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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Upgrade? Who knows.

    Looks very clean on the obverse, but the spot on the Eagle's breast on the reverse grabs my eye and has me concerned.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • some of the hits are on the slab (one is accut on lower rightof cheek) since its in an old no line fatty. The spot on the back under close magnification looks to be a toning mark.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not likely (nothing is certain when dealing with opinions).. dings on eagle and Liberty's cap... Cheers, RickO
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No upgrade. This coin is maxed out at 66.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. The spot on eagle kills it. It's a nice coin but 66PL is as high as it can go.
    Lance.
  • With the reverse spot I'm surprised it's CAC'd at 66.


  • << <i>yes I think it could upgrade, I would have a professional try and remove the black spot on the reverse. >>

    It's going to NCS and if they can get it off without messing with the coin I will have them do it.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't look PL in the photos, but looks like a solid 66. Could it be a 67? Not in my opinion.
    When in doubt, don't.


  • << <i>Doesn't look PL in the photos, but looks like a solid 66. Could it be a 67? Not in my opinion. >>

    It's a diffused shot, not a straight on shot.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it needs help to stay where it is already. As mentioned that spot looks a lot like a carbon spot and the hit on the eagle breast is very noticeable.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, great strike for the New Orleans Mint. Spot on reverse will keep it from a 67. Crack this coin out in today's environment and resubmit and the odds will be you will regret it.
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are plenty, and I mean plenty, of MS67 graded NGC and PCGS Morgans out there that have stray spots and noticable hits on the eagle's breast and elsewhere. And most of those are still legitimate 67s.

    From the pics here, I'd say 67 is a real possibility.

    But please don't crack the old fatty!


  • << <i>There are plenty, and I mean plenty, of MS67 graded NGC and PCGS Morgans out there that have stray spots and noticable hits on the eagle's breast and elsewhere. And most of those are still legitimate 67s.

    From the pics here, I'd say 67 is a real possibility.

    But please don't crack the old fatty! >>

    That's what I was thinking, from the posts I'm seeing what do 66s have to look like, 69's? I'm leaving it in the fatty holder unless NCS can remove the spot.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Except for the hit on the eagles chest, this coin looks like a 68!
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!


  • << <i>Except for the hit on the eagles chest, this coin looks like a 68! >>



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    << <i>What difference does the old fatty holder make? If the coin is a 67 get it in a new holder. >>



    Holders don't really mean anything to me, I didn't buy the holder in the first place ya know?
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What difference does the old fatty holder make?




    I greatly appreciate coins in my collection that are super PQ and even undergraded in their current slabs. That's especially true for fatty NGC and OGH PCGS slabs that have the added benefit of an extra 15+ years of peace....locked away from those that might molest them.

    Now if it's just a coin that you want to flip and sell for a profit, then by all means crack it and see f you can upgrade.




  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    exceptionally clean fields with what looks like a pin scratch on the cheek and a gash on the reverse eagle.
    The toning spot doesnt bother me to much in these photos.
    I would go 66 and maybe 66+.

    67? eh.
    may the fonz be with you...always...


  • << <i>exceptionally clean fields with what looks like a pin scratch on the cheek and a gash on the reverse eagle.
    The toning spot doesnt bother me to much in these photos.
    I would go 66 and maybe 66+.

    67? eh. >>

    Scrach on the cheek is on the holder. The cheek is virtually flawless.
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Nice coin. Why not enjoy it and stop obsessing about arbitrary numbers?
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    << <i>There are plenty, and I mean plenty, of MS67 graded NGC and PCGS Morgans out there that have stray spots and noticable hits on the eagle's breast and elsewhere. And most of those are still legitimate 67s.

    From the pics here, I'd say 67 is a real possibility.

    But please don't crack the old fatty! >>

    That's what I was thinking, from the posts I'm seeing what do 66s have to look like, 69's? I'm leaving it in the fatty holder unless NCS can remove the spot. >>



    I am still curious about the spot, is it just some toning, if so I can't believe that it should be removed as a way to correct the look of the coin. we must remember we are seeing a photo of a massive blow up shot. A little natural toning attests to the coin's originiality espeically where the spot is located ie in a main focal point. Leave the coin alone and in the old uber coool ngc no line fatty, you have the perfect storm coin, one that I believe is original, naturally toned and undergraded and housed in a classic slab who can ask for more, you are very fortunate to own it....and it is caced, many caced coins have been potential upgrades. >>

    I purchased the coin many moons ago, didn't pay much for it and I knew it was a special coin. It's the only white coin I own for good reason.

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