What should I do...BST deal

Vetter · March 30, 2011 4:43AM

I made a deal on the BST board with a member on the 20th, sent a Postal M.O. out on the 22nd and PMed the sell that payment was on it's way. I also asked to let me know when he received payment and when he would be shipping. He has not been on since the 24th and has not answered any emails I have sent him. When should I be worried?
Thanks

Ahrensdad · March 30, 2011 4:48AM

My opinion is that bullion transactions should be completed quickly. Collectors coins should be as well, but the market for collector coins doesn't move with as much volacity. I'd be getting anxious with out any communications. I'd give it a couple days and then up the ante. If you sense there is something more to it (not that he/she is sick, on vacation etc) then you may want to out them now before they can damage others.

Broadstruck · March 30, 2011 4:49AM

Has the other member been online posting since?

May not even have received the payment?

16DMERC · March 30, 2011 5:12AM

Give it a few days...he could be out of town. If you sent out payment tuesday chances are the earliest he recieved it was Friday....

Vetter · March 30, 2011 5:13AM

<< Has the other member been online posting since?

May not even have received the payment? >>

He was last on the 24th and has not posted anything else since the offer on the BST board. He has not answered any emails though.

al410 · March 30, 2011 5:16AM

Patience is not a virtue when it comes to your money. I am not saying anything is wrong, I am saying I would be concerned also. Depends on who it is how concerned I would be. Long time forum members with BST references, not so concerned, New member with bullion for sale, CONCERNED.
AL

jayPem · March 30, 2011 5:24AM

Is this the guy with the CBH ?

lkeigwin · March 30, 2011 5:29AM

I would be concerned. No matter what is delaying things the seller should have a way to get you a reply. He must know you are wondering and probably concerned. Of course dreadful things can happen that would explain his silence/absence.

I'd give it a couple of days more before outing him. It can be done in a way that emphasizes concern for his well being, and a request for help contacting him, instead of calling him a scoundrel...yet.

How long has the seller been a member here? How active is he/she?
Lance.

Vetter · March 30, 2011 5:29AM

<< Is this the guy with the CBH ? >>

No, I don't think so. CBH? It was for a 10oz silver bar.

LindeDad · March 30, 2011 5:33AM

Bump his for sale post asking him to contact you.

ricko · March 30, 2011 5:34AM

Could be the seller has a problem, but, unless he is in a coma or dead, he should at least let you know he will be delayed. Might be time to expose the seller.... that could drive him out into the open. I am not a patient man. Cheers, RickO

Meltdown · March 30, 2011 5:36AM

Well, try to stay optimistic at least through the end of the week. If it's a member here in good standing or a few years under his belt I'd give it the benefit of doubt. Still, I think it's poor form to not keep in contact when you have any type of deal in the works between members.

I hope it all ends well.

tahoe98 · March 30, 2011 5:38AM

...have you ever dealt with this individual before? if not i'd be a little nervous but a little more patient before

outing him. jmo

PerryHall · March 30, 2011 5:39AM

Is this seller a regular poster with a fairly high post count? If so, I wouldn't be too concerned. Did you send payment to a P.O. box?

MilesWaits · March 30, 2011 5:51AM

It does look like he has been here since 2008 with multiple references.

It is difficult to wait; yet, it appears (appears) you are dealing with someone with some history and well over 200 posts.

In the end, your call, your comfort level is what matters!

Miles

mrearlygold · March 30, 2011 6:12AM

Proper communications in any deal is vital and while we all make mistakes, communications are vital.

erwindoc · March 30, 2011 6:15AM

I would be concerned, especially with a MO. I never use them any more. There is no way to track them if they are received, spent, or otherwise.

roadrunner · March 30, 2011 6:18AM

We've had a number of instances of sellers playing games recently. One member was playing both sides of the silver market with other's people money. If it were me, I'd be concerned.
Does the guy's handle start with a "T?"

roadrunner

tahoe98 · March 30, 2011 6:42AM

..HEY! wait a minute!

