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What would you grade this coin? 1938-D/D Buffalo

llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
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What would you grade this coin? It's in a Secure Plus MS67 holder... do you agree with this grade?

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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Nice D/D
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes... from the pictures, I agree..... Cheers, RickO
  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice buff!!!

    I'm not sure how to grade this series, but it sure has some nice eye appeal.

    Do YOU agree with the PCGS grade? From the OP comments, it seems that you have some issues with the grade.

    So, what do YOU think?
  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Nice buff!!!

    I'm not sure how to grade this series, but it sure has some nice eye appeal.

    Do YOU agree with the PCGS grade? From the OP comments, it seems that you have some issues with the grade.

    So, what do YOU think? >>



    I don't know how to grade the series either... that's why it's in a PCGS coffin. image Hopefully crazyhounddog will jump in and post his thoughts.
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a MS67 based on the image but a lot would depend on the luster, which is difficult to tell from this (and many) TruViews. Nice looking coin -- I hope it's yours!

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Looks like a MS67 based on the image but a lot would depend on the luster, which is difficult to tell from this (and many) TruViews. Nice looking coin -- I hope it's yours! >>



    I agree... it has brilliant luster. I was really disappointed in the TrueView images. Both the 1940 and this coin have a lot more color and a LOT more luster! image
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a very nice buff, no question about that. I agree the true view leaves a lot to be desired as I believe they are hitting the coin with way to much light and as a result it may look as the luster is lacking, but I'm sure the luster is just booming on this coin. I agree with the grade, this Buff is gorgeous from what I can see. If the images were better, where we could all see the luster, it would be much easier to judge the piece.
    Let me go on to say with to much light it also has a tendency to make any coin look flat as far as details go, no shadow= no depth...
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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    Maybe crazyhounddog is right. From the pictures, it doesn't look hammered, which is what I like to see in a 38-D. The hair above the braid is a bit flat, no split in the tail and the shoulder could be better. The color is outstanding and the luster looks good to. Assuming there are no noticeable hits, I would grade this coin a 66. But it could be better in person. Either way, nice coin!
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imageimage

    Here's a nice one....image It would have been a lot nicer if a restoration expert didn't get a hold of it....
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe crazyhounddog is right. From the pictures, it doesn't look hammered, which is what I like to see in a 38-D. The hair above the braid is a bit flat, no split in the tail and the shoulder could be better. The color is outstanding and the luster looks good to. Assuming there are no noticeable hits, I would grade this coin a 66. But it could be better in person. Either way, nice coin! >>



    I agree with above and wanted to add some photo comments. Buffs can be tricky to image. When they have color you need 3 lights becuase there are so many odd spaces to light up, but.....you lose lots of detail in doing this. You lose all the hair detail. Toned buff images seem destined to look like weak strikes. Making a toned buff look hammered is tricky as a function of lighting.

    Here are a couple more 67's to look at:

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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    Is that some doubling on the rear legs of the OP's coin?
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    stupid question of the day:

    does secure plus mean it got sniffed first? (Im not yanking chains, really do not know much about that yet)

    I wouldnt venture a grade guess but thats one nice buffalo indeed!
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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>stupid question of the day:

    does secure plus mean it got sniffed first? (Im not yanking chains, really do not know much about that yet)

    I wouldnt venture a grade guess but thats one nice buffalo indeed! >>



    Yes, the Buffalo had to be sniffed before it was slabbed! image
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