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Need help grading two newp $20 Libertys.....

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Grading gold is certainly not my strong point.

I don't know if I should send these in for grading or not.

What grades do you give these? (obverse side only).

Thanks!

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm gonna go with 58 and 62
    Early Dollar Set
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd grade the 1904 AU-58 and the 1900 MS-62, going by the obverses which all you are giving us.

    Getting them slabbed is worthwhile because they will be easier to sell when the time comes. They are not in great grades, but they are better than just bullion pieces.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,275 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd grade the 1904 AU-58 and the 1900 MS-62, going by the obverses which all you are giving us.

    Getting them slabbed is worthwhile because they will be easier to sell when the time comes. They are not in great grades, but they are better than just bullion pieces. >>



    Based on the worse grade of AU58.

    What premium over spot would a coin like this 'quickly' sell for?
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 14 Gray Sheet numbers:

    Spot gold $1,373.70

    Common date Type III $20 Liberty AU-58 bid/ask $1,440/$1,500 Those numbers might be little high because most dealers resist paying "bid" for these coins, but you will get even less for raw coins.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I like the grades assigned by the first two posters. Seems right to me.

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    MS61
    MS63
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
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  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    ms60, ms62
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Ms62 and ms64
  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077 ✭
    The 1904 is pretty dinged up. I'd market grade it AU55 but it might make 61 if someone called it MS. $1400 for a quick sale.

    The 1900 is nicer. An honest 62 with a shot at 63. Worth submitting and would easily bring $1600 in a 62 holder. As is it should bring $1500 pretty quick.

    This is assuming the reverses have no problems.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55 & 58
    All glory is fleeting.
  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1904: AU55 or possibly AU58

    1900: MS62
  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ms60

    ms61 maybe 62

    don't bother sending them in they are just fine raw!
    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    58 and 62+, shot 63.
  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    58 & 63. The first one might 61 if thats strke weakness on the hair and not wear.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭


    << <i> The first one might 61 if thats strke weakness on the hair and not wear. >>



    Why are you even considering strike weakness when there is obvious wear on the neck, face, and brow?
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55 and 61

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58, 62.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58...
    MS62...
    Ebay items for sale Current BIN's / The Kingdom Collection
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55
    63
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,882 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Count me in with all the othe "58, 62" votes.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution

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