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1896 Morgan....What is that under the "E"

ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
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At fridays poker game, a friend gave me a morgan to toss on my silver pile.

What is going on with the raised metal under the E ?

Any thoughts ?

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Herb
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  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    possibly a small die chip, may be a VAM, but I'm not an expert with those
  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possibly a small lamination.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a die gouge.... Cheers, RickO
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Plancet defect, probably lamination.
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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Plancet defect, probably lamination. >>



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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks to me like PMD.

    Something impacted the coin, shaving off the bottom of the E and driving it into the field below.

    That's my guess. image
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Plancet defect, probably lamination. >>



    image >>



    Actually no. It is a delamination. image

    I bet if you scrape it with your fingernail it will flake off.
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Plancet defect, probably lamination. >>



    image >>



    Actually no. It is a delamination. image

    I bet if you scrape it with your fingernail it will flake off. >>



    I tried that ever so gently.


    <<Looks to me like PMD.

    Something impacted the coin, shaving off the bottom of the E and driving it into the field below.

    That's my guess. >>


    that came to mind too.


    I like the lamination idea.

    thanks all for the replies.



    Herb


    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • Raybob15239Raybob15239 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Plancet defect, probably lamination. >>

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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lamination or PMD...
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    It's a hit from the edge of another dollar. One day when they were moving bags at the GSA one worker yelled to the other "Hey Joe, catch this bag." oooops thought you were ready.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • kurtdogkurtdog Posts: 1,456
    Ibzman350, you have a little lam, little lam, little lam, Ibzman350, you have a little lam, and its fleece is white as snow, BTW. IMHO...
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    aka: "E-poop" ?
  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    I like Lamination errors, I may have to move the morgan from my silver pile to my lamination pile.image

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    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you look at the flattened area on
    the right side of the base of "E", you'll
    see where the 'extra' metal below it
    came from.

    It's not a planchet flaw in my view, from
    what I can see. It looks like the E is
    simply damaged, and the metal got
    smashed down and to the left. There
    are other signs of this also, along the
    base of the E.

    PMD in my view.

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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭


    << <i>If you look at the flattened area on
    the right side of the base of "E", you'll
    see where the 'extra' metal below it
    came from.

    It's not a planchet flaw in my view, from
    what I can see. It looks like the E is
    simply damaged, and the metal got
    smashed down and to the left. There
    are other signs of this also, along the
    base of the E.

    PMD in my view. >>




    Thank you sir for the reply!
    Those were my thoughts also when I first saw it.

    I tried gently to move the metal, so I'll have to try harder. If it's part of the E, I should be
    able to move it.

    Toothpick time !

    Then back to the silver pileimage



    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
    imageimageimage
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Plancet defect, probably lamination. >>



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    retained lamination
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you look at the flattened area on
    the right side of the base of "E", you'll
    see where the 'extra' metal below it
    came from.

    It's not a planchet flaw in my view, from
    what I can see. It looks like the E is
    simply damaged, and the metal got
    smashed down and to the left. There
    are other signs of this also, along the
    base of the E.

    PMD in my view. >>




    Thank you sir for the reply!
    Those were my thoughts also when I first saw it.

    I tried gently to move the metal, so I'll have to try harder. If it's part of the E, I should be
    able to move it.

    Toothpick time !

    Then back to the silver pileimage



    Herb >>



    Why would you move the metal? What's your hurry? It's not a good picture and I think Fred's wrong. So I'd like a lesson with better magnification. Get it to him before FUN. He'll pay you $30 for it and he and I and all of us can have a lot more than $10 of fun with it at FUN.
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    <<Why would you move the metal? What's your hurry? It's not a good picture and I think Fred's wrong. So I'd like a lesson with better magnification. Get it to him before FUN. He'll pay you $30 for it and he and I and all of us can have a lot more than $10 of fun with it at FUN. >>


    How about I send it to Fred, you guys have fun at FUN and then send it back to me.



    Herb

    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
    imageimageimage
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Works great .. Thanks.image

    Now all we need is for Fred to agree.image
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