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So I watched a recent episode of "Storage Wars" that involved coin collection.............

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
............... and thought I would give a summary of the show.

Have you ever watched this show? It is relatively new and is on a cable channel.

The show is centered around Southern California storage unit auctions. The main characters are two guys who work together bidding at storage unit auctions. Other characters are the auctioneer and two or three other guys who are competing bidders. [There is another similar So. Cal. based show that has a slightly different format with four our five separate groups of bidders, all of whom share top billing on the show].

So the episode I watched that had a coin collection involved the two guys who are the main characters winning an auction. They pay the winning bid and a little bit later are shown searching the contents of the storage unit looking for good stuff. They find a big plastic storage container that is heavy. It is a solid color and has a lid on in so you have to open it to see what is inside. The container looks to be about 2.5 to 3 feet wide, 1.5 to 2 feet deep and 2 to 2.5 feet high. It was filled almost to the top.

They open the container and it is filled with boxes of mint products in OGP, plus albums etc. They also find a metal coffer can filled with 90% silver quarters. They think that they have found a very valuable coin collection. The OGP shows mint sets, proof sets and modern commemorative sets. The packaging shows the contents range from the 1960's [i.e. mints sets] forward. Lots of silver commeoratives.

One guy counts out the # of quarters in the coffer can. He spills the quarters onto a flat surface. I saw silver Washington quarters and SLQ's. They all looked circulated to one degree or another. The total # of quarters was just over 430. About $107-$100 in face value.

The two guys said that the value of each quarter was [I recall] $3.00 or $3.25. I do not know when the episode was taped and thus do not know if the stated value aww at melt at the time or below melt.

The two guys are then shown taking the container with the coin collection, including the 90% quarters to a local coin shop. The guy at the shop was all friendly with the two guys and the camera crew. The guy at the shop opened the container, pulled out a few items to look at them and stated that the "collection" was worth "$4,100.00".

The two guys had big grins on their faces when they heard $4,100.00. They sold the collection to the shop for $4,100.00.

I wonder if they had [or now have] any clue that the $4,100.00 paid to them by the shop owner was probably not more than half of the wholesale value of the collection. If so, I bet they regret selling the collection for $4,100.00.

I suspect that the shop owner actually spent some time off camera to take a close look at the collection before he came up with his $4,100.00 buy price.

Did any of you see the show? If so, your thoughts please.

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  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been watching that show simply to find coins on the show, but I must have missed that one.
  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
    I saw that episode and could have swore that at the end of the show, the big guy said he was going to keep them
    for his kids because "silver always goes up."
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't see that particular show, but I have seen these guys on other episodes. One would think that derelict storage containers typically contain a lot of valuable collectibles and useful merchandise worth far more than the few hundred bucks it seems it takes to win the average one at auction. Why isn't everyone bidding on them if more than half the time they contain coin collections, antique weapons, quality artwork, and possibly even a Blake & Company Territorial gold bar?

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  • << <i>Didn't see that particular show, but I have seen these guys on other episodes. One would think that derelict storage containers typically contain a lot of valuable collectibles and useful merchandise worth far more than the few hundred bucks it seems it takes to win the average one at auction. Why isn't everyone bidding on them if more than half the time they contain coin collections, antique weapons, quality artwork, and possibly even a Blake & Company Territorial gold bar?

    roadrunner >>



    They point out that the show is heavily edited and they search many units before coming up with anything worth televising.In the episode where the dude reached in to a suitcase and in one swoop brought out 4 or 5 silver dollars in the palm of his hand , i strongly felt those were planted.
  • kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Didn't see that particular show, but I have seen these guys on other episodes. One would think that derelict storage containers typically contain a lot of valuable collectibles and useful merchandise worth far more than the few hundred bucks it seems it takes to win the average one at auction. Why isn't everyone bidding on them if more than half the time they contain coin collections, antique weapons, quality artwork, and possibly even a Blake & Company Territorial gold bar?

    roadrunner >>



    Because the other half contain old holiday decorations, beat up kids toys and trash....I think I saw a posting somewhere online where a guy who has been doing these types of storage unit purchases for years said that only about 1/20 actually pay out good. The other 19/20 usually cost him money to get rid of the stuff. They also seem to find alot of handguns, to me it one seem that would be a big hassle - I wouldn't think you could just walk out of there with a pistol and re-sell it without any paperwork on who owned it previously.
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I saw that episode and could have swore that at the end of the show, the big guy said he was going to keep them
    for his kids because "silver always goes up." >>



