Our good buddy Tee135 is back to selling his items on the BST!
gecko109
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A new Tee135 listing
After having stiffed me, PerryHall, Oilstates, and at least a few others who have not publicly stated so.....this guy is back on the BST trying to sell things. He just sent me a PM involving the "L" word.....yes, thats Lawyer!
After having stiffed me, PerryHall, Oilstates, and at least a few others who have not publicly stated so.....this guy is back on the BST trying to sell things. He just sent me a PM involving the "L" word.....yes, thats Lawyer!
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Edited to add that he deleted his offer to ship before payment.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>A new Tee135 listing
After having stiffed me, PerryHall, Oilstates, and at least a few others who have not publicly stated so.....this guy is back on the BST trying to sell things. He just sent me a PM involving the "L" word.....yes, thats Lawyer! >>
Silly me......I thought it stood for "Loser!"
Thanks,
Bstat
<< <i>In all fairness to Alain (Tee135), he does offer to ship before payment. I think he is trying to clean up his act and make amends. While a few deals turned sour in the past, I don't think he ever took someones money and kept it without shipping the agreed to purchase or he at least returned the money. >>
I think that if Alain is guilty of anything, it is being overeager. He should be given a chance.
A poor reputation follows you for a lifetime and no matter what you do to overcome it, it is always right there behind you.
Even more true in the age of the internet.
Do this 25 times and then maybe your reputation will be restored.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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<< <i>A new Tee135 listing
After having stiffed me, PerryHall, Oilstates, and at least a few others who have not publicly stated so.....this guy is back on the BST trying to sell things. He just sent me a PM involving the "L" word.....yes, thats Lawyer! >>
Haven't been on the PM forums in awhile. I thought you guys smoothed things over.
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<< <i>A new Tee135 listing
After having stiffed me, PerryHall, Oilstates, and at least a few others who have not publicly stated so.....this guy is back on the BST trying to sell things. He just sent me a PM involving the "L" word.....yes, thats Lawyer! >>
Thanks for the warning!! Got to pass on any potential headaches.
I've always wondered what's the difference between a Lawyer and an Attorney. (boy, did I open the door for some jokes there!)
<< <i>I've always wondered what's the difference between a Lawyer and an Attorney. >>
About $50 per hour.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Everyone should get a second chance, if they acknowledge their mistakes.
How many second chances should someone get?
A chance to do what, exactly?
It seems to me that there are three types of seller on BST. Type I - buys & sells excess or no-longer-wanted coins; Type II - professional dealer who routinely buys & sells coins & bullion at market spreads; Type III - trying to put the "hustle" on for a quick profit.
None of those types are particularly bad or good, but how that buying & selling gets accomplished is an entirely different matter.
Again - how many chances?
I knew it would happen.
Now to address this issue in the future they need to start a feedback thread with a sticky in the BST for feedback. This is used on another board and it works well. All one has to do is search and see if the user has feedback in that thread. In fact most people would just put their feedback in their sig line. It works very well at no cost. JMO
I agree with that to some point and I know exactly what you're refering to, but on the other hand, all someone has to do is ask for references and take a little bit of time to confirm all that. I have a feeling that if this Forum went to using feedback, there would be some unjustified bad commments left. And then how is that dealt with? Does PCGS step in and somehow moderate it? Does the person accused of wrongdoing get the chance to explain themself (which is basically the way it is now)?
I think just asking for references gets it done rather than the potential of unjustified comments being left on a feedback forum by a buyer/seller over what may be a trivial thing. Everyone has an itchy trigger finger when talking/commenting on the internet and I could see it getting out of hand and causing even more (unwarranted) problems. all jmho.
<< <i>I think anyone that posted in the BST should be given a time-out, that's a no-no. I know the intent but this is getting old to me. The mods have noticed and haven't told him he couldn't sell for a time so it must be okay with them on their forum.
Now to address this issue in the future they need to start a feedback thread with a sticky in the BST for feedback. This is used on another board and it works well. All one has to do is search and see if the user has feedback in that thread. In fact most people would just put their feedback in their sig line. It works very well at no cost. JMO >>
This seller has screwed 5 different people in a 2 month span, yet I should be given the time-out? Its very nice to see what your values are.
