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How to remove pencil from a silver coin? Also, help with WB number...

GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
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Just received this piece from South Africa. I thought it was a great deal when I won the auction----I figured the coin as a 63ish, held back by what looked like a pair of scratches in the left obverse field.

It arrived today. It is a screaming Gem. The only issue is what had looked like scratches on the left obverse field are actually two pencil lines. With the pencil it will not grade to its full potential. How can you remove these without disturbing the toning?

Also, I noticed this curved die scratch running through the drapery. I don't have a WB book... is this something unusual?
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Not sure if acetone will do anything to the lines but it might be worth a try as it wont affect the toning.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭
    looks really sharp. Have no idea about the pencil marks. What removes graphite?

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  • chumleychumley Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭✭
    an eraser?
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe you can loosen it with a Mineral Oil soak and a cotton swap.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭


    << <i>an eraser? >>




    I think he wants to try to remove it without leaving a noticable erase mark.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hot peroxide. Cheers, RickO
  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hot peroxide. Cheers, RickO >>



    Really? That works?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hot peroxide. Cheers, RickO >>



    Really? That works? >>



    Sounds easy if it does... Please report back! image


    The Mineral Oil soak sounds viable also.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,342 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>an eraser? >>



    I think he wants to try to remove it without leaving a noticable erase mark. >>



    I think Chumley was kidding---at least I'm hoping he's kidding.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Hot peroxide. Cheers, RickO >>



    Really? That works? >>



    Sounds easy if it does... Please report back! image


    The Mineral Oil soak sounds viable also. >>




    as does acetone and a swab, mate.
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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    That die line dashes up into the shield as well. Of course, if the pencil marks are very old, removal will likely leave a toning variance. Hopefully, the pencil wasn't used to conceal something....
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how about water?
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I think Mineral Oil soak and a cotton swap are your best bet. Try it on a Kennedy 1st, good eye though and too bad it isn't 1 year newer as you could take a year or two off and travel.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GoldenEyeNumismatics , I just looked at the EBay listing! image

    The South Africa part would have been too scary for me! image
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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hot peroxide may etch the surface. I do know fantastik will cut graphite but I don't know if it will affect the surface. Maybe do a few tests on some inexpensive silver before applying anything to your coin.
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    How to remove pencil from a silver coin?

    The other way is to gently lift the pencil upward, off of the coin, thereby removing it from the silver coin.
  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what ever you try.

    try it on a piece of junk silver first.....

  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Silly putty?
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread sound almost as good as one with cures for hiccups. image
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How to remove pencil from a silver coin?

    The other way is to gently lift the pencil upward, off of the coin, thereby removing it from the silver coin. >>



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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,333 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>what ever you try.

    try it on a piece of junk silver first..... >>



    Good idea. Take a baggy BU 1964 half, scribble on it and then experiment.

    Or do nothing. The coin is what it is.

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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How to remove pencil from a silver coin?

    The other way is to gently lift the pencil upward, off of the coin, thereby removing it from the silver coin. >>



    You make many silly puns but that one had me rolling image
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>GoldenEyeNumismatics , I just looked at the EBay listing! image

    The South Africa part would have been too scary for me! image >>



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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    Probably important to remember that depending on when the pencil was applied, it might not be graphite.

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