    Your right, he didn't sell them.
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  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    If you find a weapon in those storage boxes, I believe you must forfeit it over to the police so it would be a hassle and I assume you lose it too for good. Hey this show is on TV, so I am sure it is heavily edited, scripted, and planted. I like it better than Pawn Stars now though. PW went over the top with their obviously scripted acting lines and product placement. I get turned off when places like Subway pay to be featured etc. Gimme a break, it sure doesn't look like those guys eat 6 gram of fat turkey subs......
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I wouldn't think you could just walk out of there with a pistol and re-sell it without any paperwork on who owned it previously. "
    Kevin, depending on the state, that is not a problem. It would be an issue in NYS and a couple of others. Paperwork is not needed to sell guns in most states, when privately dealing. Cheers, RickO
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"I wouldn't think you could just walk out of there with a pistol and re-sell it without any paperwork on who owned it previously. "
    Kevin, depending on the state, that is not a problem. It would be an issue in NYS and a couple of others. Paperwork is not needed to sell guns in most states, when privately dealing. Cheers, RickO >>



    If you find a gun in a storage facility, shouldn't it be ran by the police? Seems no different than finding a gun alongside the road. It should be checked out.
  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    In the other show like this called Auction Hunters, they find and sell guns all the time.

    Ricko is correct that private gun sales in many states do not require paperwork.

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was late at night when I watched the show. I was tired. I must have missed the part where the guy said he was going to keep the collection for his kids.

    It would have been fun to search through the storage container and the coffee can of 90% quarters to see what was there. I saw some heavily circulated SLQ's and could not help but wonder whether any dateless 1916 quarters were in the pile of coins.

    I had my own experience with a forced storgage auction of personal property, including a coin collection back in 2006. I should look up that thread to jog my memory on the details. It was a large collection with a wide range of coins, US, Canadian and Darkside dating from the early 1800's.

  • fiveNdimefiveNdime Posts: 1,088 ✭✭


    << <i>In the episode where the dude reached in to a suitcase and in one swoop brought out 4 or 5 silver dollars in the palm of his hand , i strongly felt those were planted. >>


    was this where they bid on a box of xmas decor, which they won for $1, and found some paper money after, as well? didnt see the end...
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder if they had [or now have] any clue that the $4,100.00 paid to them by the shop owner was probably not more than half of the wholesale value of the collection. If so, I bet they regret selling the collection for $4,100.00. >>


    That was probably a much higher price than would be offered if there wasn't a camera pointed at the dealer.


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  • The show you are talking about with the two guys as main characters is called auction kings but the episode with the coins is on the storage wars show. Both shows are the same kind of format.
    I happen to like both these showsimage
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  • << <i>

    << <i>In the episode where the dude reached in to a suitcase and in one swoop brought out 4 or 5 silver dollars in the palm of his hand , i strongly felt those were planted. >>


    was this where they bid on a box of xmas decor, which they won for $1, and found some paper money after, as well? didnt see the end... >>



    I think so , they were on a real bummer of a unit and the guy reached into a side pocket of a suitcase and brought out a handfull of silver dollars.He knew exactly which pocket to reach into and didnt check the rest of the case , that seemed odd.
  • I haven't seen the show. I do know a friend that had a storage unit for many years. The "treasures" inside included used nails, old rusty tools, a beat up old guitar, old used clothes, old stuffed animals (non-collectible). Anyone paying several hundred dollars for that unit would almost certainly take a loss and be lucky to find more than a few items that even garage sale buyers would want at $1 a piece. Add in the value of the time spent sorting and selling, and it would be a sink hole of both time and money. Say a person could buy a unit for $500 and sell the contents for $1000 for 40 hours of heavy work. That might be okay, for someone without a job at $12.50 an hour. Now change the math and say a person can buy for $500 and sell for $650 for 40 hours work, and it is not worth it.

    Some coin collectors may think that others will have valuable stuff, but way less than 1% of the population has any signficant cache of valuable coins.

    The antique road show and other shows make a lot of folks think there are treasures out there. Yes, there are a few. However, it is more of a 1-in-1000 long shot for finding even a single item of significant collector value, not every other lot like it is on TV.
  • There was another tv show back in the 90's that had a guy cleaning out a storage unit and found a genie wrapped up in a rug image
  • In 07 a neighbor passed away and it fell to me via his relatives on the other coast to clear the house and prep for sale.I found a WWll uniform with 3 bronze stars and too many other decorations to mention.Nobody knew the old guy was a hero.
    The magical part was the unit patch.He was posted as a guard at nurnberg for the nazi trials and all the devices were on the collar and sleeve.Its in the museum in NY now and valued at over 15k.

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