Best way to "Crack" Cards?

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 1:39AM

So I've got to send some cards into beckett (Simply because at high grades they sell more consistently than psa)

Most of these cards are in "junk" random grading holders like pro/gem etc, but are still extremely solid cards (Assuming they aren't altered)

When I called up and asked the cracking fee basically the Indian on the other line (Sorry I mean customer service rep?) kept saying there was a "review" fee of $10, and the cracking fee of $3 per card.

I don't mind paying the cracking fee to ensure a "pro" does it, but I see no need for the review fee because regardless I want the card in the bgs holder even if it is low grade.

So my question really is, should I keep calling until I get someone who understands my question, or crack them out? (One is a jumbo card I don't have a sleeve/loader or anything for, and I don't use semi rigid I only have top loaders)

CNote · February 22, 2011 1:54AM

Tell them you don't care what the grade is, so no review is needed. "I just want it in your slab, then graded like a new card."

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 1:57AM

<< Tell them you don't care what the grade is, so no review is needed. "I just want it in your slab, then graded like a new card." >>

I sat there for 15 minutes telling her that, didn't seem to understand.

CrazyMind2017 · February 22, 2011 2:16AM

So is Beckett definitely outsourcing their customer service phone jobs to India, or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass by assuming her ethnicity? I assure you, there are plenty of stupid and incompetent people of all races and backgrounds.

Crack the cards out with a pair of pliers or a thick nail and hammer.

HeritageAddict · February 22, 2011 2:19AM

Nice racial slur to start the day. If you have access to a band saw it makes short work of cracking slabs.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 2:20AM

<< So is Beckett definitely outsourcing their customer service phone jobs to India, or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass by assuming her ethnicity? I assure you, there are plenty of stupid and incompetent people of all races and backgrounds.

Crack the cards out with a pair of pliers or a thick nail and hammer. >>

Almost sure its outsourced... Most of the different ethnicities who work CS in the US still atleast try and listen and understand,
the person I spoke to was ignoring what I was saying and immediately saying "I understand I understand", when I finally said,
"No you don't understand" she forwarded me to someones voice mail.

<< Nice racial slur to start the day. If you have access to a band saw it makes short work of cracking slabs. >>

Just how I like it. I'd have to look around I don't think I have one though.

There is one like a junkier version of a PSA slab, but the others don't have "separate" compartments from the label and card, it is basically just above the card in the case.

hhmag70 · February 22, 2011 2:26AM

Try searching "crack open" as this topic has been covered with multiple threads an should give you an answer.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 2:28AM

<< Try searching "crack open" as this topic has been covered with multiple threads an should give you an answer. >>

If you weren't trying to be hall monitor jr and actually read, you would know that isn't my only question on this thread.
*edit- Also I've posted before, can't figure out how to get my search function to work, I've sat there with it for 20 minutes before but I get a stupid error

hhmag70 · February 22, 2011 2:33AM

<< 

<< Try searching "crack open" as this topic has been covered with multiple threads and should give you an answer. >>

If you weren't trying to be hall monitor jr and actually read, you would know that isn't my only question on this thread. >>

I just pointed you to an answer to one of your questions and this is your response. That is why you are a complete douchebag.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 2:34AM

Whatever, seemed like you were trying to be a smartass with the comment.

vladguerrero · February 22, 2011 4:26AM

The info from the service rep was correct, what don't you understand? They do a review to determine if the card is worthy of crossing, then charge a cracking fee, then the grading fee. BGS isn't cheap fro crossovers, PSA is WAY cheaper. You should definitely crack yourself because of te associated fee's and type of cards you are submitting, not like they are PSA 10's or anything.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 4:29AM

<< The info from the service rep was correct, what don't you understand? They do a review to determine if the card is worthy of crossing, then charge a cracking fee, then the grading fee. BGS isn't cheap fro crossovers, PSA is WAY cheaper. You should definitely crack yourself because of te associated fee's and type of cards you are submitting, not like they are PSA 10's or anything. >>

I'm expecting a couple of them (Assuming they are real/unaltered) to come back 9-10.

