Better results when cracking out or submitting raw?

AnkurJ

I have a few coins in NGC and ANACS holders, and was wondering if I should send them in crossovers or crack them out. None of them are BIG value coins, all under $500. For people who have sent in both, which do you recommend, and which have you had better success with?

I know PCGS can be unkind with coins in NGC holders

Ankur

jmj3esq

If you feel good about a cross or an upgrade crack them....period. I have had excellent results. I just feel better when the grader is looking at a raw coin and not a coin in some other holder.

ChrisRx

<< <i>Definitely raw however if the risk is to great then better not to crack. >>



That sums it up.

AnkurJ

Here is what I am planning on sending in. The busties are for my registry.



NGC AU53


This one I think is undergraded:




NGC G6:


AJ

jmj3esq

they look pretty good on the grade. Maybe the Oregon could get a MS64. Not a big jump in value. Its the most common one.

The Bust Half...not sure. Any chance it was cleaned long ago? If so keep it where it lies. It looks nice though. Probably correctly graded.

Id leave the draped quarter how it is. PCGS will bag these things for about any reason.

Thats just my opinion.

In any event, if you send them all in you wont be gambling that much. The thrill may be enough...Good luck.

morgandollar1878

To me it would depend if you wanted them back at any grade, or if you wanted them to cross at a minimum specified grade. Don't crack'em if you want them back at no lower than grade xx. Crack'em if it does not matter to you.

Edited to add: Personally I don't think that it matters if you leave them in the holders or not. You can get dinged both ways, but if you break them out and they get the infamous "genuine" label, then you loose.

AnkurJ

Well I would like them in graded holders rather than genuine. So I think I might be better off sending them as a crossover with no minimum grade.

DennisH

I always specify a minimum grade of some kind... otherwise a "Genuine" holder is possible.

derryb

Didn't you defeat the whole purpose of cracking them out by posting their holders on PCGS's forum?

AnkurJ

I won't be cracking them. At least if they don't cross I can sell them as is.

ricko

Such dilemmas... and somewhere, someone, is wondering ................ oh nevermind... Cheers, RickO

PerryHall

Why aren't you happy with the holders they are in now? They look properly graded. If it were me, I'd use the grading money to buy a new coin.

djdilliodon

An experienced collector knows when he/she sees a nice coin. The plastic the coin is in disappears as they view it. I personally will only send a coin back if I feel it will get a higher grade.

AnkurJ

Well I wanted a nicer 1832 for my bust half registry set. Same with the 1807, only registry purposes. I'm not going to send in the oregon or the bust quarter, just the three halves.

AngryTurtle

One thing you can do is both: first send it in as a crossover with some minimum grade, then if you still want to try and are convinced it should go , crackout and send in again. This way you give the grading company a chance to put it in their holder before you take the irreversible step of cracking it out.

mozin

PCGS will refuse to cross many NGC/ANACS graded coins because of questionable color, or cleaning. Cracking coins out, and submitting raw could well mean you will be left with raw coins.

I do believe PCGS is more generous with grading raw coins, part of the reason being that the graders can better see the raw coins.

Bear

1. Do not do it

2. If you must do it, leave them in holders

3. Good luck, on what ever you decide to do.

robkool

There should be no problem cracking the 1806 & 1807 busties... But those high grade toner halves might be a problem. Could result in AT.
Good luck...

Halfhunter06

Send them in raw AnkurJ.