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GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Love the fact that there is a Chinese counterfeit expert onboard!!!!

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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭
    I like the fact that his name is "dragon".
    Sell me a coin or three!
  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    Ron Howard, Miles Standish, Charlie Browne, Keith Moon? Are you sure these are really the graders names? image
  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    golfer:

    They are not real names, they are "altered surnames"
  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    They are their real names .
    ed rodrigues
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They are their real names . >>



    No, "Miles" first name is really "Kilometers," but he changed it when he snuck into the country from Newfoundland!!!

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    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They are their real names . >>



    Absolutely image
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    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>They are their real names . >>



    No, "Miles" first name is really "Kilometers," but he changed it when he snuck into the country from Newfoundland!!!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    An impressive staff. Cheers, RickO
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Gordon Wrubel...graded in excess of 5 million coins...
    Ken Park...graded over a million coins...
    Mike Sergent...verified over 5 million coins...
    DAMN!!!
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keith Moon in his younger day!!!! image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Keith Moon in his younger day!!!! image

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    I thought it was "The Monkees' 40th Anniversary Tour"

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,960 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Keith Moon in his younger day!!!! image

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    I thought it was "The Monkees' 40th Anniversary Tour"

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    lmao, maybe it is image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Keith Moon in his younger day!!!! image

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    I thought it was "The Monkees' 40th Anniversary Tour"

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  • llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    So a grader grades an average of 900 coins daily? WOW!
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Believe it or not those are graders' real names. Miles Standish's real first name is Michael but he's universally known as "Miles". I'll admit Mr. Liu has the best first name ever.
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would image if Ron Howard sported the nickname OPie!

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Miles Standish, PCGS Senior Grader and Vice-President and perhaps the most prolific grader in the world. Miles started grading at PCGS in 1987 and has graded more coins than any other professional grader in the world."

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  • SeaEagleCoinsSeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭


    << <i>Gordon Wrubel...graded in excess of 5 million coins...
    Ken Park...graded over a million coins...
    Mike Sergent...verified over 5 million coins...
    DAMN!!! >>




    Now... another 5 million and they might actually be able to grade accurately on a consisitent basis... image

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    sorry... sometimes the internal editor in my head just takes a holiday... and then anything can come out... image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • scottgardenerscottgardener Posts: 1,205 ✭
    I hear Mr. Browne is a good man, though prior to his career in numismatics he was in athletics until suffering recurrent back injuries playing football.

    These may indeed be their real names. I've seen strange coincidences before, and sometimes coincidental names will line up to create an ensemble like this. Odd that it should be world-class numismatists in this case, but coincidences are supposed to be weird, otherwise they wouldn't be noticed.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting that they only call one of their graders a "world coin expert".
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • abitofthisabitofthatabitofthisabitofthat Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Gordon Wrubel...graded in excess of 5 million coins...
    Ken Park...graded over a million coins...
    Mike Sergent...verified over 5 million coins...
    DAMN!!! >>



    Now... another 5 million and they might actually be able to grade accurately on a consisitent basis... image

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    sorry... sometimes the internal editor in my head just takes a holiday... and then anything can come out... image >>



    Larry, if you think that you can do better, why don't you start working at PCGS. Of course, you will have to change your name to Larry King. Or maybe Larry Hagman. Or how about Larry Flint?image

    Just kidding Larry, of course. I just could not resist playing the name game. How about everyone pick one of their favorite coin dealers and change their names to make them PCGS-worthy?

    merse

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Miles Standish scenario.

    Started at PCGS in 1987.
    If he graded minimum 5,000,000 coins for those 23 years, then that's 217,319 coins a year.
    If he worked 50 weeks at 5 days a week.....that's 250 work days.
    That's 869 coins a day!!!!That then becomes 108 coins an hour.
    Bottom line 1.8 coins graded per minute!!!!! OK, what am I missing here?? image


  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Gordon Wrubel...graded in excess of 5 million coins...
    Ken Park...graded over a million coins...
    Mike Sergent...verified over 5 million coins...
    DAMN!!! >>




    Now... another 5 million and they might actually be able to grade accurately on a consisitent basis... >>



    I know all three of them and their ability to grade accurately on a consistent basis is far better than yours. image
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Miles Standish, PCGS Senior Grader and Vice-President and perhaps the most prolific grader in the world...has graded more coins than any other professional grader in the world."

