Gamble Gamble !! UPDATE, Lot Received
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I keep waiting on one of these to burn me, but if you've got a good horse you run it. Another seller that knows nothing about sportscards. I bought a couple of vintage football lots from her over a year ago and it was filled with stars. We'll see. This is cheaper than buying vintage unopened and gambling, lol.
'68 - '72 Topps lot
'68 - '72 Topps lot
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<< <i>Damn, I thought this was an Oscar Gamble mega-afro thread... >>
Me Too! I loved his big afro!
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Yes, I sell a ton of graded cards, but haven't really been grading anything from these years unless a low pop, or solid 9.
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<< <i>I keep waiting on one of these to burn me, but if you've got a good horse you run it. Another seller that knows nothing about sportscards. I bought a couple of vintage football lots from her over a year ago and it was filled with stars. We'll see. This is cheaper than buying vintage unopened and gambling, lol.
Hope you hit a homerun. good luck
I saw were you scored pretty good on the recent football lot (really amazes me that in this day and age no one had gone through the football) and like you would have loved to have seen what was in the baseball lot that you missed out on.
started laughing and thought I was having a heart attack, was thinking that if I dropped dead today, my 2 boys would have about 40 to 50 3200 count boxes ranging from 1958 to 1998 (all 4 sports) to take to the dump or have someone run them on ebay and I am sure that whoever won a box or lot would probably be not to happy when they opened the box to find them all in numerical order and just maybe a few minor stars left. But I guess that is why they call it gambling. LOL
<< <i>You'll have better luck with a few of my lots launching in 2 hours on ebay. 69, 70 and 72 topps. tons of cards in 8 quality in the 72 lot. other lots have some 8 quality also.
Yes, I sell a ton of graded cards, but haven't really been grading anything from these years unless a low pop, or solid 9.
here is a link to my auctions. these lots launch 5:00pm pacific
Linky to auctions >>
Where did you pick up the PSA 10 '67 Jenkins and '68 Killebrew? Did you sub them yourself? Looks like some nice action on them ... hopefully for you there is a lot more at the end!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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<< <i>You'll have better luck with a few of my lots launching in 2 hours on ebay. 69, 70 and 72 topps. tons of cards in 8 quality in the 72 lot. other lots have some 8 quality also.
Yes, I sell a ton of graded cards, but haven't really been grading anything from these years unless a low pop, or solid 9.
here is a link to my auctions. these lots launch 5:00pm pacific
Linky to auctions >>
Where did you pick up the PSA 10 '67 Jenkins and '68 Killebrew? Did you sub them yourself? Looks like some nice action on them ... hopefully for you there is a lot more at the end! >>
There is also a 1967 Topps Frank Robby in 10...its a 1of1
yes, hope to do better in the last hour here. all 3 PSA 10 hall of famers are on consignment.
"If I ever decided to do a book, I've already got the title-The Bases Were Loaded and So Was I"-Jim Fregosi
<< <i>You'll have better luck with a few of my lots launching in 2 hours on ebay. 69, 70 and 72 topps. tons of cards in 8 quality in the 72 lot. other lots have some 8 quality also.
Yes, I sell a ton of graded cards, but haven't really been grading anything from these years unless a low pop, or solid 9.
here is a link to my auctions. these lots launch 5:00pm pacific
Linky to auctions >>
do your lots have stars in them? Have you looked through them? That's why I buy these lots from sellers that don't sell cards and end auctions like this in the morning or include an unopened box of '88 score because they think it greatly enhances the lot value. Is it gambling? Yes. So is buying unopened and ripping. I've had nice success doing this thus far, and like I said, I've purchased a couple of 500 or so count football lots from this same lady over a year ago, possibly the last time she listed cards, for cheap and it was full of stars and rookies.
There are still people that have no clue as to the value of stuff, especially old cardboard.
I would.
If you're paying with paypal, you're really only risking the cost of return shipment.
<< <i>If the biggest stars are the cards showing, are you going to return it?
I would.
If you're paying with paypal, you're really only risking the cost of return shipment. >>
that's the thing, there are no stars showing. I'd be more worried if there were a few stars showing. It would mean that the seller knew a little something.
Not having stars displayed in the ebay pictures of a vintage lot of thousands of cards, is like a pedeph with candy. Trusting the 'unknowing' brings more suckers in then actually trusting the trusted. BWAHHHHHH !'
That 71/72 lot made me salivate.
"I've purchased a couple of 500 or so count football lots from this same lady over a year ago" uhhhhhhhhh huh huh beavis. The lady sure does know her 500 count boxes.
