a compass). A tight fit like an album will ensure even toning.

    I've never done this, but I have good lab technique from physics and chem labs.

    --jerry
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and can say that "naturally toning" occurs naturally.

    and if I say anything further it will result in this thread turning into another "what is NT" and "what is AT" never ending thread.

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    AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Put it in my mom`s wooden hutch next to the spoons and give it time... image

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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Aight, so I've been considering toning one of my ATB coins naturally overtime. Is there any natural method that can tone it with circular rings of color? Whats the best way? I recall reading somewhere that putting it in a coin album can work but is that the best method? >>



    Ask MOC

    he might have an idea.. >>




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    put it in a #10 envelope on a windowsill. Within just a few weeks you will start to see the periphery tinge gold.
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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whitmans and time, also I've had stuff in those little old school 2x2 coin, colored paper envolopes develop interesting results over TIME
    especially if left on a window sill.
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    stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My surefire method:

    1. Find some high sulfur/petro/fume heavy cardboard'ish stuff.
    2. Trace a circle around your ATB.
    3. Cut it out.
    4. Insert coin.
    5. Add time.

    Of course I just made that up...but I'd guess it'd work. >>



    A good choice would probably be the cardboard from the cheap box a tool from Harbor Freight came it. If ;you want even toning, don't get any oil or smudges on the coin. If it has any smudges, wash in acetone or lightly dip before toning. Invisible touches show after toning (just look at old NT coins). Put tissue paper below and above the coin, cut enough layers of cardboard to be as thick or thicker than the coin (don't use the coin to trace, use a 3" hole punch or a compass). A tight fit like an album will ensure even toning.

    I've never done this, but I have good lab technique from physics and chem labs.

    --jerry >>



    Or maybe use a coin of the same denomination but in clad to do the tracing?
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    Dansco or Whitman holder do the trick. I got some silver unc halves wrapped in
    tissue paper in plastic tubes I ain't looked at in a few years. They might be about dun by now.
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    Here ya go, buy one of these Link to Wayte Raymond album page, cut out a hole the size of your hockey puck, place puck in album, and store in warm humid environment.
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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>on top of your hot water heater in a ziplock bag with egg yolks and wrapped in a taco bell napkin


    but that's cheating, so back to my original answer: time >>



    LoL. That would make my coins smell. >>



    If you take a potato and cut a slot in it and place the coin in and bake for 45 minutes or so the smell will be gone...I have heard.image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wrap looslely in tissue paper and place on upper beam in chicken coop for three weeks... Gawrownteeed..... Cheers, RickO
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,626 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wrap looslely in tissue paper and place on upper beam in chicken coop for three weeks... Gawrownteeed..... Cheers, RickO >>



    I would think that all of that ammonia would prevent chicken chit toning!!image
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    pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


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    << <i>Aight, so I've been considering toning one of my ATB coins naturally overtime. Is there any natural method that can tone it with circular rings of color? Whats the best way? I recall reading somewhere that putting it in a coin album can work but is that the best method? >>



    Ask MOC

    he might have an idea.. >>



    oh snap, you calling the doctor?
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    Hahaha. You guys are funny with all your "ideas" for toning. I didn't want to bake my coins or shove them in potatoes. lol. I just wanted to know how to store it overtime to get the best "natural" results. ~.^ Such as what type of envelope to put it in, etc.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clean the coin to remove any oil or fingerprints using acetone and then wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it in a warm place.

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    << <i>Clean the coin to remove any oil or fingerprints using acetone and then wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it in a warm place. >>



    Just what kind of damage can a fingerprint cause on the coin? And can it be removed with water and gently wiping?
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, fingerprints quickly etch the coins surface if not removed almost as they occur. The only time I was able to remove a fingerprint was when I fumbled a proof silver British coin and left a print on the mirror obverse. I immediately put Dawn dishwashing soap on the entire surface, straight from the bottle.... I let it set for ten minutes. Then I rinsed it in VERY hot, running water for three minutes. It removed the print entirely. According to discussions here for the last ten years, anything you do to intentionally tone a coin makes it AT. Intent is key. Cheers, RickO
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,541 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Clean the coin to remove any oil or fingerprints using acetone and then wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it in a warm place. >>



    Just what kind of damage can a fingerprint cause on the coin? And can it be removed with water and gently wiping? >>



    The idea is to have a uniformly clean surface to prevent getting splotchy uneven toning pattern.