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    Yeah, but he's had a lot more time to do it. The dude's been around since like 1584.
    Lance.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,559 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Miles Standish scenario.

    Started at PCGS in 1987.
    If he graded minimum 5,000,000 coins for those 23 years, then that's 217,319 coins a year.
    If he worked 50 weeks at 5 days a week.....that's 250 work days.
    That's 869 coins a day!!!!That then becomes 108 coins an hour.
    Bottom line 1.8 coins graded per minute!!!!! OK, what am I missing here?? image >>



    Back when I was grading at ANACS, I at least got to go to the bathroom once in a while......

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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    What about David Hall ? He grades coins too. He also knows a few things about PCGS as well as he markets coins.

    Andy - You know that they call the REAL WORLD COIN EXPERTS when they need to know the nuances of a particular coin.

    Which PCGS coin expert knows the real values of U.S. coins ? I hope they don't ask Laura Sperber image
    But she seems to know the value of a 1943 D copper cent and I don't know Jack Schit.

    Stewart Blay
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would image if Ron Howard sported the nickname OPie! >>



    Used to be he did !
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  • dlmtortsdlmtorts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭
    I cannot tell whether those who have graded over 5 million coins did so while at PCGS. But Mike Faraone has been at PCGS since (sometime in) 2004. He has graded almost 1,000,000 coins for PCGS. So let's do the math. Let's assume he was with PCGS the entire year of 2004 and has graded 1,000,000 coins through the end of 2010. That is seven calendar years of coin grading. If he worked 40 hours per week for fifty weeks a year, that is 2000 hours per year for 7 years for 14,000 hours. That equates to 50,040,000 seconds. If he graded 1,000,000 coins in 50,040,000 seconds then he averages grading a coin every 50.4 seconds. I guess if you are an expert at it, 50.4 seconds might be sufficient. I'll admit I make my initial determination of a coin's grade more quickly than that. I guess in the end, what we are paying for when having a coin graded is the expertise, not the time.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bottom line 1.8 coins graded per minute!!!!! OK, what am I missing here??

    You're missing a few things. First, when you get something like a run of one hundred untoned 81-S dollars, you get in a groove and can grade the coins very quickly and more accurately. That brings the per minute average way up. (It also increases the grader's accuracy percentages.) Second, bizarre as it may sound, Miles likes his work, and liking one's work boosts productivity. And third, he's very talented.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    ..and no restroom breaks, either!
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My daughter can now grade 600-900 coins an hour and go for 3 solid hours without a break. Generally, about 2,000 coins non-stop with excellent accuracy (after about 3,500 or so coins in a day she needs to stop as many more mistakes start getting made I have found). Of course, the coins are then submitted and she is certainly far from "perfect" in the grading, but who is. Miles, on the other hand, obviously has much, much better accuracy and I suspect can grade 5,000 coins a day if not more (so much for 869)! I have no doubt if you ask Miles he will tell you that the 5,000,000 figure is "light".

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My daughter can now grade 600-900 coins an hour and go for 3 solid hours without a break. Generally, about 2,000 coins non-stop with excellent accuracy (after about 3,500 or so coins in a day she needs to stop as many more mistakes start getting made I have found). Of course, the coins are then submitted and she is certainly far from "perfect" in the grading, but who is. Miles, on the other hand, obviously has much, much better accuracy and I suspect can grade 5,000 coins a day if not more (so much for 869)! I have no doubt if you ask Miles he will tell you that the 5,000,000 figure is "light".

    Wondercoin >>



    I'm in awe of this girl/woman!!!!image

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