On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere
I met up with the gambler, we were both too tired to sleep
So we took turns a starin' out the window at the darkness
'Til boredom overtook us and he began to speak
He said, "Son, I've made a life, out of readin' people's faces
And knowin' what their cards were by the way they held their eyes
So if you don't mind my sayin', I can see you're out of aces
For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice"
So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow
Then he bummed a cigarette and asked me for a light
And the night got deathly quiet and his face lost all expression
Said, "If you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta learn to play it right"
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
Every gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner and every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep
And when he finished speakin', he turned back towards the window
Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep
And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke even
But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
<< <i>There is not anyone on ebay that does not know what they are selling. Especially sports cards. If they did not know what they had, then they would not know about ebay.
Not having stars displayed in the ebay pictures of a vintage lot of thousands of cards, is like a pedeph with candy. Trusting the 'unknowing' brings more suckers in then actually trusting the trusted. BWAHHHHHH !'
That 71/72 lot made me salivate.
"I've purchased a couple of 500 or so count football lots from this same lady over a year ago" uhhhhhhhhh huh huh beavis. The lady sure does know her 500 count boxes. >>
how do you explain the football lot I just bought for $288 with a ton of gradeable stars and rookies? I'm gonna at least triple my money easily and the seller (consignment seller) had no clue. They put up a few pictures of random cards and the only star that was in the pictures was a Jack Ham rookie. There were 4 of them in the lot. They literally just picked up some cards and took pictures. The only reason they did that is because a lot of people were asking for pictures. If you don't think that there are still people that don't have a clue as to what they have then you are badly mistaken.
Especially these odds and ends dealers who don't deal in sportscards and has the occasional person come in with a box full of stuff including some cards.
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<< <i>If the biggest stars are the cards showing, are you going to return it?
I would.
If you're paying with paypal, you're really only risking the cost of return shipment. >>
that's the thing, there are no stars showing. I'd be more worried if there were a few stars showing. It would mean that the seller knew a little something. >>
Except they do claim to know something. They claim they recognized famous names in the lot, but chose not to picture any of them?
If you were happy with previous purchases from this seller, then they may just be unusally lazy in how they list their auctions. I was thinking their game might be to remain non-commital about the contents so they can include enough star cards to keep the buyer from seeking a refund and allow a profit on whatever the final price turns out to be.
<< <i>There is not anyone on ebay that does not know what they are selling. Especially sports cards. If they did not know what they had, then they would not know about ebay.
Not having stars displayed in the ebay pictures of a vintage lot of thousands of cards, is like a pedeph with candy. Trusting the 'unknowing' brings more suckers in then actually trusting the trusted. BWAHHHHHH !'
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Good Morning,
So So Not True, there are deals/money to be made every day if you have time to spend. A couple of weeks ago I saw an auction for 6 1950 Bowman, fuzzy picture, cards described as Excellent. Lady sells records, one auction out of 100 is the Bowman. So throw a bid out, .50 cents higher then open of $20. Win the lot, recieve the cards and am floored. 3 of the 6 are rookies, one is easy 7.5 or 8, at least 3 are NM 7's, maybe one or two 6's. They are on the way to PSA as I type. I check her auctions that day, lot of 11 each 1950 & 1951 Bowman and 1951 Topps Magic Football, same fuzzy picture, throw an opening bid + .50 cents, win, should have cards tomorrow, expect the same thing.
Same day, won a Pre-War (WW II) Non Sport lot of 57 cards, poor description and title, good pictures, but just of the lot, no real good closeups, from an estate find, doesn't normally sell cards, mostly antiques/furniture, 300 auctions two are cards. Last lot like this I bought for a couple hundred, spent another two hundred on PSA, first off E-bay deal for 20 of the cards was for $900, overall I have made about 3K profit on the deal!!
Neil
But actually you're right--as long as the the commons are ex-mt to NM, then you should do ok even if they pulled the major star cards. Anything below that is tough to move though.
Rare" Vintage?
I think Tommy may have hit the mother lode.
If not he can always return it.
<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
Sounds like a great business model - not much "gambling" involved if you can buy everything on spec.
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<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
The lot came with a 7 day return policy, so the buyer's taking advantage of that. I don't see why he should have to provide any information outside of that.
but this is a tough one. YOu kindof bought something you liked bc you didnt know what you were going to get . but then when it wasnt super amazing the rush was gone and you wanted your money back but you got your rush
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<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
The lot came with a 7 day return policy, so the buyer's taking advantage of that. I don't see why he should have to provide any information outside of that. >>
Is that how your gonna roll with this one?
Let me ask you boopotts, do you feel that it is taking advantage of the 7 day return policy? Is that how you feel it should be? Unless corvette says otherwise, I have no reason to believe he received anything less than what he was bidding on, in his own admition a GAMBLE. Because he ONLY received exactly what he paid for, in the condition he paid for, do you feel that is terms for returning an item and completely ethical and something you have done?
UNSEARCHED. heh heh.
not as described. i don't think Tommy deserves anything other than a pat on the back for doing what the rest of us didn't have the cajones to do......just another day on eBay.
