Can a CAC Bean be removed safely from a slab without leaving signs ?
Amigo
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I'm not trying to stir any pots. I just don't like seeing a distracting bean on some of my newer slabs. These are on some of my core collection, not the flipper material. It bugs me to have a beanie on 4 of my rattlers.
What will eat the glue but not damage the slab ?
Not looking for any political commentary on CAC, Thank you very much.
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In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
...WOW!! that's a switch. there are many collectors that would cherish a bean on their slabs.
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No, there will always be a trace of the Jolly Green Giant's fingerprints on the holder. And sometimes you might be able to see L'il Sprout's as well.
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<< <i>It bugs me to have a beanie on 4 of my rattlers. >>
Why?
Lance.
<< <i>Are the gold beans easier to remove than the green bean?
I hear they come off more slowly...
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<< <i>It bugs me to have a beanie on 4 of my rattlers. >>
Why? >>
some people pay more for a stickered coin....
<< <i>Why does the (physical) sticker even matter since the slab number is in the CAC database?
Is that true?...If I had a slab that used to have a sticker, but not now, can I send it to CAC to get it automatically restickered?
(provided it shows up on their database)
......I collect old stuff......
Peal off most of the label as you can and then spray on the WD-40 and wipe off. Just make sure you wipe off all of the WD-40.
To get little scratches out of the slabs I use BRASSO.
<< <i>I would hope that the sticker would be designed in a way to make transplanting it onto a different slab pretty much impossible. They look thin and metallic; I imagine one would look pretty crinkly if not torn to shreds in order to remove it. I'd hate to think it were easy to move, and that all it would take to tack on a few hundred dollars to my gold collection would be to cherry-pick some really nice Mercury dimes or MS63 Morgans. >>
Dunno. Seems like if you got a cheap coin CAC'ed you could just destroy the slab and get the sticker intact from the backside.....
<< <i>This thread defies logic. >>
I agree. I think Amigo has been hitting the sauce.
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<< <i>I'm not trying to stir any pots. I just don't like seeing a distracting bean on some of my newer slabs. These are on some of my core collection, not the flipper material. It bugs me to have a beanie on 4 of my rattlers.
What will eat the glue but not damage the slab ?
Not looking for any political commentary on CAC, Thank you very much. >>
Buy (and look at) the coin, not the holder (or the green bean).
<< <i>If done very carefully I bet you could get the sticker off intact with a single edge razor blade, get most of the glue and stick it on another coin. >>
I will take that bet. Give it a go ahd then send me the money - thanks.
Would be interested if it can be done.
I put on my own stickers before sending coins to the
photographer's, indicating what I want done to a particular
coin...ie: close up of the RPM, etc.
When I decided to move the sticker from the OBV to the REV,
my sticker pulled off the green color on the CAC - and - left
behind a gold tint sticker !!
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<< <i>If done very carefully I bet you could get the sticker off intact with a single edge razor blade, get most of the glue and stick it on another coin. >>
I'd bet it would damage the slab, so why not just skip the razor blade and go for a blow torch!
<< <i>When I decided to move the sticker from the OBV to the REV,
my sticker pulled off the green color on the CAC - and - left
behind a gold tint sticker !! >>
WhooHoo---instant upgrade.
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"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>If done very carefully I bet you could get the sticker off intact with a single edge razor blade, get most of the glue and stick it on another coin. >>
I'd bet it would damage the slab, so why not just skip the razor blade and go for a blow torch!
Won't work...the heat will tone the coin in the holder.
Try "goo be gone" mixed with H2SO4
I was considering buying a certain coin and asked the dealer if he submitted it to cac.
The dealer responded that he never does that because he knows of other dealers that peel stickers and and restick them on other slabs to increase the other coins value.
I ended up buying the coin and was very pleased with its green bean result.
When I mentioned this story to bill wexler- he said its absolutely impossible to do and the cac sticker would be destroyed upon trying to peel it.
Ive never tested to see if this is in fact true but I cant imagine that he would be wrong
I know CAC has a pop report but I dont know if there is a Cert verification .
(quite happy my 59C gold dollar became a POP 1)
<< <i>...I know CAC has a pop report but I dont know if there is a Cert verification .... >>
There is.
The converse is not true. You can easily remove a sticker from a slab without damaging the slab.
As an aside... at one time I had about ten slabs to crack. I decided to do a little experiment. I bought a brand new carbide up-spiral router bit and carefully cut away the backside of one slab, leaving only flakes of the backside intact upon the sonic weld. I then proceeded to take another slab and carefully cut away the front side. IIRC, this was much easier, since I only had to carve away the edges. Carefully removing the leftovers and polishing out the sonic welds, I was rewarded with two almost perfect halves of a PCGS holder. They fit together perfectly, and await...? Only took three hours out of my day.
Of course, I would not be so inclined to make nefarious use of my little contraband treasure
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<< <i>OK...I'll bite. What would possibly bother you so much that you'd want to remove the sticker and potentially decrease the value of the coin involved? >>
Sounds like the OP collects COINS, not stickers.
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<< <i>OK...I'll bite. What would possibly bother you so much that you'd want to remove the sticker and potentially decrease the value of the coin involved? >>
Sounds like the OP collects COINS, not stickers. >>
Or (seeing as how the stickers are on the holders, not the coins) perhaps he collects HOLDERS, not coins.
<< <i>OK...I'll bite. What would possibly bother you so much that you'd want to remove the sticker and potentially decrease the value of the coin involved? >>
That was my question when I first read this thread too. As another has said: this thread defies logic.
<< <i>Of course, I would not be so inclined to make nefarious use of my little contraband treasure
I have in my collection an NGC "clamshell." You can literally open it up, replace the coin, and snap it back shut.
Similarly, that could also be used for "nefarious" purposes.
<< <i>I'm not trying to stir any pots. I just don't like seeing a distracting bean on some of my newer slabs. These are on some of my core collection, not the flipper material. It bugs me to have a beanie on 4 of my rattlers.
What will eat the glue but not damage the slab ?
Not looking for any political commentary on CAC, Thank you very much. >>
Send it back to PCGS for a regrade and you ought to get a Plus. Besides those rattlers are way less than airtight.
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<< <i>Why does the (physical) sticker even matter since the slab number is in the CAC database?
Is that true?...If I had a slab that used to have a sticker, but not now, can I send it to CAC to get it automatically restickered?
(provided it shows up on their database) >>
Yes. I think they probably keep a photograph of each coin they sticker also. That way if you've resubmitted the coin and it has a different cert. you can have it re-stickered.
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<< <i>Why does the (physical) sticker even matter since the slab number is in the CAC database?
Is that true?...If I had a slab that used to have a sticker, but not now, can I send it to CAC to get it automatically restickered?
(provided it shows up on their database) >>
Yes. I think they probably keep a photograph of each coin they sticker also. That way if you've resubmitted the coin and it has a different cert. you can have it re-stickered. >>
I would guess that isn't true. A coin reholdered with a different cert number in the same or other TPG slab would likely get to be rebeaned on its own merits and not a photo.
If fake slabs can have correct serial numbers in a database, fake "green beans" can also be in a database.
The key to protecting yourself is buying through a reliable source. The PCGS and NGC authorized dealer base, major coin auctioneers like Heritage, Bowers-Stacks-Whatever, Teletrade. Even eBay is OK if you know the seller's reputation.
<< <i>Why does the (physical) sticker even matter since the slab number is in the CAC database?
Who wants to look up all the slabs in the world to see which ones got CAC stickered?
<< <i>Are the gold beans easier to remove than the green bean?
Don't know.. Would you want to remove it?
No.