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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Nysoto,

    Thanks for the additional education. I knew it was a fake, but I had the benefit of knowing the source of the coin.

    Russ, NCNE
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>very similar to this one
    but yours has been hit with a torch

    image
    image

    my pictured coin on eBay currently at $2 delivered >>



    nice catch. i can see the word copy in russ's example too now. easy when you
    know where to look.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>very similar to this one
    but yours has been hit with a torch

    image
    image

    my pictured coin on eBay currently at $2 delivered >>



    nice catch. i can see the word copy in russ's example too now. easy when you
    know where to look. >>

    Maybe it's easy for you, but I can't see it.

    image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    There is no word copy on mine.

    Russ, NCNE
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There is no word copy on mine.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    It looks like it DID have the word "COPY", but was removed. Very subtle.
    Tom

  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭


    << <i>just curious jdillane, did you ever pay for the one that was sent to you or did you just rip the guy off ? >>



    As mentioned, I would pay - if I liked the coin. I did not like the coin because it was a counterfeit. I did not like that it was sent as a genuine. If not paying for the coin was ripping off this crook, then I am guilty. What would you suggest that I do, ship it back to China?

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears the photo that Sinin1 posted of the fake has COPY photoshopped onto the coin, it does not look like it was stamped as it has not taken on the dark AT applied to the rest of the coin. The Chinese counterfeiters will do this, I have heard. So the coin Russ posted may not have had COPY tooled off as it may never had it stamped when sold.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It appears the photo that Sinin1 posted of the fake has COPY photoshopped onto the coin, it does not look like it was stamped as it has not taken on the dark AT applied to the rest of the coin. The Chinese counterfeiters will do this, I have heard. So the coin Russ posted may not have had COPY tooled off as it may never had it stamped when sold. >>



    The one I posted had the word copy 'shopped in to the image when I bought it on eBay.

    Russ, NCNE
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Am I the only one image
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I changed my mind -

    yours might not have been torched
    but possibly some liver of sulfur powder


    what is on the edge?
  • it wouldn't...
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    nice catch. i can see the word copy in russ's example too now. easy when you
    know where to look. >>

    Maybe it's easy for you, but I can't see it.

    >>



    i am looking in the same general area as the "stamped" coin. i thought i could clearly
    see the remainder of a faint C as well as the top of the O.

    Sure looks that way from the pic and it seems another poster is seeing
    what I am seeing.

    but with russ having the coin in hand i am sure he is right if it was
    never stamped. just sure looks suspicious based on the picture.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No at here or across the street. ED.
    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Counterfeit. >>



    image

    Hair curls under B and E, should be under E and R. image >>

    What's wrong with the hair curls? Not sayin' it's real, just asking about the diagnostic.
    Lance.

    OP
    image

    Real
    image
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45 details... Altered surface/cleaned. Possibly non-genuine...
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>XF45 details... Altered surface/cleaned. Possibly non-genuine... >>

    You can omit the word "possibly" and everything else preceding "non-genuine", as it has been established that the coin is counterfeit.

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