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Ok to ask dealer to crackout coins you didn't purchase from them?

Is it alright practice to ask a dealer to crackout a coin that you didn't purchase from them? I do quite a bit of business with the dealer in question, but I've purchased a few graded coins for my 7070, but don't have the faith in my abilities to crack them out without damaging them. Is it ok to ask my local dealer to do it? Or do you have a recommended way to do it?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure, why not?
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  • If the dealer scratches your coin while cracking it out (admittedly unlikely, but not impossible), would you expect him to be financially liable for the damage?


  • << <i>If the dealer scratches your coin while cracking it out (admittedly unlikely, but not impossible), would you expect him to be financially liable for the damage? >>



    No. I'd just prefer the hands of someone who's done it a lot, to actually remove the coin, as to myself, who's never done it.
  • i just cut the housing at the top with a dremmel and the pry the front and back apart. Works great and haven't damaged a coin ever.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS and NGC may require different tools. They do for me. PCGS is easier. Ask your dealer to show you. It's not that tough. Wear something over your eyes, especially for NGC.
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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭✭
    Easiest way is to hold it upright against a concrete floor and hit the top with a hammer with medium force. THe slap will seperate.
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    You need to have a little more faith in yourself, man up and just do it. I have more fun with a hammer but a vice works best.
    Mark
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  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭
    I just did my first crackouts last week - 3 PCGS and 1 ANACS - I think for a slab collector it's good experience - just have to go carefully.


  • << <i>Easiest way is to hold it upright against a concrete floor and hit the top with a hammer with medium force. THe slap will seperate. >>



    Bit the bullet and just cracked out a $10 coin. I tried it upright as you said, but all that happened was the top of the slab chipped away, and I wasn't able to split it apart. Put it on it's side, one good thwack and it separated. No damage to the coin. Good deal... thanks for the tip!


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    << <i>Easiest way is to hold it upright against a concrete floor and hit the top with a hammer with medium force. THe slap will seperate. >>



    Bit the bullet and just cracked out a $10 coin. I tried it upright as you said, but all that happened was the top of the slab chipped away, and I wasn't able to split it apart. Put it on it's side, one good thwack and it separated. No damage to the coin. Good deal... thanks for the tip! >>



    Please practice on a bunch more cheap coins before you attempt anything valuable.


  • << <i>Please practice on a bunch more cheap coins before you attempt anything valuable. >>



    Oh I plan to. Will try a few different techniques and see what's the easiest/safest.
  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭
    If you use the "Hammer & Concrete" technique, a good approach is to start off with a fairly light tap and rotate the slab 90 degrees between hits so you do each side, gradually increasing the force used until you hear the slab seam pop.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you use the "Hammer & Concrete" technique, a good approach is to start off with a fairly light tap and rotate the slab 90 degrees between hits so you do each side, gradually increasing the force used until you hear the slab seam pop. >>


    That's what I do. I first wrap the slab in an old rag or cloth diaper.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use these.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,605 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>If you use the "Hammer & Concrete" technique, a good approach is to start off with a fairly light tap and rotate the slab 90 degrees between hits so you do each side, gradually increasing the force used until you hear the slab seam pop. >>


    That's what I do. I first wrap the slab in an old rag or cloth diaper. >>



    I use a zip lock bag!
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,205 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Easiest way is to hold it upright against a concrete floor and hit the top with a hammer with medium force. THe slap will seperate. >>



    Bit the bullet and just cracked out a $10 coin. I tried it upright as you said, but all that happened was the top of the slab chipped away, and I wasn't able to split it apart. Put it on it's side, one good thwack and it separated. No damage to the coin. Good deal... thanks for the tip! >>



    Yup! One man's upright is another man's side.
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  • tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    First, wear protective glasses
    Second, put the top half of the PCGS slab in a common vice and tighten it to the point where it first holds "firm."
    Third, put a very heavy towel over the slab
    Fourth, put a little weight from your hand, not poking but gentle pushing, on the towel covering the slab that is securely held in place by the vice.
    Fifth, take the coin out of the broken slab in good shape.

    ...works for me BUT you assume all liability, in all forms, if you follow my directions.
  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    I use bolt cutters.
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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I use these.

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    I use tile nippers too, they work great!! I had to do the hammer method last week because we moved recently and I couldn't find them. Still works well but not as good as the nippers IMHO.


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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer the Dremel tool.... takes a tad longer, but predictable and does not endanger the coin. Cheers, RickO
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I use these.

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    I use tile nippers too, they work great!! I had to do the hammer method last week because we moved recently and I couldn't find them. Still works well but not as good as the nippers IMHO. >>



    My tool exactly. For NGC I put the slab on concrete sideways and use a hammer to hit the end away from the coin first. A vise always works, they're just so tough to carry around in your luggage when you go to a show.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm waiting for "I crush them with my bare hands wimp"
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  • Its easy.Use a vise with care.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you were a regular customer and once in a while requested that we defenestrate a coin bought elsewhere, we would not be offended.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • i use a band saw - cut all four edges off just inside the seam and lift the top off after cutting.
    Cecil
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no cause if he scratches it he owns it. i do it then im responsible for it


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    << <i>

    << <i>I use these.

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    I use tile nippers too, they work great!! I had to do the hammer method last week because we moved recently and I couldn't find them. Still works well but not as good as the nippers IMHO. >>



    My tool exactly. For NGC I put the slab on concrete sideways and use a hammer to hit the end away from the coin first. A vise always works, they're just so tough to carry around in your luggage when you go to a show. >>




    Yep... my preferred tool, as well... carry one to every show ( the big tile nippers can also be used as a hammer on those pesky NGC holders)... and it has been used at shows on more than one occasion image a coin geek's Crack Party image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image

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