What I am saying is, I don't care one way or another for them to "review it", I want them to crack it, and grade it as if I sent it in raw - rather than me cracking it... But guessing from what you said that isn't possible?

vladguerrero · February 22, 2011 4:41AM

I would highly recommend cracking yourself as it gives you the ability to view the surface and wipe any finger prints which could have even come from the last grading company. My only experience is doing crossovers (which they only charge the grading and cracking fee's if the review shows it will cross by the way), I doubt they would want to crack them for you when they are only making the extra $3.

Aric · February 22, 2011 4:55AM

<< 

I just pointed you to an answer to one of your questions and this is your response. >>

No, you did not point him to an answer. You told him to search for it. The search function has not worked for some time.

Edit: The search function doesn't work with Chrome but does seem to work fine with Firefox.

bking · February 22, 2011 4:57AM

<< 

<< The info from the service rep was correct, what don't you understand? They do a review to determine if the card is worthy of crossing, then charge a cracking fee, then the grading fee. BGS isn't cheap fro crossovers, PSA is WAY cheaper. You should definitely crack yourself because of te associated fee's and type of cards you are submitting, not like they are PSA 10's or anything. >>

I'm expecting a couple of them (Assuming they are real/unaltered) to come back 9-10.

What I am saying is, I don't care one way or another for them to "review it", I want them to crack it, and grade it as if I sent it in raw - rather than me cracking it... But guessing from what you said that isn't possible? >>

Probably not - why would they crack it for you for free? They would be taking on liability without any payback, hence the rather hefty up-front review fee.

Get out your hacksaw..... it's easy with a miter box.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 5:01AM

I assumed I'd pay them 3$ to crack it, and the standard grading fee... Since they keep your grading fee if they don't grade the card regardless

hhmag70 · February 22, 2011 5:02AM

<< 

<< 

I just pointed you to an answer to one of your questions and this is your response. >>

No, you did not point him to an answer. You told him to search for it. The search function has not worked for some time.

Edit: The search function doesn't work with Chrome but does seem to work fine with Firefox. >>

I pointed him to the exact words to search and it worked just fine when I checked what words to use for him.

Sean1125 · February 22, 2011 5:03AM

Every time I use search I get this...

<< The page you were accessing requires variables to be passed to it. Error Code: 100 >>

bking · February 22, 2011 5:08AM

<< Nice racial slur to start the day. If you have access to a band saw it makes short work of cracking slabs. >>

Not to derail things, but how is that necessarily a racial slur on its face? If he detected an Indian accent, knows that many CS operations have offshored to India, AND runs into communication issues to boot, isn't he merely complaining that this confluence of factors made his request difficult and annoying?

Substitute "slacker skateboard kid working the counter at Wendy's" and probably no one complains about his characterization, right?

Aric · February 22, 2011 6:18AM

<< Every time I use search I get this...

<< The page you were accessing requires variables to be passed to it. Error Code: 100 >>

>>

That's the same error I get with Chrome, try using Firefox.

swartz1 · February 22, 2011 6:36AM

I would not send an "off brand" grading to company to any third party grader and expect them to offer an unbiased opinion...

for the same reason I would never use the review service from PSA...

send them in raw...

I concur with the above post...bandsaw...

I walk down the woodshop and use the bandsaw (works like a charm everytime)

bking · February 22, 2011 6:47AM

<< I would not send an "off brand" grading to company to any third party grader and expect them to offer an unbiased opinion...

for the same reason I would never use the review service from PSA...

send them in raw...

I concur with the above post...bandsaw...

I walk down the woodshop and use the bandsaw (works like a charm everytime) >>

Yep, I can't remember the last time I used my miter saw for anything other than slabs.

thenavarro · February 22, 2011 6:59AM

Someone may have already covered the cracking part but if not, here's how I do mine. I didn't read past the first couple of posts once I saw the tone the thread was going.

This is by no means the only method, just my method and its one I'm comfortable with. Proceed at your own risk, I'm not responsible if you choose to try this and screw up your card.

Camera phone pics so not that good quality

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