<< <i>Now to address this issue in the future they need to start a feedback thread with a sticky in the BST for feedback. This is used on another board and it works well. All one has to do is search and see if the user has feedback in that thread. In fact most people would just put their feedback in their sig line. It works very well at no cost. JMO >>
Excellent idea, I participate in a watch forum that does this.
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<< <i>Now to address this issue in the future they need to start a feedback thread with a sticky in the BST for feedback. This is used on another board and it works well. All one has to do is search and see if the user has feedback in that thread. In fact most people would just put their feedback in their sig line. It works very well at no cost. JMO >>
Excellent idea, I participate in a watch forum that does this. >>
several hunting & fishing forums I visit do this as well, its a great idea
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others continue to deal with the problem member, and it becomes ok.
Is this a function of some members get more respect than others and therefore, are less likely to be criticized for bringing a complaint?
I see the same issue in Domestic Violence cases. particularly with the involved men.
I hope this works out for you Gecko and appreciate your candor and diligence.
Miles
<< <i>Not for any other reason than this is nagging at me. I wasn't going to post it but, I just completed a small transaction with Alain - wrote the check, it cleared, and I received my silver bar...there I said it, I feel better, ignore it if you choose to... >>
I can understand this... At one time, I felt compelled to come to the defense of someone that I had had several no problem transactions with.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I can understand this... At one time, I felt compelled to come to the defense of someone that I had had several no problem transactions with. >>
Thank you! It WAS more for me than anything else. His communication was right on - it was a great transaction straight through...
Again, this is MY experience with Alain. In no way am I trying to make lite of what has transpired with others less fortunate than I.
Hopefully, Alain will make that right.
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<< <i>I can understand this... At one time, I felt compelled to come to the defense of someone that I had had several no problem transactions with. >>
Thank you! It WAS more for me than anything else. His communication was right on - it was a great transaction straight through...
Again, this is MY experience with Alain. In no way am I trying to make lite of what has transpired with others less fortunate than I.
Hopefully, Alain will make that right. >>
I had a couple of very good transactions with Alain/Tee135 before he tried to sell me a rare 7 oz Engelhard bar that I knew that he had already sold to another forum member two weeks earlier.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>I can understand this... At one time, I felt compelled to come to the defense of someone that I had had several no problem transactions with. >>
Thank you! It WAS more for me than anything else. His communication was right on - it was a great transaction straight through...
Again, this is MY experience with Alain. In no way am I trying to make lite of what has transpired with others less fortunate than I.
Hopefully, Alain will make that right. >>
I too dealt two times with Alain. First time I sent payment and then received item. The second time I received a photo of what I would receive and it had a serial number. Also he shipped the item simultaneously when I shipped the payment. Had absolutely no problems with the transactions.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
2 times is a pattern.
But when you see this three times or more, its a program.
My values? Seems to me this is PCGS values. Their board and their call. From what I understand with the SM posting no one has lost money. Seems the seller was forward selling and got caught in the upward movement of silver and was unwilling to lose money. Rules are rules and everyone including you need to abide by them JMO.
I've actually gave some feedback on how to improve the board. Now you've disrespected me just because you have a hate issue with this person. I guess you thinking your above the rules tells us your values. Again it was way wrong but having threads on 3 boards over and over is getting old. References would have little effect in outing the user since he's not going to give you the names of those 5 people. Having a thread with feedback lets the buyers evaluate the sellers.
Most of us are collectors or investors and while the board does provide a valved selling service most users don't buy or sell on the BST board.
It's not going to take too much of this kind of stuff and it'll be gone since it's such an admin nightmare, would you be happy then?
I
<< <i>This seller has screwed 5 different people in a 2 month span, yet I should be given the time-out? Its very nice to see what your values are.
