Mercury Dime 1934-D Large & Small Mint Marks

keyman64

With other coins in the series you have the 1928 Large S and Small S, 1941 Large S and Small S, there are the Trumpet Tail S mint marks, the 1945 Micro S and Normal S etc etc...

The Redbook mentions the 1934-D with large and small mint marks. They are not part of the complete variety set. Who can provide more info and photos for the 1934-D? The Cherrypickers' Guide does not mention it. Any info is appreciated. Oh, Which One is This?

Thanks,

Greg

DIMEMAN

This is covered in the Mercury Dime book by David Lange.

This one appears to be the large D.

There are RPM's also.

fcloud

Greg,

That one is the large D. Do a search on ebay for 1934-D Mercury, look through about 6 to 10 coins and you will see which is which.

Tony

keyman64

Which one seems to be more rare? Any estimates?

I am going to order the book now...not sure why I haven't done this yet. Ugh!

Interesting that the Redbook recognizes it but CPG does not...normally it is the reverse.

keyman64

In my "2x2 scrap pile of mercs" I have 2 different 1934-D mint marks. Each coin is F-12...one might be F-15 depending upon who is grading and what they ate recently. One is an RPM lower right and the other has a little blob at the top left of the mint mark around 11 o'clock.

JRocco

I never knew the 34D came with 2 different sized MM
But I still like my 34D with nicer lower lines in an old NGC 66 fat slab better than the attached example

DIMEMAN

Jrocco - your 34-D looks like one of the RPM's. I think there are 3. I will have to look at mine and see.

Greg - The small D is encountered less often, but is not rare.

DIMEMAN

Jrocco - Your RPM looks like # 3, which shows at the top of the D and is the same size Large D over Large D. There is a Large D over Small D, which is #1 and #2 is also a large D coming out the back or west of the D.

JRocco

<< <i>Jrocco - Your RPM looks like # 3, which shows at the top of the D and is the same size Large D over Large D. There is a Large D over Small D, which is #1 and #2 is also a large D coming out the back or west of the D. >>


Thanks for the info Dimeman. I did not have this marked in my notes as an RPM, but will give it
a better look next time I pull it out.
I am a variety weenie so you think I would have taken notice ...

keyman64

From what I can tell, The Wizard Coin Supply has the book listed at the cheapest price but then charges more than $10 to ship it which in turn gets them to about the same price of everyone else ($38.95 +$4 to ship). I understand they have discount codes but you have to subscribe to their newsletter (which I just did) and now I have to wait until I get the magic potion discount code via the email newsletter. I'm waiting Mr. Wizard.....I'm waiting.

DIMEMAN

Rocco - It sure looks like it, but it could be shadows. You will be able to tell for sure in hand.

Nice coin by the way.

keyman64

It looks like I need to photograph my two 1934-D coins for their mint marks so I can share them in here. Maybe tomorrow...I'm sleepy.

pursuitofliberty

Greg,

According to Lange's original work on the series, he states;

"Small D dimes are scarcer than those having the large D, but not enough to command a premium."

I know he has produced a newwer guide, however I have not read it yet.

My recollection of this date is that it's about a 1/3 to 2/3rd's split, witht he large D's being more plentiful ... hopefully Tony or Jon or Ken can confirm or dispell that estimate.

Todd

DIMEMAN

I have the new (2005) second edition of the Complete Guide to Mercury Dimes by David Lange. In the book there is not a specific breakdown of the small D vs large D. Only that it is not enough to cause a premium.

He also states that the Large D over Small D is erronious(sp), but I for one disagree. I have one and the underlying D is definitely much smaller.

keyman64

<< <i>Greg,

According to Lange's original work on the series, he states;

"Small D dimes are scarcer than those having the large D, but not enough to command a premium."

I know he has produced a newwer guide, however I have not read it yet.

My recollection of this date is that it's about a 1/3 to 2/3rd's split, witht he large D's being more plentiful ... hopefully Tony or Jon or Ken can confirm or dispell that estimate.

Todd >>

Thanks Todd! As for premium, I am not concerned...it is just interesting that PCGS does not have it in the Complete Variety Set. I guess it is not listed in CPG because there is no premium...hence it would not be a Cherrypick. Since it is not listed in CPG, PCGS does not have it as a part of their variety set even though they exclude some of the CPG listings. Hmmmm.

keyman64

<< <i>I have the new (2005) second edition of the Complete Guide to Mercury Dimes by David Lange. In the book there is not a specific breakdown of the small D vs large D. Only that it is not enough to cause a premium.

He also states that the Large D over Small D is erronious(sp), but I for one disagree. I have one and the underlying D is definitely much smaller. >>



Jon, you need a camera and setup to photograph your toys! Thanks again for the info.

DIMEMAN

The Mercury Dime Complete Variety Set on the Registry..................Is NOT Complete!!!!

keyman64

<< <i>The Mercury Dime Complete Variety Set on the Registry..................Is NOT Complete!!!! >>

I'm starting to feel your frustration. Have you figured out how many dimes would make it complete?

fcloud

<< <i>

<< <i>The Mercury Dime Complete Variety Set on the Registry..................Is NOT Complete!!!! >>

I'm starting to feel your frustration. Have you figured out how many dimes would make it complete? >>



I could probably never be complete. Each die for Denver and San Fransisco had the mint mark added to the die by hand. It may even be possible to find differences in the Philly dies. To be fully complete you would need to list each die. I think PCGS has to draw the line someplace and for whatever reason they based it on a popular book.

I know you and Jon don't agree with me on this, but they should continue to use the CPG, but they should use every coin in the CPG and not cherry pick. Just draw the line in the sand and say if its in the book it belongs in the set (yes even the minor stuff).

They recognize all the Minnesota quarters no matter how minor, yet they think some other dies are too minor. (Let me know if you ever figure that one out.)

DIMEMAN

They (PCGS) at least need to use the Book on each series and the RPM book by Wexler to get the ones Lange missed. I'm not saying use every die combination. Just all of the DDO's DDR's RPM's and MPD's known.

pursuitofliberty

Greg,

You're welcome. I have only two currently ... a rattler with the large D that also has the best strike I have ever owned on a 34-D, and my raw album set one is a either a small D or the minor D/D (north/south - like JRocco's), but now I can't remember which one I kept, and I don't have a picture. Even my notes aren't clear (arrgghh!). I know it was the nicer for the grade ... probably worthy of a 64, maybe a touch better ... not quite FB.

keyman64

Believe it or not, I do believe in drawing the line in the sand somewhere. Defining where that "somewhere" is might be tough for me though. The complete CPG would be a good start. I have the 1937 FS-101 in MS67FB in an ANACS holder....need to photograph it one day.



Tony only has to come up with 35 more posts and he will be at 10,000!!! Maybe he will do a give away for the occasion and he will want to give me his entire collection of dimes? HA HA HA HA ...ok, maybe not.

Fairlaneman

Guys you are getting into mind boggling territory with all of the varieties that show up through the Merc series. Many many years ago I purchased Treasure Hunting Mercury Dimes by Wexler and Flynn started flipping through it and determined that there were so many different minor double dies that did not warrant the time or strain on the eyes. Heck there are even 3 different 45P DD's that no one even mentions here. RPM's are the same way. Many are so minor and do not warrant the time or eye strain. I will admit that some of the RPM's are very cool though.

Good luck in your searchers though.

Ken

DIMEMAN

Come on Ken, get your glasses on............you can do it!