Any help on this 1811 Half Cent attribution?

BlindedByEgo

I'd appreciate whatever help can be offered. Pardon the smallish photos.

RTS

I guess Cohen 2 ...looks like close date rather than the Cohen 1 wide date...but better wait until an expert chimes in.

BlindedByEgo

I was curious about the cud above the ES in STATES.

joecopper

Cohen 2 as it is a close date - the strike characterictics appear constent even allowing for the wear.
On Cohen 1, the 1 & 8 are quite distant by comparison.

BlindedByEgo

<< <i>Cohen 2 as it is a close date - the strike characterictics appear constent even allowing for the wear.
On Cohen 1, the 1 & 8 are quite distant by comparison. >>



Thanks Joe, RTS... Anything on the reverse cud?

RTS

Thanks Joe, RTS... Anything on the reverse cud?

I am light-years from knowing much about half-cents but I couldn't find a 1811 C2 with that reverse cud in the few catalogs and reference books I have
that feature half-cents.

joecopper

Regarding the CUD
I am not sure that it is a cud - most go into the rim more. Is it a photo issue?
Anyone else have a thought?

MikeInFL

<< <i>Regarding the CUD
I am not sure that it is a cud - most go into the rim more. Is it a photo issue?
Anyone else have a thought? >>



From someone not familiar with the series, a rolled over and worn rim bruise that appears like a cud is my first reaction.

BillJones

Yes it is an 1811 C-2, which is the more common of the two 1811 varieties. This date usually comes porous like the one shown here. It’s the smooth ones that grab the advanced collectors’ attention. For once the claim “stuck on a porous planchet” has some merit with this date. The mint director at this time, I believe it was Robert Paterson, hated half cents and didn’t want to issue them. He took every half cent planchet in the mint and had them struck into the coins, and some them were the bottom of barrel porous stuff. After that the mint won’t strike another half cent until 1825.

This variety is almost always weak on the left side of the reverse. I don’t see anything in the references I have about a cud at “ES” in the reverse. I’d say that it is probably the result of rim bump.