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    pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


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    << <i>Clean the coin to remove any oil or fingerprints using acetone and then wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it in a warm place. >>



    Just what kind of damage can a fingerprint cause on the coin? And can it be removed with water and gently wiping? >>



    The idea is to have a uniformly clean surface to prevent getting splotchy uneven toning pattern. >>



    and just the warm enviroment does it? no need for humidity? proof or uncircualted matter?

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    << <i>Hahaha. You guys are funny with all your "ideas" for toning. I didn't want to bake my coins or shove them in potatoes. lol. I just wanted to know how to store it overtime to get the best "natural" results. ~.^ Such as what type of envelope to put it in, etc. >>



    Everything ive bought over the years from the royal mint came in a velvet lined walnut box , they tone like no others. I notice the US mint sells velvet lined presentation boxes for a couple bucks.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait patiently , Wayte Raymond .
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You live in CA....not a good place to tone coins. Need humidity, smoke filled
    homes from coal heating (the more sulfur in the coal the better) and long, long
    winters.
    No chance in heck of achieving you goal unless you move.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,541 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.....and just the warm enviroment does it? no need for humidity? proof or uncircualted matter? >>



    Heat and humidity accelerate the process although it will still take several months. It shouldn't matter whether it's a proof or a business strike coin.

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Clean the coin to remove any oil or fingerprints using acetone and then wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it in a warm place. >>



    it should accidentally fall into the napkin
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    If you want to naturally tone a coin, send it to one of the Coin Doctors in the PCGS lawsuit.

    If you want to return a toned coin to it's natural state; send it to Candy Striper RickO and he'll give it a sponge bath in Dawn dishwashing soap. image
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ive witnessed the work of the Taco Bell Napkin and yes indeed it does make those nice subtle tones, and creates the blueish rim toning also. It takes a few years to get the best results.

    It would be interesting to take two pieces of fresh cut white oak and put the coin between them for a long period also.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Correct Larry... I am not a coin doctor.... just a well trained EMT that can give resuscitive care to 'coin patients'...image Cheers, RickO
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL @ some stuff here.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Move to Yellowstone National Park.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Move to Geyserville, California.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,847 ✭✭✭
    According to discussions here for the last ten years, anything you do to intentionally tone a coin makes it AT. Intent is key. Cheers, RickO

    So no submitting any 5 ozers for at least 30 years.

    Is there a time limit for a naturally toned coin?
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>According to discussions here for the last ten years, anything you do to intentionally tone a coin makes it AT. Intent is key. Cheers, RickO

    So no submitting any 5 ozers for at least 30 years.

    Is there a time limit for a naturally toned coin? >>

    30 years is way out of line for these .999 pure silver monsters.

    Folks need to realize that these are not "alloyed" with copper and as such tone MUCH quicker than older 90% silver/copper alloyed coins.

    I would expect that within the year, some of these will be offered as toned monsters that can and will be graded by the top TPG's simply because they can and will tone "naturally" under the right circumstances.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    apply coppertone liberally then place in the sun
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    habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 months ago I had a shinny CBH she went into an OLD 2x2.

    I misplaced her and was worried I would never see her again.

    2 days ago while cleaning my desk off I happened to move my coffee cup warmer,
    and low and behold she had slid under it.nice an warm and cozy all day then cold at night.

    When I opened the 2x2 to see her she had turned a very light pleasant golden color.

    maybe I will let her hide a while longer,,, seems fasted than a window sill.

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