Newp 3 Cent Feuchtwanger thanks to Ambro51

HoledandCreative

melvin289

Bet that hole was made with a square nail, whatever you call a square nail.

Ron

ricko

Yep... likely nailed over the door as a good luck symbol (it 'welcomed' money into the house). Cheers, RickO

ambro51

Well Im glad you like it. Id most likely have been a strong bidder if it was undamaged, even though I already have a specimen of the HT263. Ive not seen this particular piece offered for sale before, nor seen any mention of it in the research Ive done. A small population of 30-50 or so...if you scan enough auction records you can get to iknow them all pretty well.

not too many of these around....this is an R5 and even back in early auction records back to the 19th century it is mentioned "not many of this variety struck".

The chronology of the Feuchtwanger issues is pretty much a matter of speculation, and I think this type may be the FIRST of the three cent pieces, rather than the NY shield. This is the heaviest of the three cent pieces, and the good Doctor fought with plachet issues such as massive cracks. The NY shield was thinner, and the last two issues were thinner still.

Its very difficult to tell exactly what was going on here, possibly a planchet defect led to a hole, and that was either plugged (which is now gone) or the hole made by a square nail, as mentioned.

Glad you enjoy it!!!!

Deagle74

Nice
Interesting piece!

Rok

ambro51

BTW thats about a $3,000 hit on the price because of that hole!

lordmarcovan

Very groovy. Cool coin, cool holey.

I might be the "Holey of Holeys", but you've got me consistenly outdone, H&C.

DorkGirl

but that hole is in the worst possible spot....

ambro51

Yeah the hole, taking away part of the eagles face there.....

but I really think whatever happened here wasnt not the result of someone intentionally drilling or creating a hole for suspension or nailing....but rather a 'manipulation' or repair attempt at a hole that was the result of one of the numerous planchet defects these pieces have. What I notice on your coin is that there seems to be a classic planchet crack coming off the lower part of the 'hole'. These cracks can appear with or without a lamination/defect in the planchet. Take a look at the two HT262s here, the one on the left has a crack coming out from the defect, while the one on the right does not...but that on has the hole all the way through the planchet, while the one on the left is not actually holed.

ambro51

Just noticed also on the OP coin there appears to be a planchet fissure on the top edge of the wing. not unusual to see mutiple planchet defects on the same coin.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

<< <i>Yeah the hole, taking away part of the eagles face there.....

but I really think whatever happened here wasnt not the result of someone intentionally drilling or creating a hole for suspension or nailing....but rather a 'manipulation' or repair attempt at a hole that was the result of one of the numerous planchet defects these pieces have. What I notice on your coin is that there seems to be a classic planchet crack coming off the lower part of the 'hole'. These cracks can appear with or without a lamination/defect in the planchet. Take a look at the two HT262s here, the one on the left has a crack coming out from the defect, while the one on the right does not...but that on has the hole all the way through the planchet, while the one on the left is not actually holed.
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The coin posted by the OP clearly has a deliberate hole. It has forced the metal to bulge out of the original circular shape of the coin. This elongation/stretching of the metal is what likely caused the small crack.

I don't see how that hole could be a repair attempt. You can plainly see that the coin was pressed up against something and had a nailed hit through it, evidenced by the concave nature of the hole on the obverse and the smushed extra metal on the reverse.

ambro51

Yeah, who really knows. but, it probably would be easier to put in a plug of soft lead or something, if the hole was egged out to a square shape.


The Kool factor is all there though if you are collecing holed specimens. thats all that matters really, it went to a specialist!~

HoledandCreative

I appreciate all of the comments. Thanks.