Ouch!

NewParadigm

Just got results back. Send it an NGC ms65 Morgan. Came back a 62.
Bummer. Looks considerably better than a 62 in my opinion.

Ahrensdad

Ouch is right. Wow.

relicsncoins

<< <i>Just got results back. Send it an NGC ms65 Morgan. Came back a 62.
Bummer. Looks considerably better than a 62 in my opinion. >>



Photos?

ModCrewman

Perhaps the bandsaw slipped when they cut it out.

NewParadigm

<< <i>Perhaps the bandsaw slipped when they cut it out. >>



Haha. Right. I'll post photos when I get it back. I thought it would come back in a 64.

robkool

Not surprised... One of my 78cc Morgans downgraded from an ngc MS62 to pcgs AU58 on a crossover.

NewParadigm

It seems as though pcgs does not utilize the grades of 60 and 61 in silver too often.

Res

<< <i>Not surprised... One of my 78cc Morgans downgraded from an ngc MS62 to pcgs AU58 on a crossover. >>



That's not really that great of leap. Super slider is the term right? 65 to 62 is a huge jump imho.

InternetJunky

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<< <i>Not surprised... One of my 78cc Morgans downgraded from an ngc MS62 to pcgs AU58 on a crossover. >>



That's not really that great of leap. Super slider is the term right? 65 to 62 is a huge jump imho. >>





Looking forward to some photos. Maybe with the knowledge here we can debug why this should or should have not happened.

scottgardener

Gah! That hurts. The PCGS/NGC gradient usually isn't that bad. I'm more worried about the increasing refusal to grade coins--I worry that coins NGC rightfully graded a few years ago will be "did not cross" at any grade because of the Genuine Not Gradeable spot on the grading room dartboard.

DoubleEagle59

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<< <i>Not surprised... One of my 78cc Morgans downgraded from an ngc MS62 to pcgs AU58 on a crossover. >>



That's not really that great of leap. Super slider is the term right? 65 to 62 is a huge jump imho. >>





Looking forward to some photos. Maybe with the knowledge here we can debug why this should or should have not happened. >>



I agree.

58 to 62 is a very tough range to stay consistent.

But 62 to 65 is a huge difference.

Someone goofed up big time.

LeeBone

Wow, tough break.
NGC 65 to a PCGS 62?? just doesn`t make sense. NGC isn`t that far from being "wrong".
Did you send it in the holder or was it cracked out?
65 to a 62 is too far of a spread, plain and simple.
Whats your guess as to why?

ajman

<< Someone goofed up big time. >>

Yeah they did, but who?

lkeigwin

<< <i>Did you send it in the holder or was it cracked out? >>

Doesn't really matter since the coin was seen naked by PCGS either way. Or are you thinking knee-jerk reaction to the NGC slab?

I agree that 62 --> 58 isn't unusual. Frankly, I'd rather have the 58 most of the time. But 65 --> 62 is huge. Very sorry.

We need to see pix.
Lance.

mkman123

Was the coin possibly damaged or had something happen to it while in the mail to decrease the grade that much?

NewParadigm

I will def get pics up. I am thinking to send it in again.

keyman64

I had something very similar happen. An ANACS Merc Variety in MS64FB went to PCGS and came back an MS62FB. Technically a 64FB ALL DAY LONG. PCGS did not like the dark toning on the coin. Grrrrr, now I have to replace the darn thing if I can ever find a better one. Sucks, I feel for ya!

StubbyMcNumbthumbs

It's always tricky playing a game where the rules are based on the subjective opinions of imperfect humans.

Somebody got it wrong. Whoever it was, you got a raw deal. "Ouch" is right!

Tdec1000

<< <i>Was the coin possibly damaged or had something happen to it while in the mail to decrease the grade that much? >>



Market grading plain and simple.....coins can be downgraded for eyeappeal.

pontiacinf

dude NGC does sometimes make mistakes, just like everyone else.

Ive had this happen before, not to that degree but you live and learn.

some were due to my cracking skills, others were mistakes

cheezhed

I don't see how this could happen? There is a tremendous difference between 65 and 62, it's not even subjective any more.