My values? Seems to me this is PCGS values. Their board and their call. From what I understand with the SM posting no one has lost money. Seems the seller was forward selling and got caught in the upward movement of silver and was unwilling to lose money. Rules are rules and everyone including you need to abide by them JMO.
I've actually gave some feedback on how to improve the board. Now you've disrespected me just because you have a hate issue with this person. I guess you thinking your above the rules tells us your values. Again it was way wrong but having threads on 3 boards over and over is getting old. References would have little effect in outing the user since he's not going to give you the names of those 5 people. Having a thread with feedback lets the buyers evaluate the sellers.
Most of us are collectors or investors and while the board does provide a valved selling service most users don't buy or sell on the BST board.
It's not going to take too much of this kind of stuff and it'll be gone since it's such an admin nightmare, would you be happy then?
I >>
Please check the last post on page 1 of the following:
Something YOU posted.
Now I really have to ask....are you off your meds?
Regards this isn't to dis you just to point out the fact we all must follow the rules and abide by what they decide.
I wouldn't want someone like you to disappear from these boards.
<< <i>Yep my opinion but PCGS's call. I let it go you do too, life's too short, just saying...........
Regards this isn't to dis you just to point out the fact we all must follow the rules and abide by what they decide.
I wouldn't want someone like you to disappear from these boards.
Ok, let me apologize for what may be a misunderstanding Ttown. Just a couple weeks ago, you publicly called for member Tee135's banning. So he tries to "sell" some more stuff on the BST...after he has had numerous problems with numerous members here......and I try to warn any potential new customers of his past performance with a few links....and then you publicly call for a "time out" for me??? Maybe something was lost in translation.....maybe I misinterpreted you.....but I have no apologies for making it public what member Tee135 has been doing as of late in regards to his BST antics.
This IS CU's playground though, not mine....you are correct about that. If im out of line with my post in Tee135's newest BST ad, then im certain i'll hear about it this morning from a mod. Its just difficult for me to understand whats wrong with posting a warning about a member who has had so many bad deals in such a short....and recent....time period.
<< <i>But Phil, ttown isn't on that page that your link says he is.
He isnt Rich? Right at the very bottom of page 1 of that thread? He posted:
"We don't need members like this, since this seems to be the person SOP he needs to be banned from this site IMO. I'd report him. JMO"
Is this the Twilight Zone?
<< <i>The BST here is the most backward of any forums I participate in, a feedback thread would be a step in the right direction. >>
Actually, the BST is quite effectively self policing. Any bad transactions are very well publicized in one or more threads.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
sorry...too early for me to be posting. lol
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<< <i>But Phil, ttown isn't on that page that your link says he is.
He isnt Rich? Right at the very bottom of page 1 of that thread? He posted:
"We don't need members like this, since this seems to be the person SOP he needs to be banned from this site IMO. I'd report him. JMO"
Is this the Twilight Zone?
Sho' nuff....there it is.
<< <i> From what I understand with the SM posting no one has lost money. Seems the seller was forward selling and got caught in the upward movement of silver and was unwilling to lose money. >>
Here we have a major disagreement. "No one has lost money."
If a wannabe sells something he does not own, and it then goes up before he can cover it, and the wannabe cancels the sale because he is "unwilling to lose money," then the original purchaser has suffered a loss, if only from the lost opportunity to buy the thing before the "upward movement."
Big boys must be willing to lose money sometimes, if only to protect their honor. If they can't play the game without running home to Mommy because they are losing, they have no business being on the field.
Big boys must be willing to lose money sometimes, if only to protect their honor. If they can't play the game without running home to Mommy because they are losing, they have no business being on the field
Totally Agree. Except that it's not an opportunity loss - it's a real loss. And we don't need this.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Big boys must be willing to lose money sometimes, if only to protect their honor. If they can't play the game without running home to Mommy because they are losing, they have no business being on the field. >>
<< <i>I sent him a $600 check. Yes, he sent it back but my $600 was tied up 10 days so I could not make another purchase. >>
Agree I sent a 600.00 check that was tied up for over 6 weeks with a increase of over 5.00 in spot price . Did I receive the difference nope!
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Point taken.