(1st black one)
I'd return it too.
Seller made at least 3 claims that could be challenged.
come on red s
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Seller made at least 3 claims that could be challenged. >>
What exactly are the 3 claims?
<< <i>So how many cards did you switch out before sending it back??
all of them. I sent back 1800+ '88 Score cards.
Tommy's use of "gambl[ing]" in this thread was for entertainment purposes.
This is nothing less than an item not described.
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<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
The lot came with a 7 day return policy, so the buyer's taking advantage of that. I don't see why he should have to provide any information outside of that. >>
Is that how your gonna roll with this one?
Let me ask you boopotts, do you feel that it is taking advantage of the 7 day return policy? Is that how you feel it should be? Unless corvette says otherwise, I have no reason to believe he received anything less than what he was bidding on, in his own admition a GAMBLE. Because he ONLY received exactly what he paid for, in the condition he paid for, do you feel that is terms for returning an item and completely ethical and something you have done? >>
Yes, I do think it's ethical. If someone offers a return policy I assume that means 'if you're unhappy with this purchase for whatever reason you can return it for a full refund'. Which is exactly what the buyer is doing.
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<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
The lot came with a 7 day return policy, so the buyer's taking advantage of that. I don't see why he should have to provide any information outside of that. >>
Well, since he shared the entire transaction with us......what's one more detail.
As a seller, I detest the idea that someone can take my item off the market, see that it meets the auction description but NOT his expectations, and then return it so I can go through the whole listing process again. Not to mention lost opportunity costs if the bidders on the first listing have moved on. You know, all the things we sellers complain about in the "bad buyer" threads....
Now, this is all contingent on the lot NOT being as described, but I haven't heard any indication this is true.
EDIT: Well, a bunch of posts were made while I was editing mine, so here's my new take.
One, the auction says nothing about stars that I can see. It sounds, by my reading, like a lot they bought and are passing on as-is. So, "unsearched" is quite possibly accurate, although the cards pulled for display in the photos makes "unsearched" sound like "not cherry-picked" more likely. A seller not really acquainted with baseball cards could easily have considered guys like Martin, Valentine, Torre and McGraw (guys with name appeal to casual fans) as the highlight of the set - IOW the cards to display. Any assumptions beyond the fairly clear listing are on the buyer IMO. Tommy admits he's scored big off this seller before, all but labelling her an easy mark, so caveat emptor here IMO.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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<< <i>So why did you return them? Was something not described accurately? Or can you just not make enough money off of it? >>
The lot came with a 7 day return policy, so the buyer's taking advantage of that. I don't see why he should have to provide any information outside of that. >>
Well, since he shared the entire transaction with us......what's one more detail.
As a seller, I detest the idea that someone can take my item off the market, see that it meets the auction description but NOT his expectations, and then return it so I can go through the whole listing process again. Not to mention lost opportunity costs if the bidders on the first listing have moved on. You know, all the things we sellers complain about in the "bad buyer" threads....
Now, this is all contingent on the lot NOT being as described, but I haven't heard any indication this is true. >>
don't question that, he believed she didn't search them other than to take pics, etc.. and doesn't know about cards, but yet takes her word for it that famous names to her actually mean something without asking what famous names she actually was referring too.
This can be twisted anyway you guys want, but I have a hard time believing the OP took a GAMBLE as he stated, knew it was when bidding, then didn't get to double or triple up on his money and so then lets the seller have all the leftovers to deal with.
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As a seller, I detest the idea that someone can take my item off the market, see that it meets the auction description but NOT his expectations, and then return it so I can go through the whole listing process again. Not to mention lost opportunity costs if the bidders on the first listing have moved on. You know, all the things we sellers complain about in the "bad buyer" threads.... >>
That's business.
<< <i>Now, this is all contingent on the lot NOT being as described, but I haven't heard any indication this is true. >>
If one of the approximately 2,000 cards has a pin hole in it then the listing is not as described.
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As a seller, I detest the idea that someone can take my item off the market, see that it meets the auction description but NOT his expectations, and then return it so I can go through the whole listing process again. Not to mention lost opportunity costs if the bidders on the first listing have moved on. You know, all the things we sellers complain about in the "bad buyer" threads.... >>
That's business.
<< <i>Now, this is all contingent on the lot NOT being as described, but I haven't heard any indication this is true. >>
If one of the approximately 2,000 cards has a pin hole in it then the listing is not as described. >>
That's a ridiculously high bar. ANYONE buying an "unsearched" lot of ~2000 cards described as "APPEARS TO BE MINT TO VERY GOOD" HAS to expect a dud or two to be in there. To say otherwise is silly, IMO.
EDIT: And as for it being "business", I not naive and I realize that. I just don't have to join the "Attaboy chorus" when someone's "look at how savvy I am" threads crashes.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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