TwoSides2aCoin · March 30, 2011 6:47AM

Where is the "I don't know what you should do" emotion ?

RGJohn · March 30, 2011 7:07AM

It's very rude of this individual not to have communicated better. I think that USPS money order was a prudent thing to have paid with as the last I knew mail fraud was still taken quite seriously. And MOs most assuredly can be tracked and determined to have been paid or not. If it was cashed at a post office, there will be photos of the person who cashed it.
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Ten ounce bar is in the $400 range. That's far too little to steal to incur any such level of legal problem as this would bring down. I think you'll be OK and this party is just inconsiderate. Let's all take it as a lesson that it is simply impossible to 'over-communicate', especially on a first time deal.

jmski52 · March 30, 2011 7:22AM

Does the guy's handle start with a "T?"

Inquiring minds want to know. If so, you should out him now. If not, you might give it a few more days. Either way, there is no excuse for not communicating right on the front end of the transaction, so that both parties know what to expect.

Vetter · March 30, 2011 7:41AM

<< Does the guy's handle start with a "T?"

Inquiring minds want to know. If so, you should out him now. If not, you might give it a few more days. Either way, there is no excuse for not communicating right on the front end of the transaction, so that both parties know what to expect. >>

No it doesn't start with a "T", but it looks like MilesWaits figured out who he is. I'll give till the start of next week before I let his name out. I agree with everyone, communication is the key to most smooth transactions.

coindeuce · March 30, 2011 8:20AM

<< I would be concerned, especially with a MO. I never use them any more. There is no way to track them if they are received, spent, or otherwise. >>

The bolded part of the above statement is absolutely untrue with regard to Postal money orders. They are serial numbered for a reason. If you have the receipt half of the document, you can verify with the U.S.P.S. if a Money Order has been tendered. And the information entered on it regarding the recipient is always your safeguard against mail fraud.

streeter · March 30, 2011 9:00AM

USPS MO are supposed to cost another $3 to track and there are time requirement hoops to jump through.---If memory serves me but things may have changed.

The seller sure wasn't bashful ABOUT BUMPING HIS THREAD ON THE BST EVERYDAY UNTIL HE CHECKED OUT.

Let's put this way....if he trusted you---wouldn't a check have been acceptable.

Sorry, my computer fouled up---go to the library.
I've been sick-----Hmmmm
My grandma died---for the third time
Dog ate the MO-----I just forgot to call and let you know.

Patience is a virtue...except when it's my money in somebody elses hands that doesn't communicate. You just don't know if he got sidetracked or forgot about you.
HOPE IT GOES TOGETHER.

Vetter · March 31, 2011 11:53PM

Just an update......still no PM, email or 10oz bar. I was going to wait till Monday to give a name, but I think tomorrw is all I can wait. It makes me sick to think that the amount I paid "MIGHT" be worth someones reputation. I just pray that nothing bad has happened to the seller and he just might be laid up at this time being he hasen't visited the site since May 24th.

crazyhounddog · April 1, 2011 1:01AM

My opinion, this guy should reply to all of your messages, no excuses unless something terrible has happened. Before I will send someone money, I want his e-mail address and make sure there will be a line of communication open at all times, this should be the standard. I would be a bit nervous at this point....Joe

stevek · April 1, 2011 1:14AM

<< My opinion, this guy should reply to all of your messages, no excuses unless something terrible has happened. Before I will send someone money, I want his e-mail address and make sure there will be a line of communication open at all times, this should be the standard. I would be a bit nervous at this point....Joe >>

If it's for more money than I can afford to lose, I won't send a money order to USPS PO boxes, those UPS or storefront PO Boxes, or an apartment...I'm not saying any of those would always be bad, of course not, but they are much riskier than sending money to a house or business, whereby if a problem does occur, small claims court can be a remedy.

What should I do...BST deal

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